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9/12/13 8:24 PM
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Brabatross - Mendes KO round 1. Not really sure how it plays out any other way... Phone Post 3.0

So you think chad 145er, would ko a guy that normally fights at ww and has never even been dropped by a punch. Thats a solid prediction.
9/12/13 9:33 PM
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1a1 - Not to get off topic, but that clip has lead some ill informed fans to go so far as to say "if Aldo had not held the fence Mendes would have kept him down and grind out a win"

Considering two seconds later Chad had him in the exact same position and Aldo popped back up I am not sure what you are trying to reference in that clip.

No one is arguing Mendes isnt a fantastic wrestler but you really can not coompare him to GSP at this point. When Mendes takes down other elite wrestlers with ease then we can talk. Up to this point it is not based on evidence.
See people are white knighting the cheating.

You don't know he'd pop right back up just because on another take down he did.

Regardless.

He's taken down or koed everyone he's fought. Phone Post
Frankie Edgar couldn't keep Aldo down and this is a guy whose outwrestled the likes of Benson, BJ Penn, Maynard. No way Mendes is a better wrestler then Edgar in mma Phone Post 3.0
I think Mendes would put him on his ass.

The best wrestler you mentioned was gray who didn't nearly as far in the ncaa tournament as Chad and his style isn't as good for mma Imo.

Benson was a naia wrestler. While different ball game but Benson showed so much through his will and technique which took him to the next level Phone Post
Who cares about their accomplishments in college? I'm talking mma wrestling and Frankie is like the only guy that took down Maynard and the only guy to outwrestle BJ Penn at LW since Jens Pulver. He also outwrestled Benson and remember, all of
These guys are much bigger then Chad. Btw, Maynard would easily beat Chad in a wrestling match since he's much bigger then him. If much bigger stronger guys like Maynard, Penn, Benson, Sherk, struggle in taking Edgar down, don't expect a smaller Mendes to. Phone Post 3.0
They aren't 'much bigger' the only lw you have mentioned that could out wrestle him is Maynard. I'm mma Mendes has shown some if the best wrestling ever. He's never been taken down. Ever. He's taken down everyone he's ever fought or koed them Before he had to. Mma and college wrestling is different but Chad has amazing mma wrestling Phone Post
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caseharts - Edgar has experience sure but I think Mendes is way faster. Phone Post
And Mendes is about 10 times a better athlete than Edgar! No one has even gotten close to taking him down in god knows how long! Man people are stupid! Phone Post 3.0
Its pretty obvious Chad is a next level athlete. With Duane as his striking coach and the monsters at team am he's going to be a legend one day. There's something crazy about his athleticism Jones or Anderson don't have its crazy but people don't appreciate it. Phone Post
Exactly man! Phone Post 3.0
Obviously no one has come close to taking Mendes down, dude hasn't fought any elite wrestlers. Guida is the best wrestler he's fought and not to discredit Guida because he's an exceptional mma wrestler but he's not better then the grapplers Edgar has fought. Benson, Penn, Maynard, Sherk, are all bigger and better grapplers then Guida and Edgar outwrestled all of them despite being so much smaller. Mendes is quicker, more explosive, and more athletic them Edgar, but his wrestling hasn't been tested yet. Phone Post 3.0
Mendes is the only white wrestler in that weight besides what or maybe Elkins. He dominated Elkins and guida the only guys out side of what who can take him down. Phone Post
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Elite not white.

And where did you get the idea than Bendo is a better mma wrestler than Mendes ¿ his size?
Is that all you base this on? Size? Phone Post
9/12/13 9:53 PM
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1a1 - Not to get off topic, but that clip has lead some ill informed fans to go so far as to say "if Aldo had not held the fence Mendes would have kept him down and grind out a win"

Considering two seconds later Chad had him in the exact same position and Aldo popped back up I am not sure what you are trying to reference in that clip.

No one is arguing Mendes isnt a fantastic wrestler but you really can not coompare him to GSP at this point. When Mendes takes down other elite wrestlers with ease then we can talk. Up to this point it is not based on evidence.
See people are white knighting the cheating.

You don't know he'd pop right back up just because on another take down he did.

Regardless.

He's taken down or koed everyone he's fought. Phone Post
Frankie Edgar couldn't keep Aldo down and this is a guy whose outwrestled the likes of Benson, BJ Penn, Maynard. No way Mendes is a better wrestler then Edgar in mma Phone Post 3.0
I think Mendes would put him on his ass.

The best wrestler you mentioned was gray who didn't nearly as far in the ncaa tournament as Chad and his style isn't as good for mma Imo.

Benson was a naia wrestler. While different ball game but Benson showed so much through his will and technique which took him to the next level Phone Post
Who cares about their accomplishments in college? I'm talking mma wrestling and Frankie is like the only guy that took down Maynard and the only guy to outwrestle BJ Penn at LW since Jens Pulver. He also outwrestled Benson and remember, all of
These guys are much bigger then Chad. Btw, Maynard would easily beat Chad in a wrestling match since he's much bigger then him. If much bigger stronger guys like Maynard, Penn, Benson, Sherk, struggle in taking Edgar down, don't expect a smaller Mendes to. Phone Post 3.0
They aren't 'much bigger' the only lw you have mentioned that could out wrestle him is Maynard. I'm mma Mendes has shown some if the best wrestling ever. He's never been taken down. Ever. He's taken down everyone he's ever fought or koed them Before he had to. Mma and college wrestling is different but Chad has amazing mma wrestling Phone Post
Actually Chad is a lot smaller then Benson who can easily make 170and Maynard who walks around at 200. BJ Penn gave Jon Fitch all he could handle in the wrestling department for 2 rounds and although Chad is much more accomplished then Fitch in wrestling, if the 2 were to fight, Fitch would use his size to drag him to
The ground. Penn took down guys like Rory, Fitch, even fucking Machida so if Penn could get Chad up against the
Cage, he could defintely land a trip and take him down. As for Edgar I see them canceling each others wrestling out but Frankie I'd say is bigger could probably keep Chad down longer then Chad could keep him down. But then again you never
Know Phone Post 3.0
You think Fitch can get Chad Down?

Okay il just leave that alone.

Here's Mendes vs aldo

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caseharts - Mendes handles him. He's the best wrestler be would have fought ever. People keep saying he hasn't beaten the top guys at fw on this Current run... Because he ran through them in his previous run. Phone Post
Are you kidding? Mendes has better wresting then Hughes and gap huh? You've lost your damn mind Phone Post 3.0
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And where did you get the idea than Bendo is a better mma wrestler than Mendes ¿ his size?
Is that all you base this on? Size? Phone Post
Didn't say better mma wrestler, in terms of skill yes mendes but if they were to fight, Benson could outwrestle Mendes simple with size and strength. There's weight classes for a reason. Frankie has already shown he can outwrestle bigger wrestlers then him. Chad hasn't fought any elite wrestlers yet besides Guida who like I said is no where on Edgars level Phone Post 3.0
Frankie has shown that against one guy Maynard yes Mendes has not shown it to you but it's pretty obvious he can. Bendo would not overpower Mendes I don't even think Maynard could over power him. Nor Fitch.

There are weight classes but Mendes could go up and be a top 10 lw. Phone Post
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*gsp not "gap" Phone Post 3.0
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caseharts - Mendes handles him. He's the best wrestler be would have fought ever. People keep saying he hasn't beaten the top guys at fw on this Current run... Because he ran through them in his previous run. Phone Post
Are you kidding? Mendes has better wresting then Hughes and gap huh? You've lost your damn mind Phone Post 3.0
Where would you get the idea hughes is a better wrestler? He's bigger so he's better? Mendes would out wrestle him. Phone Post
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Matt hughes is also a small ww by today's comparison. Mendes accomplished a lot more in wrestling than hughes ever did. Hughes is a legend but that doesn't make him better. Just like how Imo a lot of decent black Belts in mma are way better than Royce. Phone Post
9/13/13 2:00 AM
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9/13/13 2:08 AM
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It seems like people forget that BJ fought the best in the world. He has some recent losses but look at who those losses are to. Rory would have fought for a title by now if GSP wasn't holding the belt...Nick Diaz, Draw with Fitch...not to mention the size difference he had to deal with and none of those guys could put away BJ. He has still never been KO'd or submitted while fighting guys like Machida, GSP, Diaz, Rory...No way Mendes finishes Penn. BJ by KO or Sub, or Mendes by decision. Phone Post 3.0
9/16/13 12:46 AM
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And where did you get the idea than Bendo is a better mma wrestler than Mendes ¿ his size?
Is that all you base this on? Size? Phone Post
Didn't say better mma wrestler, in terms of skill yes mendes but if they were to fight, Benson could outwrestle Mendes simple with size and strength. There's weight classes for a reason. Frankie has already shown he can outwrestle bigger wrestlers then him. Chad hasn't fought any elite wrestlers yet besides Guida who like I said is no where on Edgars level Phone Post 3.0
Frankie has shown that against one guy Maynard yes Mendes has not shown it to you but it's pretty obvious he can. Bendo would not overpower Mendes I don't even think Maynard could over power him. Nor Fitch.

There are weight classes but Mendes could go up and be a top 10 lw. Phone Post
Maynard and Jon Fitch both walk around 200, that's like 2 alpha males. Phone Post 3.0
Chad has stated he gets over 170. You don't know what you're talking about. Phone Post
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It would end with a career ending KO at the hands of Mendes and half the BJ nuthugging fanbase suiciding themselves.

9/16/13 7:17 AM
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And where did you get the idea than Bendo is a better mma wrestler than Mendes ¿ his size?
Is that all you base this on? Size? Phone Post
Didn't say better mma wrestler, in terms of skill yes mendes but if they were to fight, Benson could outwrestle Mendes simple with size and strength. There's weight classes for a reason. Frankie has already shown he can outwrestle bigger wrestlers then him. Chad hasn't fought any elite wrestlers yet besides Guida who like I said is no where on Edgars level Phone Post 3.0
Frankie has shown that against one guy Maynard yes Mendes has not shown it to you but it's pretty obvious he can. Bendo would not overpower Mendes I don't even think Maynard could over power him. Nor Fitch.

There are weight classes but Mendes could go up and be a top 10 lw. Phone Post
Maynard and Jon Fitch both walk around 200, that's like 2 alpha males. Phone Post 3.0
Chad has stated he gets over 170. You don't know what you're talking about. Phone Post
Your way to high on Mendes.

That high will come crashing down when Bj knocks him out. Phone Post

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