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Or is that just an oversight that Dana didn't say it? Phone Post 3.0
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Nope, they just said it.
7/6/14 10:53 PM
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7/6/14 10:54 PM
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Doesn't make sense really... That's a lot of $8,000 fights. Phone Post 3.0
7/6/14 11:03 PM
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jasonhightower - Doesn't make sense really... That's a lot of $8,000 fights. Phone Post 3.0
Lol Phone Post 3.0
7/6/14 11:55 PM
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jasonhightower - Doesn't make sense really... That's a lot of $8,000 fights. Phone Post 3.0

It's funny that people on here believe that. No TUF winner makes just $8,000 even if they lose there first fight
7/6/14 11:58 PM
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jasonhightower - Doesn't make sense really... That's a lot of $8,000 fights. Phone Post 3.0

It's funny that people on here believe that. No TUF winner makes just $8,000 even if they lose there first fight
People don't like facts, they just like to bitch behind a keyboard Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 12:26 AM
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jasonhightower - Doesn't make sense really... That's a lot of $8,000 fights. Phone Post 3.0

It's funny that people on here believe that. No TUF winner makes just $8,000 even if they lose there first fight
People don't like facts, they just like to bitch behind a keyboard Phone Post 3.0
I didn't post this as a joke. Do TUF winners actually get paid more than the entry level UFC signees on average? Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 12:29 AM
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It's a 3 fight 120,000 dollar contract so divide that by 3 to get ur per fight. Also no win bonuses but you can get of the night bonuses. Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 12:32 AM
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It's Six figures. They just forget to mention the decimal point in the amount. $1,000.00
7/7/14 12:47 AM
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deadlysyn - It's a 3 fight 120,000 dollar contract so divide that by 3 to get ur per fight. Also no win bonuses but you can get of the night bonuses. Phone Post 3.0

Ummm, no. Unless it just changed recently. Colton SMith and Gastelum, were paid $15K to show for their fights after winning TUF. So basically, if you win and are lucky enough to fight 3X in the first year, you are guaranteed $45K. Take away 20% to management/trainers and 25% to taxes, these guys are guaranteed to make around $25K/year. If they win all their fights, which is rare, they may make around $50K/year. So realistically, this amazing "6 figure contract" takes them up to 3 years to earn.

Colton Smith lost all 3 fights and is probably getting cut. So his "6 figure contract" earned him about $25K. It essentially means nothing and just sounds fancy. It's like telling a teacher they just signed a million dollar teaching contract, neglecting to mention that they will need to teach 30 years to earn it.
7/7/14 1:13 AM
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boxing wiz - It's Six figures. They just forget to mention the decimal point in the amount. $10,000.00
Lol $1,000.00 Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 1:25 AM
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So if they get a guaranteed $15,000, that means 6.67 fights. I don't know if the UFC is comfortable paying an unproven fighter that much, for 6 fights or so, in today's environment based on their pay structure.

Just trying to look at this realistically. Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 1:43 AM
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deadlysyn - It's a 3 fight 120,000 dollar contract so divide that by 3 to get ur per fight. Also no win bonuses but you can get of the night bonuses. Phone Post 3.0

Ummm, no. Unless it just changed recently. Colton SMith and Gastelum, were paid $15K to show for their fights after winning TUF. So basically, if you win and are lucky enough to fight 3X in the first year, you are guaranteed $45K. Take away 20% to management/trainers and 25% to taxes, these guys are guaranteed to make around $25K/year. If they win all their fights, which is rare, they may make around $50K/year. So realistically, this amazing "6 figure contract" takes them up to 3 years to earn.

Colton Smith lost all 3 fights and is probably getting cut. So his "6 figure contract" earned him about $25K. It essentially means nothing and just sounds fancy. It's like telling a teacher they just signed a million dollar teaching contract, neglecting to mention that they will need to teach 30 years to earn it.
Your insider information and knowledge is strange. You must work for zuffa right? Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 1:48 AM
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deadlysyn - It's a 3 fight 120,000 dollar contract so divide that by 3 to get ur per fight. Also no win bonuses but you can get of the night bonuses. Phone Post 3.0

Ummm, no. Unless it just changed recently. Colton SMith and Gastelum, were paid $15K to show for their fights after winning TUF. So basically, if you win and are lucky enough to fight 3X in the first year, you are guaranteed $45K. Take away 20% to management/trainers and 25% to taxes, these guys are guaranteed to make around $25K/year. If they win all their fights, which is rare, they may make around $50K/year. So realistically, this amazing "6 figure contract" takes them up to 3 years to earn.

Colton Smith lost all 3 fights and is probably getting cut. So his "6 figure contract" earned him about $25K. It essentially means nothing and just sounds fancy. It's like telling a teacher they just signed a million dollar teaching contract, neglecting to mention that they will need to teach 30 years to earn it.
Your insider information and knowledge is strange. You must work for zuffa right? Phone Post 3.0

Nope, but I've had several friends fight for them, understand how contracts work, and have seen the contracts. NSAC releases fighter salaries. So no, no employer information through Zuffa, but I can read. Can you?
7/7/14 2:09 AM
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deadlysyn - It's a 3 fight 120,000 dollar contract so divide that by 3 to get ur per fight. Also no win bonuses but you can get of the night bonuses. Phone Post 3.0

Ummm, no. Unless it just changed recently. Colton SMith and Gastelum, were paid $15K to show for their fights after winning TUF. So basically, if you win and are lucky enough to fight 3X in the first year, you are guaranteed $45K. Take away 20% to management/trainers and 25% to taxes, these guys are guaranteed to make around $25K/year. If they win all their fights, which is rare, they may make around $50K/year. So realistically, this amazing "6 figure contract" takes them up to 3 years to earn.

Colton Smith lost all 3 fights and is probably getting cut. So his "6 figure contract" earned him about $25K. It essentially means nothing and just sounds fancy. It's like telling a teacher they just signed a million dollar teaching contract, neglecting to mention that they will need to teach 30 years to earn it.


Devaluing a contract by counting taxes and management/trainer fees is pretty misleading.

Compare 15K to show with what they were making before TUF and you wil see it doesn't "essentially mean nothing". 

It's not big time money, but it's a good pay bump and major exposure that benefits a fighter for the rest of his career, even if he does get cut from the UFC.

7/7/14 5:02 AM
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deadlysyn - It's a 3 fight 120,000 dollar contract so divide that by 3 to get ur per fight. Also no win bonuses but you can get of the night bonuses. Phone Post 3.0

Ummm, no. Unless it just changed recently. Colton SMith and Gastelum, were paid $15K to show for their fights after winning TUF. So basically, if you win and are lucky enough to fight 3X in the first year, you are guaranteed $45K. Take away 20% to management/trainers and 25% to taxes, these guys are guaranteed to make around $25K/year. If they win all their fights, which is rare, they may make around $50K/year. So realistically, this amazing "6 figure contract" takes them up to 3 years to earn.

Colton Smith lost all 3 fights and is probably getting cut. So his "6 figure contract" earned him about $25K. It essentially means nothing and just sounds fancy. It's like telling a teacher they just signed a million dollar teaching contract, neglecting to mention that they will need to teach 30 years to earn it.
Your insider information and knowledge is strange. You must work for zuffa right? Phone Post 3.0

Nope, but I've had several friends fight for them, understand how contracts work, and have seen the contracts. NSAC releases fighter salaries. So no, no employer information through Zuffa, but I can read. Can you?
What fighters, what contracts. Do you always just make stuff up to avoid admitting you have zero knowledge about what they are making. Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 5:43 AM
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Now Dana just point at them and laughs and says, "where else you gonna go, Bellator?"
7/7/14 9:28 AM
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deadlysyn - It's a 3 fight 120,000 dollar contract so divide that by 3 to get ur per fight. Also no win bonuses but you can get of the night bonuses. Phone Post 3.0

Ummm, no. Unless it just changed recently. Colton SMith and Gastelum, were paid $15K to show for their fights after winning TUF. So basically, if you win and are lucky enough to fight 3X in the first year, you are guaranteed $45K. Take away 20% to management/trainers and 25% to taxes, these guys are guaranteed to make around $25K/year. If they win all their fights, which is rare, they may make around $50K/year. So realistically, this amazing "6 figure contract" takes them up to 3 years to earn.

Colton Smith lost all 3 fights and is probably getting cut. So his "6 figure contract" earned him about $25K. It essentially means nothing and just sounds fancy. It's like telling a teacher they just signed a million dollar teaching contract, neglecting to mention that they will need to teach 30 years to earn it.

Though I think the TUF contracts are longer than just that first year, I'm pretty sure after your first 3 fights, as long as you're winning, your contract automatically gets bumped up. Michael Chiesa went 2-1 his first three fights after winning, made 15/15 each, but in his next fight after that he made 20/20. So you don't need to win every fight to get paid more, I think these guys make out alright.

Kelvin Gastelum just won his first 3 fights after winning TUF, so he made 90k this year, sure you have taxes and all that, but he also has sponsors and such, so I'm sure he did okay. And he'll definitely be on a bigger contract now, so this year he could do quite well for himself.

7/7/14 7:35 PM
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deadlysyn - It's a 3 fight 120,000 dollar contract so divide that by 3 to get ur per fight. Also no win bonuses but you can get of the night bonuses. Phone Post 3.0

Ummm, no. Unless it just changed recently. Colton SMith and Gastelum, were paid $15K to show for their fights after winning TUF. So basically, if you win and are lucky enough to fight 3X in the first year, you are guaranteed $45K. Take away 20% to management/trainers and 25% to taxes, these guys are guaranteed to make around $25K/year. If they win all their fights, which is rare, they may make around $50K/year. So realistically, this amazing "6 figure contract" takes them up to 3 years to earn.

Colton Smith lost all 3 fights and is probably getting cut. So his "6 figure contract" earned him about $25K. It essentially means nothing and just sounds fancy. It's like telling a teacher they just signed a million dollar teaching contract, neglecting to mention that they will need to teach 30 years to earn it.

Colton Smith is the only TUF winner to lose his first 3. Terrible example.
7/7/14 7:39 PM
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Everyone in America who works legitimately has to pay taxes. Part of life. So can we please stop saying that like it's only a UFC fighter thing. If your salary is $100,000, it should be understood that you don't bring that home.
7/7/14 10:29 PM
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deadlysyn - It's a 3 fight 120,000 dollar contract so divide that by 3 to get ur per fight. Also no win bonuses but you can get of the night bonuses. Phone Post 3.0

Ummm, no. Unless it just changed recently. Colton SMith and Gastelum, were paid $15K to show for their fights after winning TUF. So basically, if you win and are lucky enough to fight 3X in the first year, you are guaranteed $45K. Take away 20% to management/trainers and 25% to taxes, these guys are guaranteed to make around $25K/year. If they win all their fights, which is rare, they may make around $50K/year. So realistically, this amazing "6 figure contract" takes them up to 3 years to earn.

Colton Smith lost all 3 fights and is probably getting cut. So his "6 figure contract" earned him about $25K. It essentially means nothing and just sounds fancy. It's like telling a teacher they just signed a million dollar teaching contract, neglecting to mention that they will need to teach 30 years to earn it.

Colton Smith is the only TUF winner to lose his first 3. Terrible example.

So, you admit it is not a "6 figure contract?" If it's possible for a fighter to get paid only $45K before he's cut, it's not really 6 figures, is it?

Again, it's like telling a 22 year old math teacher she just signed a million dollar contract to teach 7th grade. If she fucks up, she can be fired at any time, but if she teaches there for 30 years, she'll make a million dollars.

Voila! Million dollar contract! The fact the UFC still tricks you guys into believing it's a "6 figure contact" is funny.
7/7/14 10:42 PM
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I have always laughed at how Dana's announces that, and the crowd goes wild. Like they are set for life.

I have always thought it was very misleading. Just be honest and say what it is. You won a contract to fight in the UFC.

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