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5/31/07 1:12 AM
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CDarwin
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"Im suprised nobody has risen up to hype up a Nile Croc on land?" Maybe everyone has seen the Tiger humiliates and kills croc clip. (I totally lost respect for crocs as land fighter after that.)
5/31/07 1:15 AM
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"Maybe everyone has seen the Tiger humiliates and kills croc clip. (I totally lost respect for crocs as land fighter after that.)" the tiger made it look easy. It wasn't just one clip there were several. Tiger is such a versatile killer. I know the Nile Croc is bigger, but that would just make it easier for the tiger because naturally it will be slower.
5/31/07 12:16 PM
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In fairness, that croc shown in the video is fucky small. The tiger would have very little room for error against a Nile Croc or large Saltwater Croc. In shallow water (and of course deep) the tiger would get fucked up
5/31/07 12:40 PM
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Hippos can kill crocs at will. Water, land, space, wherever.
5/31/07 12:45 PM
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That is true
5/31/07 12:52 PM
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The man-eating tigers in india are only able to do so because they are almost impossible to hunt through their native mangrove swamps.  Because of this they never developed an instinctive fear of humans, and learned instead that the local tribsmen do not retaliate after an attack.

They are not "strongest/most dangerous cats" , at least no more than any other tiger, and they did not "choose to live in close proximity to humans". lol

5/31/07 12:58 PM
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4. a brown bear with a shark tied to his back

 

ROFL

5/31/07 1:56 PM
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"Hippos can kill crocs at will. Water, land, space, wherever." Discovery just had a great special about the battles between hippos and crocs that take place in space.
5/31/07 3:59 PM
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-"They are not "strongest/most dangerous cats" , at least no more than any other tiger, and they did not "choose to live in close proximity to humans". lol" Clearly I was using two examples to support an argument and not providing an exhaustive list. Since you apparently have such a list at your disposal, please provide for me a list of some more dangerous cats. ...how do you know that they did not choose to live in proximity to humans. Do they not have the ability to choose? "One famous tigress known as Champawat killed some 200 men and women before being driven out of Nepal. She moved to another location, this time in India, and continued to kill bringing her total up to 436 before she was tracked down and killed in 1937." Source http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/maneating5.html Clearly after being driven out of Nepal the tiger CHOSE where it moved. .... and how do you explain the lack of mangroves in the Tsavo???
5/31/07 4:05 PM
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"Later examination of the tigress showed the upper and lower canine teeth on the right side of her mouth were broken -- the upper one in half, the lower one right down to the bone. This permanent injury, Corbett claimed, "had prevented her from killing her natural prey, and had been the cause of her becoming a man-eater."

It was a sick tiger, bro. Thats why it attacked humans. There are a lot of cases of sick or unhealthy animals attacking humans. It not because they are brave and strong, lol.

That quote is from the website you just provided me.

5/31/07 4:08 PM
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Here is another quote. It is from my first response to you.

"no more than any other tiger"

I was not talking about listing what cats stronger than others.

5/31/07 4:12 PM
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There are many cases of man eaters out there, India in particular, but most predators avoid humans. If they did not, the death toll would be many, many times greater. Well maybe not so much today, because man continues to push them to extinction
5/31/07 5:21 PM
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A tiger has how many teeth? .. and you believe his claims that because of one missing and one partially broken tooth the tiger was unable to kill its natural prey despite it's size, strength, claws and remaining teeth? No one ever discredits the abilities of a shark just because of a few broken or missing teeth. Notice how the author qualified the statement by using the word "claimed". You've got to read these articles critically. People will post just about anything on the interweb. In any case he couldn't have been too old or weak, he killed over 400 people, and I'm sure some of them had had at least as much MMA training as that old Isreali dude who pinned the leopard. How many Nile crocodiles or hippos can claim to be verifiable 400+ maneaters? Now hypothetically speaking, how many people do you think it would have killed if it had a shark strapped to its back to make up for the lost teeth.
5/31/07 5:43 PM
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" A tiger has how many teeth? .. and you believe his claims that because of one missing and one partially broken tooth the tiger was unable to kill its natural prey despite it's size, strength, claws and remaining teeth? No one ever discredits the abilities of a shark just because of a few broken or missing teeth." This is true. THe tiger's front canines are INDISPENDSABLE for it's survival. The tiger is a great killer but for every 10-15 attempts it only succeeds in one kill. Without the front canines the tiger is gonna starve. Anybody who knows about tigers understands this fact.
5/31/07 6:30 PM
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5/31/07 6:43 PM
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lol @ you questioning the very source you posted as proof of your own argument earlier
5/31/07 8:04 PM
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"Notice how the author qualified the statement by using the word "claimed". You've got to read these articles critically. People will post just about anything on the interweb." As I pointed out even the author of the source cited qualified the "opinion" of the source. The source was never cited as proof of anything, I used it merely as a convenient source supporting the argument that the tiger in question did voluntarily move to a location with humans. As far as your supposition that a missing canine would cause a tiger to starve, apparently this tiger didn't read evilyoshidas post. "For a few moments I even overcame my extreme fear of heights to peer down from the edge of the cliff. What we saw was a fully grown tiger, slowly making its way across a rocky dry riverbed. One of the naturalists looking through his binoculars identified it as Broken Tooth, from a distinctive diamond shape marking on its body. This was one of the resident male tigers, about five years old. As his name suggests he is missing one of his canines although by all accounts this does not seem to have affected his hunting abilities." Source - http://www.travellersimpressions.com/process/storypage.php?storycode=as2031 obviously not proof, but nonetheless an account from an unbiased source which is more than can be said for the support for evilyoshida's statement.
5/31/07 8:09 PM
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Man-eaters are able-bodied The authors dispel the centuries-old yarn, championed by noted tiger slayer Jim Corbett, that man-eaters are aged or have damaged teeth, limiting them to a diet of slow-footed humans. Their review shows that problem lions, including man-eaters, are typically sub-adult or prime-ages males without documented injury. In fact the researchers have even used forensic techniques to analyze the last meals of the man-eaters. They discovered hairs from the prey of the lions, still embedded in their broken teeth 100 years later. The Tsavo lions are shown to have eaten 'normal' prey throughout their careers. Although the study is ongoing, no human hairs have been recovered amid the hundreds of hairs reviewed to date. While broken limbs are certainly debilitating and may lead to man-eating, broken canine teeth do not appear to have the same consequences. Source: http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/man-eating_lions_get_a_second_look Study author: Bruce Patterson, MacArthur Curator of Mammals, began studying the Tsavo lions in 1997, with the goal of understanding their distinctive appearance, their evolution and ecology, and their associated behaviors.
6/1/07 10:26 AM
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In response to EY's above pic, don't those breeders or zoologists know Tigons are totally lame and smell like poo?
6/2/07 5:56 AM
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A small dog that doesn't know how big it isn't is pretty tough.
6/2/07 2:18 PM
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geez this thread is still goin on damn?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6/15/07 9:42 AM
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"some of the animals are great at defense or being hard to kill but hardly great at offense. to be badass imo.. you need to be both." True. This is why I don't much stock in rhinos, their fighting tactics suck, watch this vid. <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/HsKRp7JB_5Q"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param></object>
6/15/07 9:45 AM
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LOL @ Giraffe
6/16/07 2:25 PM
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Yoshida, Rhinos can't see for shit in the dark, whereas Hyenas can see very, very well
6/16/07 3:18 PM
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You see that EY!?

You think a tiger would be that noble and help out someone in need?

Give that lion the nobel prize!


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