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2/14/08 12:14 PM
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matt murdock
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I know this thread has been posted before, but man is this going to be lame. I truely to believe Obama would be able to bring about some change, sadly it's all change that I think is bad for America (higher taxes, more welfare, this tax to the UN garbage, gun control, universal healthcare, more economic regulation, etc). McCain offers nothing new. He's Bush again. Shit, I'd rather have bible thumping Huckabee in there with his fair tax than more of the same McCain. Ugh, it's back to having to vote for the lesser of two evils. For the record, I was (am) a Paul supporter.
2/14/08 12:17 PM
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When was the last election where you were really excited about one of the two candidates?
2/14/08 12:19 PM
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"McCain offers nothing new. He's Bush again." Most people who are true Bush supporters would tell you that McCain is a democrat dressed up in republican clothing.
2/14/08 12:19 PM
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I'd like a McCain/Obama election.
2/14/08 12:23 PM
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matt murdock
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Bush is a democrat dressed up in republican clothing! Well, sort of. Bush lowered taxes, which is good, but expanded the government and spending so much it makes me sick. And his preemptive war idea is so bad yet McCain supports this doctrine. I was really excited about Paul in the primaries, too bad he couldn't muster much.
2/14/08 12:25 PM
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"gun control, universal healthcare"

i don't understand why these would be bad for any country.

2/14/08 12:27 PM
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I think Obama vs McCain is the suck because every manufacturing organization my company belongs to rates them as two of the worst senators for the industry.

I'm more concerned with the economy, my business, and taking care of my employees than shit like gun control and gay marriage.
2/14/08 12:34 PM
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matt murdock
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"gun control, universal healthcare" i don't understand why these would be bad for any country." In my opinion, they take away personal responisibility. There's the age old arguement that if you control guns only the cops and bad guys will have them. I think responsible and educated people should have access to firearms. Universal healthcare goes against my concept of what a 'right' is. No one has a 'right' to universal healthcare. Why I say that is, a right cannot obligate someone else to do something else. Universal Healthcare obligates me to pay for mine and other's healthcare and I have zero choice in this. It just goes against what I think me rights and obligations are.
2/14/08 12:41 PM
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"Most people who are true Bush supporters would tell you that McCain is a democrat dressed up in republican clothing." Bush has turned out to be a pretty "liberal" republican president.
2/14/08 12:55 PM
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Welcome to the Democracy Show...

2/14/08 1:05 PM
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McCain is not a benchmark Republican.  He is a conservative loathing moderate. He does not adhere to conservative standards, and he doesn't vote conservative either.

2/14/08 1:10 PM
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He has an 83% lifetime conservative voting record.
2/14/08 1:10 PM
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I look forward to voting for the liberal if this is the case.
2/14/08 1:11 PM
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FEEL THE LOVE (or the terrarists win)
2/14/08 1:16 PM
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lol @ McCain and his t-rex arms.
2/14/08 1:30 PM
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"Seems pretty harsh to me." It's a harsh world. We can't bankrupt the country trying to save everybody. If you are broke and alone when you get cancer, you probably made a lot of bad decisions to get yourself in that situation.
2/14/08 1:31 PM
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One payer system will certainly not hurt healthcare. I would prefer huckabee to McCain also. Don't tell mama, I'm voting for Obama.
2/14/08 1:32 PM
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" We can't bankrupt the country trying to save everybody."

I wish you'd have told Dubya this about 5 years ago
2/14/08 1:34 PM
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I would've if I had a direct line to him. Not that he would've listened.
2/14/08 1:42 PM
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If we get Universal Health Care, at the very least I want some poor fucker coming to mow my lawn once a week.
2/14/08 1:44 PM
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I just finished reading "The Audacity of Hope" and I believe Obama's heart's in the right place. That's more than I can say for the current administration. At the very least, an Obama presidency will bring about great changes to our foreign policy. Maybe a few countries would stop hating us.
2/14/08 1:48 PM
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN?  THEY WANT EVERYTHING FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   THE POOR DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR FREE HEALTHCARE!!!   THE ASSHOLES THAT HAD ENOUGH OF A UNFARE  "HEAD START" AT LIFE AND HAVE A JOB MUST PAY!!!!!!!!!!  DON'T YOU KNOW IT'S YOUR FAULT THEY DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING, INCLUDING YOUR BMW AND PLASMA.

  WHY WOULD YOU DESERVE ANYTHING WHEN THERE ARE THOSE WITHOUT?

2/14/08 1:49 PM
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PatK
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It is everyone's obligation to chip in and help each other on this matter.

it's also everyone's obligation to get a fucking job, or take care of themselves. How many do that?

Sorry, but I don't believe I'm obligated to chip in and help some complete fuckup fatass that has never taken care of himself from dying.
2/14/08 1:52 PM
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" It is everyone's obligation to chip in and help each other on this matter. it's also everyone's obligation to get a fucking job, or take care of themselves. How many do that?" How about both?
2/14/08 1:56 PM
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Well, Obama vs McCain sure as hell is better than Bush vs Kerry.

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