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3/20/08 1:19 AM
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Shiloh
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"UFC handles all the marketing for them basically without a commission." HBWAAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAH!!!!!!
3/20/08 1:37 AM
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Pavia, Ciscone, and Associates
Shiloh... lol
3/20/08 2:32 AM
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Seriously, I don't want to see Pav in the cage. His dreams would not come true.
3/20/08 3:35 AM
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TTT for TJ, step up Pav fight TJ!
3/20/08 3:47 AM
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step out Shannon and please don't come back
3/20/08 3:59 AM
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Pav hasnt responded to the TJ fight in his last 22529 posts. I counted every single one of them.
3/20/08 6:06 AM
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ufc does handle marketing for their big stars without a commission. they hook chuck, gsp, hughes, huerta, all up with PR. The major mediums do not trust pav and other small time mma agents yet unless you are working for an establish agency. That is why zuffa is so important because they have credibility that the major mediums and businesses can trust. they are the ones that arrange the SI shoots, tv spots, prime time interviews for their major stars. So in a way they are the agents of serve as the agents for the major stars. They don't charge a commission because both of them mutually benefit. So the big stars do not really need an agent because the promoters or ufc, for instance, will back them in that area. that is why pav is representing B level to C level fighters. You don't see any A level on the roster off mmaagents. Pav is serving the fighters that are not good enough, yet, to be backed by a major promotion. I do take back my statement back that fighters don't need agents because some fighters just don't know business. I just don't want fighters to over pay for something that they can do on their own. How hard is it to ask the owner of a company if they can get a sponsorship, not that hard because most of the businesses so far that are sponoring the fighters are small time and it is easy to get to the decision maker with out going through all these gatekeepers. I hope the pav and other agents and mma marketing firms are charging a fair commission based on how much business they really bring in. So if you are a big name fighter, and unless your agent is getting you in actual hollywood movies, SI print, major cable channel interviews you shouldn't be paying them no more than 5%
3/20/08 9:39 AM
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> ufc does handle marketing for their big stars without a commission. they hook chuck, gsp, hughes, huerta, all up with PR.

LOL.. you misunderstand how the world works, my little friend...

UFC handles marketing for itself, often using its fighters for such purpose.  The fighters have provisions in their contracts obligating them to do PR for the UFC.

> So in a way they are the agents of serve as the agents for the major stars.

LOL again... you really need to (i) get your hands on a UFC contract so you have a clue what you are talking about, and (ii) grow some business sense as to the ramifications that a relationship of the nature you describe would have on the UFC, in terms of its obligations to its fighters.   If your assertion was correct, most fighters under contract with UFC would probably be able to find a cause of action!  LOL

3/20/08 11:31 AM
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TTT for TJ vs Pav
3/20/08 11:37 AM
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Enson calling for this fight of epic proportions!!!
3/20/08 11:49 AM
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Tahiti Bo
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EPIC!
3/20/08 11:50 AM
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TAHITI: So ufc can't promote their fights and the org. by setting up their fighters with interviews on television and getting them to do photoshoots for SI and stuff of that nature. i wasn't saying that ufc is their agent they do the job of an agent in that they find opportunities for fighters to get the best exposure you may be right, i don't know enough about ufc. i do have a business sense though i am a very successful business man myself. possibly the richest on this board
3/20/08 11:52 AM
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"shannon if u ever talk bad about my manager n friend again, next time i see you im gonna slap ur king of the cage tatto right off ur nasty fucken body.... " Shannon was just owned.
3/20/08 12:02 PM
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Shannon finally realized there aren't any fighters left that he can beat so now he's going after their agents. CLASSIC
3/20/08 12:04 PM
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"i am a very successful business man myself. possibly the richest on this board" AMAZING! -jk
3/20/08 12:13 PM
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JK: i actually run a bunch of successful internet businesses if you know what i mean. Pron
3/20/08 1:41 PM
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The only problem is "the PAV" won't be able to check his myspace from inside the ring
3/20/08 1:42 PM
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pav do you need gammo-o bitch?
3/20/08 1:49 PM
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Tuck Tuck Tuck Tuck Tuck
3/20/08 2:13 PM
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Goose!
3/20/08 2:14 PM
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Tahiti Bo
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> TAHITI: So ufc can't promote their fights and the org. by setting up their fighters with interviews on television and getting them to do photoshoots for SI and stuff of that nature. i wasn't saying that ufc is their agent they do the job of an agent in that they find opportunities for fighters to get the best exposure

But these opportunities are about USING the fighter to promote UFC, not about promoting the fighter per se.  It is a different dynamic. You won't see UFC lining up movie deals for Couture, or ads (except maybe for Xyience!) that don't feature UFC exposure.  The fighter needs an agent to bring in those other opportunities.

> i do have a business sense though i am a very successful business man myself.

Perhaps I should have said business/legal sense. 

3/20/08 5:03 PM
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Bocephus,Candy Man,Lada,Pitt & Assc
lol at shannon a so called fighter calling out an agent and lol at Danablack being the richest guy on this board
3/20/08 5:16 PM
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Enson on board?  Holy Cow...come on PAV...dont' be a pussy! 

It's for the kids!  I'll put up your $5k as wel....win or lose I'll give $5k to charity......Let's do this!

3/20/08 5:17 PM
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danablack is wealthier than Dana White? Cindy
3/20/08 5:28 PM
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danablack lives in a trailer TJ, I thought he was already fighting dirty curdy

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