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3/20/08 8:47 PM
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Mike Sanders
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"He is a ronin." That means "unemployed" in Japanese, dude. So yeah, agreed. ;)
3/20/08 8:53 PM
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"Most people dont understand how addictive personalities work..." I do. The key is to attach the compulsive nature to a pursuit (like training) where the obsessiveness does not lead to self-destruction. It doesn't have to lead to the destruction of someone or something else, either. Playing blackjack or a housegame is just a losing proposition, period. The longer you sit, the surer you are to lose. Therefore, people with addictive personalities should not "gamble," period, unless it's a game like poker where, even if you are an addict, if you have greater skill than your opponents in the long run you will win. You can be addicted to "gambling" and win. You just have to pick a game where you actually have an edge, where the compulsive nature will lead to an advantage, not to one's stubbornly and self-destructively fighting a disadvantage.
3/20/08 8:57 PM
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He'll never find that peace he's looking for without accepting Christ.
3/20/08 9:55 PM
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"I do. The key is to attach the compulsive nature to a pursuit (like training) where the obsessiveness does not lead to self-destruction. It doesn't have to lead to the destruction of someone or something else, either." Correct. Some addicts can actually become addicted to sobriety. Personally I became addicted to running after I beat my LONG addiction to drugs and alcohol. I simply would not skip one day and started running crazy distances. Even when I developed a stress fracture from running on pavement all the time, I still had a hard time taking a break. I just have a hard time breaking any habit whether its positive or negative. You have to eliminate the options. I cut all my connections and couldnt score drugs right now if I wanted to. Thats the hardest thing to do when you are an addict. Most addicts just want to close the door halfway so the option is always there to go back to their addiction. You have to kick that motherfucker all the way closed so there is no going back.
3/20/08 9:59 PM
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Mike Sanders
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"Even when I developed a stress fracture from running on pavement all the time, I still had a hard time taking a break." Ain't no drug ever give me a stress fracture.
3/20/08 11:28 PM
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This guy really sucks at life.
3/20/08 11:33 PM
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Dan Christison
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Edited: 20-Mar-08
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I read Evan's post on his website because my wife asked my opinion of what Evan was saying. I don't know what the hell you guys are reading but here is a guy who isn't sitting around feeling sorry for what is going on his life. He is actually making fun of the situation he is in. He isn't in that situation because of what he has done recently but because of the choices he made in the past. The choices that everyone was coddling his balls about a few weeks back when he was inspiring so many people by not drinking after his loss. He had a loss, he took a few weeks off and spent a little of HIS money. I am sure after his loss he had to get out of his head for awhile. I didn't see anything in that post that many of the guys I know that fight hasn't done except make it public. You praise him one minute and then turn on him the next. I must be missing something in all of this. I went down to talk to Evan after his fight and I saw that man and what he was dealing with within. I have had my share of disappointing losses and seeing him that night brought tears to my eyes. I think that is what pisses me off about this more than anything. If he could go through all of that and not take a drink after all of those years of drinking he deserves to be able to be able to sit at a table and do something mindless for at least a week. You guys act like he stole your milk money and spent it or something. You do not know the whole story, you know what little Evan decided to share and you placed your judgment on just that small amount of information. I say if you don't like what he has to say, just don't read it and that should pretty much take care of the anger and disappointment on your end. I think the person who invests so much emotionally into someone they don't even know is the unstable one. Evan puts it out there, like it or not but most people don't. They live false lives, get worshipped like heroes and then the truth finally comes out and everyones so shocked by it. Stick your heads back in the sand, it's easier there.
3/20/08 11:38 PM
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mikey burnett
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Ive known Evan for a long time now, he is a great person....I wish the best for him
3/20/08 11:39 PM
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Edited: 20-Mar-08
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Dan, in all seriousness, what you said is not in any way incompatible with much of what (I think) you took offense to.
3/20/08 11:52 PM
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Dan Christison
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knoodler I am not offended. I am confused by the reaction this blog created. The guy had a huge loss, didn't people expect him to find a way to deal with it? Gambling isn't the most constructive way but it is a way to get away from what is going on and sometimes that is just what is needed. Evan does not have a gambling problem. He has lived in Vegas all of this time and this is the first time he has been to the casinos to gamble and he hasn't been drinking for how long? If he can get past all of the shit he has been through in the last two years and get back into that cage he is going to do what he needs to do to deal with this and he will get his shit together and get back in there again. Hey Mikey, hope you are doing well man.
3/21/08 12:14 AM
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tanner should have gone into a smaller org than the UFC he could have been a champ again in a strikerforce , eilte or icon id rather have seen tanner vs hose
3/21/08 12:21 AM
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Im reading that blog and I feel bad for him. Im also reading that blog and wondering how many close freinds he let down with his gambling binge, how many freinds helped him out with a place to stay, train at, or loaned him money that he burned. I also agree that he should of gone to some of the smaller orgs first and built himself up, shook off the ring dust, then got back to the ufc. If he doesnt get his shit together asap, and try that route... I dont see him living very long.
3/21/08 12:25 AM
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knoodler
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Edited: 21-Mar-08
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It's awesome that he didn't drink. Honestly, that is the first thing I thought of when he lost, "Fuck. I hope he doesn't drink." We all want to see the good guys win. Well, some don't. Some want to see them fail. But most of us want to see Tanner come shining through. He put himself out there publicly, on his blog, asking for people to join him, or to care. Whatever the backside of it, he did ask people to care. Some of us do, some do not. I like what Macedogg said on the other thread you started.
3/21/08 12:29 AM
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Dan Christison
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Mace is one cool bean.
3/21/08 12:41 AM
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he could have saved himself a lot of time and effort at the casino by just going to the roulette table and sticking all his money on red or black.
3/21/08 1:21 AM
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Tito recently told a story on I think Stern about Ricco doing the Roulette thing after he won one of the UFC fights. Said Ricco bet like 50,000 on red and won. Then he does it again and loses everything. Also said Ricco he owes him like 20,000.
3/21/08 1:29 AM
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"I find strength in a person that has had these types of issues, and is not afraid to show the world." Evan isn't being honest with himself, or with the world. If he was, he would have manned up and admitted that his choice was a relapse to addictive/short sighted thinking, and was a mistake. The reasoning he used in his blog was excuse making to convince himself he made some bold well thought out choice. He knows it plays well with certain people who either feel sorry for him or try and live vicariously the "bold risk taker" life style through him. He's manipulating them for money.
3/21/08 1:34 AM
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Such a shame, what a waste. :(
3/21/08 1:47 AM
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PR
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Tanner's like one of those drama chicks, who cant stand having a regular day with regular people. He WANTS to have a shitty life, so he can take pride in people's compliments when he writes about his "troubles".
3/21/08 1:51 AM
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i moved to vegas three years ago and ran up $60,000 of credit card debt in the first 15 months. i wake up every morning at 5 am and go to work driving a cab. i get off work at 5 pm (ten hour shifts, five days a week), and go to the gym. after that, i play poker for a couple of hours to supplement my income by a few hundred bucks a week. i cant afford to do anything but work, go to the gym , and play poker. with no help from anyone, i've paid off $27000 of the debt in the past year and a half. i dont have much sympathy for tanner cause its within his power to take control of his life and do the work that needs to be done.
3/21/08 1:51 AM
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Mule
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I just wonder if this isn't just a big troll. I could imagine a guy like Tanner playing a big fuck around game with MMA fans and the interwebs. Anybody know Evan personally that can verify this story as legit?
3/21/08 2:11 AM
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Well bright side, he did help the economy...
3/21/08 2:25 AM
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Also on the bright side, he shouldn't have to worry about making weight for his next fight...
3/21/08 2:29 AM
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andre
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PR said it best.
3/21/08 2:50 AM
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