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4/20/08 2:48 PM
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I'm buying a handgun this year. I'm going with 9mm just to save money on ammo. Anybody have experiance with these 2?

I shot a Glock 19 a few years ago and really liked it. I also have shot a USP in .45 and liked that. I figure a P2000 would be very similar.

I know I can't really go wrong with either. Just looking for opinions.
4/20/08 8:21 PM
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See if you have a range near you where you can try both guns out at the same time. See which one fits you best. A little fit test you can do: take your firing grip on the gun, pick out a target in a safe direction, close your eyes, and bring the gun up to the target. Open your eyes and look at your gun. You won't be on target, but you need to be able to see your front sights. Some people naturally bend their wrists up or down more than others, and the different grip angles of some firearms make a difference in your ability to deploy the gun quickly and comfortably. Both guns come from quality manufacturers with good records. I think you'd be well served by either. (Although I'm a glock fan myself)
4/22/08 12:38 PM
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Definitely the best advice is given above. In all honesty, you have a strong potential for buyer's remorse if you don't try them both out before you buy. By renting them, you'll be much more at ease with your selection.

Because price is a factor in selecting a 9mm, you should also look at the cost of spare parts and additional magazines. HK parts are generally significantly more expensive and harder to obtain.

I could go on about the differences between the two platforms but would probably sound like a Glock commercial. I don't own a Glock and my CCW is an HK (P7M8)... to be honest there are many times I'd rather just have a Glock or 1911 and be done with all the other platforms for good. Would make things much simpler.
4/26/08 10:26 AM
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 If you look at 2007 IDPA Championship Equipment Survey:

54 Competitors shot the Glock 34 (9mm)

30 shot the Glock 17 (9mm)

9 shot 1911A1 (9mm)

8 shot the XD (9mm) - - Hmmm seeing a trend here?

8 shot the Glock 35 (.40 S&W)

14 shot S&W 625 (45 ACP)

4/26/08 10:32 AM
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I would personally stay away from .45 caliber rounds.  It is just too expensive to shoot.  Really... I mean, I shoot a couple hundred rounds of Winchester Walmart FMJ ammo with my Glock19 and it's already $40 and that's 9MM!



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The benefits of a Glock is that is die hard reliable.  They are easy to take apart and very easy and cost effective to replace parts.  This Sunday as a matter of fact I am competing with my G19. 

 




 





 






 




 


 




 


 


 

4/26/08 10:36 AM
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Speaking of saving money on ammo... I recently got a .22 conversion kit for my Glock 17.  I figure after about 1,200 rounds it will have paid for itself.  The principles, technique all can be practiced at a much cheaper price.  It's a matter of going to the range and shooting .22 with your Glock 9mm frame for a reduced cost.  For example 500rounds of 9mm will cost you about $100 vs. $11 for .22.  So you shoot a bunch of .22 and work on technique, technique, trigger control etc.  And then end your range visit with some 9mm, but at the end of the day you got to shoot a lot!

4/28/08 2:53 PM
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my thread
4/30/08 12:19 AM
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no, my thread ttt :-)
5/7/08 1:17 PM
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.22 slide/barrel is a great idea for savings.

Additionally, there are a good amount of airsoft replicas for the G17/G19. The benefit with this is you can get very cheap practice in your backyard... training in presenting the weapon from concealment (fits in your carry holster), force on force with a friend representing a mobile threat, awkward shooting positions... stuff that you generally can't practice on a square range.

I correlate range shooting with bagwork which will help you sharpen your technique, while force on force is more like actual sparring that will fill in the gaps. wish i could get more of it.

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5/7/08 1:19 PM
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Also wanted to add that there are 1911 airsoft replicas and .22 conversion units as well. The former tend to be pretty pricey, but at least they are available. I don't think there are many, if any, for the P2000.
5/14/08 7:29 PM
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Went the Glock route.

I started the bullshit state background paperwork today.

Should have my pistol in a week or so.
5/20/08 11:40 AM
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Good shit.

What range do you go to?

I bought a Springfield XD, and absolutely love it.

I'm looking to pick up an AR this year before one of the communists wins the election and makes them illegal.
5/21/08 7:26 PM
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Don't have a range yet. We need to talk. An AR will be my next purchase.
5/22/08 3:13 PM
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There's one up by me, and one in Timonium.


I'm not sure which would be better for you, but we should definitely get together sometime.
5/27/08 2:50 PM
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 My only concern about HK is its parts availability.


 


Besides, I have tiny hands, I've yet to try P2000 with small grip insert though.

6/13/08 1:04 PM
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Don,Does your number still end in 3093? I'm on my way to get my deposit back. I'll buy the G19 from your guy on Rt 40.
7/26/08 2:10 PM
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fokket - 

 My only concern about HK is its parts availability.


 


Besides, I have tiny hands, I've yet to try P2000 with small grip insert though.



I've had no problems with finding parts on the various auction sites, fokket... As for hands, yeah, the P2000 and the new HK45 are your best choices.
12/15/08 5:20 PM
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2/5/09 2:53 AM
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BEEF & CHEESE - Don't have a range yet. We need to talk. An AR will be my next purchase.
We must be thinking alike buddy. I am also getting a new pistol and home defense setup.
  
3/2/09 7:02 AM
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9mm? what are you gay?
3/2/09 2:02 PM
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9mm is cheap to shoot and 2 of the +P will do the job nicely.

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