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Dream Pulled from Primetime TV
 
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Dream Pulled from Primetime TV
 
April 24, 2008
by Jordan Breen (jbreen@sherdog.com)

In a less-than-dreamy scenario, Fight Entertainment Group's Dream MMA brand has been ousted from primetime television on the Tokyo Broadcasting System.

The change comes after the debut edition of Dream garnered lackluster ratings in a make-or-break scenario for FEG and TBS.
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Bummer. Look like these guys won't go the distance.
4/24/08 5:32 PM
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 Don't they have three shows in the next six weeks?



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That is one fine looking belt though...
4/24/08 6:01 PM
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"Bummer. Look like these guys won't go the distance."

Yeah, lol, I'm sure you're all broken up about it!
4/24/08 6:04 PM
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Well it's not as if I care like I did when Pride went down, but I'm certainly not happy about it.
4/24/08 6:08 PM
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Nice belt. hopefully DREAMS will survive.
4/24/08 6:12 PM
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 They're not dead by any means though. They have a ton of cash, they're still on TV, just not primtetime, and they're on PPV still. Once they establish themselves, I'm sure they'll get their spot back.

4/24/08 6:23 PM
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PPV has never been the way for Japanese MMA. This is one of the most common misconceptions I see on this board. There is virtually no PPV market.

The fact of the matter is that the Japanese MMA fad is coming to an end.
4/24/08 6:29 PM
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 Attjack is unfortunately correct. Japan doesn't have a huge ratings draw right now for the crossover appeal. Sakuraba is past his prime. Same with Yoshida. Ogawa never panned out. People think that guys like Aoki or Gomi are draws, but they don't draw the casual fan to watch.



4/24/08 6:34 PM
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Watch them set up Sakuraba/Tamura and get back into prime time
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That makes sense. Tell the TV executives that Saku and Tamura will repeatedly fight each other on every single show. That will surely work!
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This was always going to happen, DREAM took HERO's slot, and HERO'S had been doing badly recently. TBS threatened to pull it unless the ratings changed months ago, they gave it one last chance as the repackaged DREAM to see if it would help. Since it didn't they moved it to a different slot, however they will more than likely put it back on prime time for the finals of the GPs later this year.
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 i wonder if EVILYOSHIDA is gonna be put on suicide watch because of this...



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 TTT

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 That's okay, we can all transfer our hopes for real MMA right on over to Affliction. Because with their taste in clothing, it's a safe bet they'll put on a high quality promotion.



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Probably because of the water down rules. The Japanese fans are used to stomps and knees to a downed opponent.
4/24/08 10:15 PM
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The majority of Japanese fans don't want real MMA, they want goofy pseudo-pro rasslin/freak shows like Pride and now K-1 offer. Why do you think Shooto is still doing shows in bingo halls in front of 50 people?
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LMAO @ Nightmare.
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So K-1 finally starts taking MMA seriously - scheduling more top MMA fighters on its first few Dream events than it probably ever had during its entire Hero's run combined - and some of you are actually gleefully celebrating the new endeavor's lack of success?

Amazing.

So you'd rather go back to Royce-Akebono or Sapp-Akebono then, instead of the Dream (in every sense) LW GP that they put together, which was as stacked as the Bushido GP was (no Gomi and Sakurai - but with JZ and Aoki).

HendOver - "Their shows just haven't really been prime time worthy IMO."

- Dream has had one show so far - and it had JZ, Kawajiri, Ishida, Aoki, Hansen, Alvarez, Dida, and Buscape on it.

Now how was that not "prime time worthy" at all from a pure MMA-sport perspective?

It wasn't Ken-Tito 3 or Sapp-Akebono in terms of being a mainstream draw - but instead they went with a legit sport angle, with a lineup of top MMA fighters - and it disappointed in the ratings.

Great message.

Seriously, WTF is wrong with some of you UFC-brand slaves.

Most of you are the same ones traditionally decrying the freak-show element to Japanese MMA - and yet when an event happens that features some legit, top MMA fighters and a completely sport-relevant tournament as its centerpiece, and it doesn't do well - you rejoice anyway.

Self-contradict much?

So it seems like that pure-sport sanctimony you guys would spout was all just a phony front.

And btw, a reminder for all you UFC org. whores - K-1 isn't even in direct competition with the UFC.

So all this means is that an alternative venue for top fighters has been downgraded, with no direct benefit to the UFC itself in terms of gaining revenue or market share here.

But I guess for you, hurting non-UFC MMA (even in a completely separate market) is just as good in effect as helping the UFC.

Bunch of partisan sheep.
4/24/08 11:42 PM
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Great. Now the UFC can take most of those fighters. I welcome the matchups, but decry the lack of options.
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holy crap the UFC is done!
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It's funny. Whistleblower calls everyone "UFC sheep" because they didn't like dream, yet pretty much every UFC fan will be watching EliteXC.

It has nothing to do with brand. Stop talking like a shepherd and open your eyes.
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What was "freak show" about the LW GP?

Why are you happy the event didn't do well?

IronRy - "yet pretty much every UFC fan will be watching EliteXC."

- Just like everyone on this thread exulting in Dream's lack of success watched the Dream LW GP.

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