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9/14/08 5:01 PM
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Hawkeyez
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 Last time someone was as left winged and had as rediculous tax policies as Obama(Jimmy Carter), this happened the next term he ran:





Hopefully the people won't be stupid enough to try socialism again.



9/14/08 5:04 PM
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Hawkeyez
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canuck34 - I would vote for Obama purely for the Palin factor. She is a freaking joke.


Yet she has twice as much experience as Obama, thats the funniest part. Alaska Governor > Community Service Organizer.
9/14/08 9:05 PM
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9/15/08 5:02 AM
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9/15/08 3:14 PM
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Please do inform me with what he has done.

Spending 2 of his 4 years in senate running for president?

Voting for a bill to allow born babies to be killed?

Funneling 14 million dollars to William Ayres, the terrorist?

Attending 20 years of Black Liberation Theology sermons?

....crickets
9/16/08 1:46 PM
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I am not a fan of Bush nor do I hate him as much as most. I believe he dealt with some real bad shit and I have no idea how anyone would have handled it better or worse???Two questions that I have that no one can answer without lots and lots of spin are 1. What has Obama done in Illinois or DC that proves he can lead? On the outside he seems like a man who follows the leader (Ayres, Rezco, Wright, etc.) 2. Why is he so opposed to drilling when the majority of Americans want us to drill? This is why I am not a McCain fan either. He opposed drilling for quite a while why Radicals drop production of oil everytime the price gets down.

I have no clue if I will even vote. I may vote for Bob Barr.
9/16/08 2:38 PM
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JakeTyler - Look it up, that's all republican rhetoric, if that's all you know, you really are just dumb.


There is nothing to look up, thats the point.

You said he has done things besides being associated with terrorists and radicals, so why dont you tell me?
9/17/08 5:21 AM
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Who gives a shit what he has done.

Look there's two candidates and you have to make a choice. You can a) choose the guy that has gone back on all he has done for his entire career just to appeal to the crazy republican right. The guy who thinks the fundamentals of the economy are strong on the same day the dow plummets 500 points, the unemployment rate is over 6 percent, etc etc.

Or b) you can choose the guy who is the most different from the current president and promises to make things like they were under Clinton, when the economy was strong and we weren't in 10 million dollars of debt.

McCain appeals to those who make over 250 k, which is less than 2 percent of the country. The only way he wins is if this country is too fucking stupid to know any better and unfortunately, a lot of posters on this board prove that point.

Obama is the smart choice, but he might be too fucking smart for most of this country, and people on this board, to comprehend.
9/17/08 2:15 PM
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MIKEKESK - McCain-

I have a problem with Obamas position on government run healthcare, Taxes, 2nd Amendment, environmental policy, abortion, death penalty, min wage, immigration......just to name a few.



So you're obviously right wing then. I have a problem with Mccain's stances on all those things.

Mccain/Palin....gun-toting, flag waving, blindly patriotic, war-mongering, rich people who will just further the damage Bush has done.

Obama '08.
9/18/08 9:53 PM
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Billy Hull-
the only way Obama wins is if the country replaces intuition with emotion which you clearly do.

Obama is nothing more than a celebrity, pull your head out of your ass and look at what Americas response was after we let Jimmy Carter run the country(similar fiscal policies as Obama).

There is a reason a liberal has not won back to back elections since the 60's(besides Clinton who is a moderate liberal), trying figuring it out dumbass.
9/19/08 1:40 PM
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^^^^^

100% correct.

His uplifting message of hope and change coupled with a Carter era economic policy just doesn't do it for me.

I can't understand the Obama hysteria, unless you're just real big into partial birth abortion.
9/20/08 4:07 PM
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Hawkeyez - Billy Hull-
the only way Obama wins is if the country replaces intuition with emotion which you clearly do.

Obama is nothing more than a celebrity, pull your head out of your ass and look at what Americas response was after we let Jimmy Carter run the country(similar fiscal policies as Obama).

There is a reason a liberal has not won back to back elections since the 60's(besides Clinton who is a moderate liberal), trying figuring it out dumbass.

Nothing more than a celebrity? How bout president of Harvard Law review? What about Palin? Are you telling me that you knew who she was before they starting ramming her celeb star up your ass?
9/20/08 8:43 PM
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The Noose - 
Hawkeyez - Billy Hull-
the only way Obama wins is if the country replaces intuition with emotion which you clearly do.

Obama is nothing more than a celebrity, pull your head out of your ass and look at what Americas response was after we let Jimmy Carter run the country(similar fiscal policies as Obama).

There is a reason a liberal has not won back to back elections since the 60's(besides Clinton who is a moderate liberal), trying figuring it out dumbass.

Nothing more than a celebrity? How bout president of Harvard Law review? What about Palin? Are you telling me that you knew who she was before they starting ramming her celeb star up your ass?


I knew who she was before. She was touted on many pundits short list for VP for a long time. Just take a look at the recent jibjab video and you will see her image on it. Being the president of Harvard Law Review does not give you the executive experience needed to run the country. Palin as little executive experience has more than Obama and has accomplished a lot more in the political arena than Obama.
9/20/08 9:11 PM
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The Noose - 
Hawkeyez - Billy Hull-
the only way Obama wins is if the country replaces intuition with emotion which you clearly do.

Obama is nothing more than a celebrity, pull your head out of your ass and look at what Americas response was after we let Jimmy Carter run the country(similar fiscal policies as Obama).

There is a reason a liberal has not won back to back elections since the 60's(besides Clinton who is a moderate liberal), trying figuring it out dumbass.

Nothing more than a celebrity? How bout president of Harvard Law review? What about Palin? Are you telling me that you knew who she was before they starting ramming her celeb star up your ass?


I didnt need to know who she was because guess what? She has something called a RECORD in politics....as in she has made some decisions as GOVERNOR, as MAYOR, as a BUSINESS EXECUTIVE. These records give me something to look at and see if I agree with her decisions, which I do most.

Barak Apollo Obama has no record, because he has been in the senate for 4 years, 2 of which were running for president. The only record he has is being associated with Black Liberation Theology leader Jeremiah Wright, and a record of starting his political career with the backing of William Ayres, the terrorist.

Nice try though.
9/21/08 10:23 PM
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Dude Ayres was doing his terrorist stuff before Obama knew him and he has since appologized. Hasn't he?

And Obama was never in church on the days Wright was on his white devil and god damn America rants. He has already said this.

Why can't you let go you. It is possible to attend someone's church for 20 years and not know that they are a racist or that they hate this country.

HOPE!!! Change!!!
9/22/08 8:22 AM
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Obama is nothing more than a celebrity...

Great comeback Hawkeyez. Like I've said before, the only chance McCain has to win this election, and one you continue to prove, is if this country is too fucking stupid to know any better.

And as for Palin's record, her record proves one thing. She's George Bush in drag.
9/23/08 9:40 PM
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^^and your record as a logical and intelligent thinker proves one thing. YOUR A DUMBASS
9/23/08 9:51 PM
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stop Obama Express!
10/28/08 1:38 AM
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I voted for Obama. Simple reason. After the 2nd debate fact checkers had Obama lying or stretching the truth 13% of the time, and McCain lying or stretching the truth 75% of the time, in fact, over 50% of the time McCain opens his damn mouth it is an outright lie. I hate being lied to.
10/31/08 4:43 PM
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Glad to see there are still some smart Americans. With all the money (almost double) the money that Mccain had Obama should be even further ahead. He got most his money from our emnemy countries you know. via internet, not tomention Acorn etc,

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