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9/4/08 3:26 PM
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 This comes from the economist.  Anyone who isn't a once a every 4 years armchair cheerleader for their party knows that this is about as Independent of a source you can find

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displayStory.cfm?story_id=12066224&fsrc=nwlbtwfree

THE most audacious move of the race so far is also, potentially, the most self-destructive. John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin as his running-mate has set the political atmosphere alight with both enthusiasm and dismay.

Mr McCain has based his campaign on the idea that this is a dangerous world—and that Barack Obama is too inexperienced to deal with it. He has also acknowledged that his advanced age—he celebrated his 72nd birthday on August 29th—makes his choice of vice-president unusually important. Now he has chosen as his running mate, on the basis of the most cursory vetting, a first-term governor of Alaska.

The reaction from inside the conservative cocoon was at first ecstatic. Conservatives argued that Mrs Palin embodies the “real America”—a moose-hunting hockey mum, married to an oil-worker, who has risen from the local parent-teacher association to governing the geographically largest state in the Union. They praise her as a McCain-style reformer who has taken on her state’s Republican establishment and has a staunch pro-life record (her fifth child has Down’s syndrome). Who better to harpoon the baby-murdering elitists who run the Democratic Party?

Mrs Palin was greeted like the reincarnation of Ronald Reagan by the delegates, furious at her mauling at the hands of the “liberal media”. And she delivered a tub-thumping speech, underlining her record as a reforming governor and advocate of more oil-drilling, and warning her enemies not to underestimate her (“the difference between a hockey mum and a pitbull—lipstick”). But once the cheering and the chanting had died down, serious questions remained.

The political calculations behind Mr McCain’s choice hardly look robust. Mrs Palin is not quite the pork-busting reformer that her supporters claim. She may have become famous as the governor who finally killed the infamous “bridge to nowhere”—the $220m bridge to the sparsely inhabited island of Gravina, Alaska. But she was in favour of the bridge before she was against it (and told local residents that they weren’t “nowhere to her”). As mayor of Wasilla, a metropolis of 9,000 people, she initiated annual trips to Washington, DC, to ask for more earmarks from the state’s congressional delegation, and employed Washington lobbyists to press for more funds for her town.

Nor is Mrs Palin well placed to win over the moderate and independent voters who hold the keys to the White House. Mr McCain’s main political problem is not energising his base; he enjoys more support among Republicans than Mr Obama does among Democrats. His problem is reaching out to swing voters at a time when the number of self-identified Republicans is up to ten points lower than the number of self-identified Democrats. Mr McCain needs to attract roughly 55% of independents and 15% of Democrats to win the election. But it is hard to see how a woman who supports the teaching of creationism rather than contraception, and who is soon to become a 44-year-old grandmother, helps him with soccer moms in the Philadelphia suburbs. A Rasmussen poll found that the Palin pick made 31% of undecided voters less likely to plump for Mr McCain and only 6% more likely.

The moose in the room, of course, is her lack of experience. When Geraldine Ferraro was picked as Walter Mondale’s running-mate, she had served in the House for three terms. Even the hapless Dan Quayle, George Bush senior’s sidekick, had served in the House and Senate for 12 years. Mrs Palin, who has been the governor of a state with a population of 670,000 for less than two years, is the most inexperienced candidate for a mainstream party in modern history.

Inexperienced and Bush-level incurious. She has no record of interest in foreign policy, let alone expertise. She once told an Alaskan magazine: “I’ve been so focused on state government; I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq.” She obtained an American passport only last summer to visit Alaskan troops in Germany and Kuwait. This not only blunts Mr McCain’s most powerful criticism of Mr Obama. It also raises serious questions about the way he makes decisions.


*guess I got owned again for thinking rationally on the subject*

9/4/08 3:29 PM
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 amazing that she's running for VP and until last year had never even been out of the country.  lmfao


9/4/08 3:32 PM
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 Had she ever left Alaska?
9/4/08 3:33 PM
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good for her visiting the alaska troops, but kind of funny that she visited them in germany and kuwait.

i know its lonely and dangerous in germany.
9/4/08 3:33 PM
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pretty good.
9/4/08 3:33 PM
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Fraser -  Had she ever left Alaska?


"she initiated annual trips to Washington, DC, to ask for more earmarks from the state’s congressional delegation"

lol
9/4/08 3:38 PM
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well that kills her part of the speach about pork barrel spending, and minimizing expenses.
9/4/08 3:40 PM
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Like the average joe will read this!

Palin will do more for McCain than Biden did for obama.
9/4/08 3:42 PM
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I am a bit worried about the country seeing how much energy she has brought to the Republicans.

Her positions are so far from mine.
9/4/08 3:44 PM
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It's important students are given the "information" about creationism (an entirely fictional account with no bearing on anything) but not about birth control, something that has day-to-day impact.
9/4/08 3:46 PM
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ruger, it doesn't matter if the avg. joe will read this. The FACTS of the article stand on their own. I don't expect someone with such blind faith as yourself to understand this. Please leave the big boy thread, and go back to being loud and obnoxious.
9/4/08 3:47 PM
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Moose in the room?
9/4/08 3:49 PM
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democrats keep fucking up. and will loose it. You cant try to win people with facts, especially when some of those facts make you look at your own lifestyle.

Republicans will win because they win people over with feelings. Feelings of patriatism, feelings of belonging to something larger than life. Feelings that the other side (democrats) are unpatriotic and want america to loose.

Thats why I think McCain will win. And Palin was perfect fit for that, she makes you feel good and important. Here is this small town girl who fights the big bad men in the whitehouse and has the guts to stick up for whats right. Someone who is a tough as nails pitbul with lipstick soccer mom that the middle class can "relate" too.
9/4/08 3:51 PM
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 Unbiased and uninformed. 

As I stated in a previous thread, McCain wouldn't have selected Palin as his running mate if Palin had as little experience as Obama.
9/4/08 3:53 PM
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 "As I stated in a previous thread, McCain wouldn't have selected Palin as his running mate if Palin had as little experience as Obama."

Out of interest, do you think McCain (himself) thinks she was the best person for the VP job?
9/4/08 3:55 PM
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sprinfield, why did you even bother posting in this thread? the content is obviously too much for your brain to comprehend.
9/4/08 3:55 PM
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BD...lol, just pointing out "real world reality" not what is "right" or "wrong".

Anybody tell you life isn't fair?

You might have valid points, but nobody listens to an angry, up tight person. Use some honey, it works better.

Big boy,lol.
9/4/08 3:59 PM
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Springfield is a huge moron. Moving on, The Economist cover right now has a pic of Johnny Mac and it reads "Bring the Real McCain Back"
9/4/08 4:07 PM
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"Springfield is a huge moron."
Really? Please explain.

9/4/08 4:12 PM
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thanks for posting the article
9/4/08 4:13 PM
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 Why are you so obsessed with Sarah Palin?
9/4/08 4:16 PM
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Does that answer your question The Horror?

9/4/08 4:16 PM
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drink beer, shoot guns, look fucking hot.
9/4/08 4:17 PM
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For some reason I don't think that's why. But I like the photoshops.

9/4/08 4:25 PM
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I feel like I'm looking at a ManOfThePeepHole thread,lol.

me like.

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