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10/8/08 9:09 PM
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I'm gonna write him in. I feel that if enough of. us get together and actually do this we may actually have a chance of electing someone who gives a crap about the people who actually live in this country. Please ask everyone you know is voting to do what is in the best interest of our union.
10/8/08 9:11 PM
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i agree with you that Paul would be the best thing to happen to this country. however, be realistic at this time. no one is going to be elected through write in votes at this time.
10/8/08 9:16 PM
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10/8/08 9:26 PM
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SwampRocker - i agree with you that Paul would be the best thing to happen to this country. however, be realistic at this time. no one is going to be elected through write in votes at this time.


You are probably right, but I think it's the 1st step to opening the eyes of the majority of voters who reluctantly vote for either of the 2 majority parties every 4 years. If someone who has intelligent and articulate ideas (like Paul), and obviously cares for the future of our nation (again, Paul) were to receive even a marginal portion of the the popular vote (Let's say 7 or 8%), it could be the catalyst that our country needs to realize that we are still a nation "by the people, of the people and for the people"

Bottom line is that the system is broken and the constitution clearly states that it is the responsibilty of the citizens of our nation to take action to fix the problem.
10/8/08 9:26 PM
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Oh yeah, and eat me manny99
10/8/08 9:28 PM
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Ron Paul's brand of lazzais faire capitalism is exactly what we do not need right now. Sorry, wrong guy at the wrong time.
10/8/08 9:30 PM
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it's exactly what we need right now.
10/8/08 9:35 PM
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i agree with the OP...
10/8/08 9:36 PM
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A million plus laid off white collar workers probably disagree. Look around you and see where deregulation has gotten us. Besides, I cant support an anti abortion, anti stem cell research candidate.

Oh wait, this is the intraweb where half baked ideas come to grow into oak trees.
10/8/08 9:40 PM
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I'm with you... Ron Paul is the only person who "gets it." The mainstream corporate media carefully assisted the powers that be in keeping Paul's comments quiet. The corruption needs to end. I've been planning on writing him in since he pulled out the election.

Vote Ron Paul!
10/8/08 9:41 PM
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Ron Paul is ok, not my ideal candidate but the other two sure as hell aren't either. This country DESPERATELY needs a viable 3rd party. 2 parties isn't enough, green/libertarian/independent whatever you wanna call it, we gotta shake the red/blue bullshit up.
10/8/08 9:48 PM
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shpadoinkle - 
If someone who has intelligent and articulate ideas (like Paul), and obviously cares for the future of our nation (again, Paul) were to receive even a marginal portion of the the popular vote (Let's say 7 or 8%), it could be the catalyst that our country needs to realize that we are still a nation "by the people, of the people and for the people"



Sadly, Paul probably couldn't get 7-8% if he was on the ballot, let alone as a write in.

And even if it did happen, it wouldn't be the catalyst that you think it would be. Let not forget Ross Perot, who got 18.9% of the popular vote in 1992.
10/8/08 9:50 PM
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LOL Ron Paul is the Kimbo of politics; all internet hype that doesnt mean anything in the real world. He's a religious zealot and an extreme righty. Scary what would happen if all of the uninformed dolts that don't know economics from marvel comics got this nutbag elected. This guy is certifiable.
10/8/08 9:51 PM
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 Ron Paul was the last chance but knew too little about him too late. Too bad everyone now has to take a bite of the giant shit sandwich called socialism...
10/8/08 9:59 PM
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certifiable for what???

for wanting to cut spending when government is still dropping billions when we are in the middle of an economic crisis?

for wanting to end an illegal war that is costing the country thousands of lives & billions of dollars while enforcing a foreign policy which alienates us from the other country's and forces us into a world policing position?

for sticking to sound ideas set forth by the consitition?

for addressing the root causes of why the dollar is depreciating to shit?
10/8/08 10:06 PM
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YourFathersUncle - Yeah, I'm not a Democrat or a Republican, but people who say they support Ron Paul lose all credibility.

Considering his bat shit crazy newsletters, and his almost vacant grasp of foreign policy, Alex Jones would be an equal choice.

The man is a litmust test for determining if someone is a sociopathic, paleo Libertarian, or a straight up dilettante when it comes to politics. There's always some third party candidate that the outsiders glom onto as if they were the second coming of Christ.

I think it's time to give the Democrats a shot, since Republicans have pretty much been a absolute disaster running government. However, I don't like the idea of there being a Democrat Congress. I would feel much more comfortable with an Obama Presidency, and a Republican Congress.

Regardless, you are witnessing the tail end of what is likely to be regarded as the worst Presidency in the history of this Country. Thanks small town America!

It's what you get when you value folksy idiocy above of sincere intellectual interest.


Your take on Ron Paul is dead on. However blaming the bush admin on small town America is an incredible stretch Who would urban america have elected, Al Gore? John Kerry? The height of intellectualism lol.
10/8/08 10:17 PM
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PTM2020 - it's exactly what we need right now.


A million plus laid off white collar workers probably disagree. Look around you and see where deregulation has gotten us. Besides, I cant support an anti abortion, anti stem cell research candidate.

Oh wait, this is the intraweb where half baked ideas come to grow into oak trees.


Whoa now, hold on buddy...

1. Ron Paul is NOT against stem cell research. He is against the federal government subsidizing it.

2. Abortion is murder. However, Ron Paul simply wants to put the issue in the states hands where it belongs. Tax payers should not have their taxes used to fund abortions.

3. If deregulation results in inefficient companies going bankrupt and subsequent layoffs that follow then those jobs had no RIGHT to exist in the first place. That is the result of a healthy free enterprise economy.
10/8/08 10:25 PM
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^ VERY Well said
10/8/08 10:26 PM
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"and his almost vacant grasp of foreign policy"

Yeah, because that neocon interventionism is working out so well. Interventionism is the problem, not the solution. We should bring the troops home and mind our own business and stop policing the world.

If you live in Louisiana or Montana Paul will be on the ballot. Writing him in, if he is not an official write-in candidate, will probably not count in most states. Vote Baldwin or Barr instead.
10/8/08 10:26 PM
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PTM2020 - it's exactly what we need right now.


A million plus laid off white collar workers probably disagree. Look around you and see where deregulation has gotten us. Besides, I cant support an anti abortion, anti stem cell research candidate.

Oh wait, this is the intraweb where half baked ideas come to grow into oak trees.


Whoa now, hold on buddy...

1. Ron Paul is NOT against stem cell research. He is against the federal government subsidizing it.

2. Abortion is murder. However, Ron Paul simply wants to put the issue in the states hands where it belongs. Tax payers should not have their taxes used to fund abortions.

3. If deregulation results in inefficient companies going bankrupt and subsequent layoffs that follow then those jobs had no RIGHT to exist in the first place. That is the result of a healthy free enterprise economy.


Your points 1 is untrue and 2 is too stupid to comment on, however you point 3 is dangerous thinking and I fear that there are other lunatics that believe that.

I have 15 years in banking and it would take me too long to educate you on the current banking crisis, however it has nothing to do with inneficient companies. Morons operating shadow markets without oversight, yes, too much regulation, no. Start your research here: Glass Steagal Act, Commodity Futures Modernization Act, Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. Do some research about SIV's, CDO's, MBS's and get back to me on the wonders of deregulation.
10/8/08 10:38 PM
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"There's always some third party candidate that the outsiders glom onto as if they were the second coming of Christ."

Thats because people are generally fed up with bipartisan politics and any other candidate that can speak free of an republican or democratic agenda seems like a good choice.

It was only compounded this year when Ron Paul started hitting the nail on the head about some economic issues. People that dont really like Obama or McCain saw that and thought, "damn he's our guy!".
10/8/08 10:44 PM
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It was nice to see someone hit the nail on the head for a change... too bad congress and the Fed were too busy making people believe he is "bat shit crazy."
10/8/08 11:01 PM
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" Your points 1 is untrue and 2 is too stupid to comment on, however you point 3 is dangerous thinking and I fear that there are other lunatics that believe that. "

"I have 15 years in banking and it would take me too long to educate you on the current banking crisis, however it has nothing to do with inneficient companies. Morons operating shadow markets without oversight, yes, too much regulation, no. Start your research here: Glass Steagal Act, Commodity Futures Modernization Act, Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. Do some research about SIV's, CDO's, MBS's and get back to me on the wonders of deregulation."


First off, I'll take your first paragraph as a concede to defeat seeing as you cannot back up YOUR "nutbag" claims with anything but, "thats stupid." How about you do YOUR research and listen to what the man has to say rather than some propaganda your old lady picked up from The View.

Secondly, the financial crisis we are facing now does not come from deregulation. This is a multifaceted problem that exists on many levels. At the front of which are privatized, treacherous and treasonous entities such as the Federal Reserve, FNMA, FHLMC.
10/8/08 11:12 PM
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Citing the fed and gse's as the tip of the spear show your ignorance on the subject. I have problems with the fed, but they are the tail, not the dog. The dog is wall street investment bankers and they were able to get their hands on the money of commercial banks through deregulation. Bipartisan deregulation at that. I'm all for change, but religious right wing wacko change is not what I'm looking for.
10/8/08 11:46 PM
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nofatchicks - Citing the fed and gse's as the tip of the spear show your ignorance on the subject. I have problems with the fed, but they are the tail, not the dog. The dog is wall street investment bankers and they were able to get their hands on the money of commercial banks through deregulation. Bipartisan deregulation at that. I'm all for change, but religious right wing wacko change is not what I'm looking for.


They most certainly are the tip of the spear! The Fed prints this toxic money which they then charge the american tax payer interest on. They are responsible for the devaluing of the dollar.

The GSE's are wall street banks chartered by the government. They have pilfered the tax payers and have bankrupted themselves. Now their buddies at the Federal Reserve ( against the wishes of nearly every american ) are going to GIVE them more money to steal with. Then, the Federal reserve will charge interest for the money THEY have stolen to give to these thieves. Id say they are a big part of the problem!

I've never heard Ron Paul even bring up religion. How is a politician who actually adheres to the constitution considered a wacko? What kind of sick spin do you have to put on things to come to that kind of logic?

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