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10/24/13 9:54 PM
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Mertvaya Ruka
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Obviously PEDs will always be around.

I say, regulate it. Make it safe and put in very strict rules on what can and can't be done. Have doctors follow up with athletes.

And test randomly year round for all the shit that will be banned for security reasons.
10/25/13 1:54 AM
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10/25/13 2:05 AM
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10/25/13 4:44 AM
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10/25/13 5:16 AM
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10/29/13 11:42 AM
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Is Lolo Jones on roids? She's eating 7-9 thousand calories a day since she became a bobsledder and she's still ripped.
6/3/14 5:30 PM
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bump, because of surprise drugstesting is increasing.
6/3/14 8:03 PM
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6/3/14 8:18 PM
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time traveling 12er - I'm pretty sure almost everyone in a top level sport has used something banned. Even if it's only to heal a sprain or tear faster. Honestly any athlete that has surgery done will likely be put on a bunch of banned substances anyways, it doesn't take much to make that leap into using it during periods when it's considered unfair.

I don't think there's a realistic way to keep PED's out of sports competition other than continuing to see it as a huge black mark when an athlete gets caught. Any new regulations or tests will only make the cheaters change their methods. There's so much money in cheating that they'll always be better funded therefore ahead of the testing agencies. The various leagues and orgs put up a front about wanting to be clean but in reality they know that PED's help sell tickets so they're not going to bust the bank just to hurt themselves in the end. Guys can hit harder, jump higher, last longer, and stay injured shorter.

For athletes the benefits are just too good in comparison to the drawbacks. Ask yourself if you would take something illegal if it meant doubling or tripling your pay? I think lots of people would do it even if it meant being labeled a cheater if you got caught. Some high level people in the business world take stimulants like candy.

Pretty much this. This is why I feel a more dynamic stance on the idea of steroids needs to be pursued. Not just banning everything for the sake of it.

Its sad how the average joe can take whatever he wants to heal injuries and such faster, but the people who treat their bodies like race cards and need this modern treatment have to suffer with outdated, old school medical treatment in that regard. In non-human based competition, like car racing, the cars are outfitted with the most modern of technology (not even street legal) while normal cars limited and are subjected to normal upgrades and advances. Restrictor plates are put into place in racing for safety and to stop cheating. They dont just ban all tech that can make a car faster or perform better.

Instead of banning all steroids (even helpful ones or ones used for very good reasons), a "restrictor plate" needs to be put into place for people in the form of better drug testing and a better understanding of levels and what the steroids are capable of so it can be better regulated and identified.

It sucks that so many people abuse steroids because they could honestly HELP the sport if they were better known and put into the light instead of being shrouded in darkness and used for cheating.
6/3/14 8:42 PM
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time traveling 12er - I'm pretty sure almost everyone in a top level sport has used something banned. Even if it's only to heal a sprain or tear faster. Honestly any athlete that has surgery done will likely be put on a bunch of banned substances anyways, it doesn't take much to make that leap into using it during periods when it's considered unfair.

I don't think there's a realistic way to keep PED's out of sports competition other than continuing to see it as a huge black mark when an athlete gets caught. Any new regulations or tests will only make the cheaters change their methods. There's so much money in cheating that they'll always be better funded therefore ahead of the testing agencies. The various leagues and orgs put up a front about wanting to be clean but in reality they know that PED's help sell tickets so they're not going to bust the bank just to hurt themselves in the end. Guys can hit harder, jump higher, last longer, and stay injured shorter.

For athletes the benefits are just too good in comparison to the drawbacks. Ask yourself if you would take something illegal if it meant doubling or tripling your pay? I think lots of people would do it even if it meant being labeled a cheater if you got caught. Some high level people in the business world take stimulants like candy.

Pretty much this. This is why I feel a more dynamic stance on the idea of steroids needs to be pursued. Not just banning everything for the sake of it.

Its sad how the average joe can take whatever he wants to heal injuries and such faster, but the people who treat their bodies like race cards and need this modern treatment have to suffer with outdated, old school medical treatment in that regard. In non-human based competition, like car racing, the cars are outfitted with the most modern of technology (not even street legal) while normal cars limited and are subjected to normal upgrades and advances. Restrictor plates are put into place in racing for safety and to stop cheating. They dont just ban all tech that can make a car faster or perform better.

Instead of banning all steroids (even helpful ones or ones used for very good reasons), a "restrictor plate" needs to be put into place for people in the form of better drug testing and a better understanding of levels and what the steroids are capable of so it can be better regulated and identified.

It sucks that so many people abuse steroids because they could honestly HELP the sport if they were better known and put into the light instead of being shrouded in darkness and used for cheating.
VU's to brahmabull & time traveling 12'er.

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6/5/14 8:28 PM
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Morpheus1976
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PEDS is a Global problem, just like drugs
The medication maffia company's are making billions, legally
6/10/14 9:56 PM
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Bump, Chael PCT therapie

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