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1/6/09 9:08 AM
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Stranglehold26
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http://www.blackeyemma.com/

I have found the Bum Fight MECCA. This website, while claiming to have writers that "know everything about alabama mma" or "know all the fighters in the south", covers nothing but bum fights for the most part.

They actually say, "when blackeye mma releases their fighter rankings in 2009 there is no doubt that Juan Zapata is the top 155er in alabama."

Or, "Sasuke Zapata is the "virtually unstoppable"....yeah, if by "virtually" you mean he was whipped by Marcus Brimage.

The whole site is a joke...not sure whether to cry or laugh when I was reading the "coverage" of local events. If you can get past the whole "I write at a third grade level" and actually read any of it, it is simply ridiculous.

Everyone knows there are a few simple truths in this state:

1. John Salter is the best 185 in the state...pro, ammy, whatever and he has proved it in the ring, and now because he has to fight out of state to find anybody to throw down with him, these rednecks have no idea who he is.

2. Marcus Brimage is the best 155 in the state...pro,ammy whatever. Case Closed, end of thread.

These "articles" and I use that term loosely, are pathetic BUM FIGHT nuthugging write ups. Sad, but worth a ganders.
1/6/09 1:26 PM
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Rymen Gracie
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 I happened upon blackeyemma.com a while back...you are correct--quite a joke.
Love how they call everyone "a KO artist", "most liked in MMA", etc...sadly, the sport now has deal with the Johnny-come-latelys with keyboards. Good thing the real people that know what they're  talking about can see right through it. Blackeye's statements are actually what led to John O'Brien's fight with Sasuke. Their interesting take that having a fight in the local "cage" validates someone more than a decade of legit training under qualified instructors is laughable.
--John Salter is the real deal for sure...seen him train and fight. Tony Sullivan is also a fairly decent chap at 185 in AL...
1/6/09 1:55 PM
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Hiza Geri
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 Tony Sullivan is also a fairly decent chap at 185 in AL...

Is that a challenge...?  

There is no doubt Tony is VERY good; I've had the pleasure of training with him.  I would not bet against Salter in that one, but it would be a good fight to watch...
1/6/09 3:27 PM
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Rymen Gracie
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 Not a challenge at all...there's only one person with the authority to make that challenge and that is the man himself.  Tony's cool and don't need shit started on a simple statement...was just saying there are other good fighters in the area. Easy on the pot-stirring and threads...Tony and John can more than handle things for themselves. 

Would be a great fight, though.
1/6/09 3:44 PM
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Hiza Geri
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 The question was obviously rhetorical.  And there is no pot-stirring or whatnot involved; it would be a great fight, one that alot of people would pay for.  My other thread is a result of excitement at the thought of the matchup- nothing else, no "shit started".  If you don't want comparisons being drawn or "dream match-ups" being discussed, then don't post an obvious comparison to Salter, a la "--John Salter is the real deal for sure...seen him train and fight. Tony Sullivan is also a fairly decent chap at 185 in AL..."
1/7/09 12:22 AM
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 i signed me and strangle up for a bad blood death match on the blackeyemma site.
should be a great fight with ko artist/ground extraordanaire  stranglehold (123-4 mma) matching up against an out of shape "world" pointfighting champ/ko artist of AL Hoodlum (2-1 BF).
lol what up guys?
1/7/09 3:12 AM
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Kudos to Hoodlum LOL! Although I wish you would have put on there that 120 of my wins are by submission AND that those four losses were bullshit decisions that were clearly my fight!

TTT4 Death Matches and KO artists!!!!!

BTW Wade, you also have to inflate your mma record by adding every single win that you EVER racked up in karate matches since you were a kid. I am convinced people do that when I see these "321-10" records etc.

BlackeyeMMA = BUM FIGHT.COM!!!!!

I should be careful though, I hear the guy who runs the site is a devastating KO artist AND one of the most well liked fighters in the BUM FIGHT circuit!
1/7/09 3:22 AM
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straight from the site, no editing:


Ray Echols -vs- Levar Anderson
Both of these fighters have excellent KO power and like to stand so I predict that one of these power houses will get knocked out!
We have witnessed Ray KO and submit fighters everywhere that he has fought. The former Golden Glove Champion KO artist now has a great ground game as we have seen him submit several of his last opponents.

I want a grappling match with Echols after I destroy Matt Hammill. Every time I call Hammill to set it up though he acts confused and then says, and I quote, "hoooo errrr uuuhhh i dhijyk nu u ahhh cun you daaa phhhhhiiiink".....what an asshole right?
1/7/09 3:27 AM
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Rgracie: Can you post some of Sullivan's info here such as record and some of the people he has fought? I only recognize the name from hearing some people talk about him, but have never seen him fight before and am curious to know more about him. Thanks
1/7/09 3:27 AM
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 ttt for karate point matches to the death! and by death, i mean, the first to ten points!!!
1/7/09 8:18 AM
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I WASN'T stirring!!! You state Salter is the best at 185, RG tries to be clever by insinuating Tony's name after John's at 185...though very careful not to just come out and say anything, I get excited over a possible match that might actually challenge John (in fact, I can see a couple of scenarios where John gets submitted...), I make a post or two about it, RG tries to make it look like I'm the one who started comparing the two-trying to start stuff-blah, blah, I responded.

Tony did not have a fight until he tried out for the IFL, where he obliterated his pro opponents (don't know who they were), but he never got the call (probably because the IFL knew they were tanking at that point and didn't want to sign anymore contracts). I've trained with him over the years, he is a B'ham cop, a bjj black, and a very cool guy (except I think his "perps" probably don't think so!) I would not bet against Salter in this one, but it would not surprise me if he lost to Tony, either.
1/7/09 8:43 AM
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Singing a different tune than earlier...you made it sound like Salter would walk through this dude, now you make it sound like Sullivan would spank Salter!

Make up your mind before you TROLL! speaking of Troll, anyone catch some of latest posts on the "blackeyeMMA.com" discussion forum? Guy sounds like a real a-hole.

BTW: Instant log in for that site, if someone were inclined to troll a certain site than that someone could be posting in less than a minute...if someone were so inclined.
1/7/09 9:00 AM
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 Stranglehold...
If you go to TriadMartialArts.com and look under Cullman Students, there is a list of some of Tony's accomplishments. The point is, he doesn't have any fights outside the IFL trials. My ONLY point in mentioning his name, while agreeing with you comments abouts fight gurus at blackeye, was to add him to the list of good AL fighters that refuse to fight in the lame, shady shows. It had nothing to do with comparing Tony and Salter at all, actually. Tony knows John, and when we ran into Salter at an ECI show in Huntsville last year, John recognized Tony from when they rolled together at Triad a couple years ago. They've both come a long way since then.

I've known Tony for 16 years...we've trained together for aobut 8. If you're interested, here is what I can tell you:
--He trains harder than anyone. He trains 7 days a week, and twice a day on 3 of those. He was the worst, most unathletic student at Triad 11 years ago when he started, and now he is the best standing up and on the ground...simply because he trains hard and all he thinks of is fighting. In his mind, he has dedicated over a decade to building himself and isn't keen on compromising that with these local shows, and Johnny at Triad isn't very cool supporting them. It is an admirable stance, but likely not the best way to get the best Triad fighters names out there...thus my mentioning him in your list of good AL fighters.

Along the same lines...another Triad fighter, John O'Brien, is fighting on the Cullman Card discussed on Blackeye...if you read his comments you'll see his thoughts and reasons why he is doing it. John's brother Daniel (you can also see his accomplishments on the Triad site) is actually going to be another name in the state to watch for...a name people who only live and die by the local shows will likely never mention in their druken, back-porch discussions about who is the "ultimate bad man" and such...

Hope that helps some with Tony...he's a tough fighter and a good dude.
1/7/09 9:00 AM
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Rymen Gracie
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 And BTW, Strangle...you guys are dead on with the Blackeye comments...glad someone else sees it.
1/7/09 10:45 AM
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yeah some troll named "Koartist" on the blackeye forum was agreeing wholeheartedly with John O. on there about the mma scene in AL ;).

Tony sounds like an amazing individual who doesn't deserve all the shit talking that Hiza is pouring on him.

Just kidding, both you guys are hyped up! I am actually gonna be at the Cullman show with some friends and I agree with "KOartis" on the blackeye forum when he picked John O by sub in round one....and round two LOL.

Have a good one boys! Raid the blackeye forum! Let's all go in there and set up shop AL-UG style!
1/7/09 12:13 PM
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 If one of you guys are KOartist, its keeping me entertained. Keep it up. If not, Im still entertained.
1/8/09 2:06 AM
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KOartist, ItrainUFC and "Stranglehold26"...are raping that forum with the troll jobs!

I love trolling, especially when I come to the site with my troll name account set up and see that someone with my AL-UG screen name is trolling there with me...AWESOME....It has to be you Jason!

Well played guys. I think Eddie Fielder, Adam (the guy who runs the site) and a couple of the bum fighters will probably never come back to that forum....

Damn this shit is fun! How long till we are all banned?
1/8/09 7:55 AM
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OMG!!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=391083985

check it! Look at the "fight team" pics...

just a preview:

each person is listed as "knockout artist"...(ray echols of course)

but then he has another one listed as "striker" and the last and best of all, "rubberguard specialist"

LMAO!
1/8/09 8:40 AM
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Hiza Geri
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Stranglehold= pot stirrer and top level distortionist.
1/8/09 8:41 AM
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Hiza Geri
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Case in point: Salter was in the process of submitting Strangle yesterday and he was actually talking smack to him in between cries of pain and submission...
1/8/09 9:27 AM
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Rymen Gracie
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 Good stuff over on blackeye...and thanks for that link to GOLD on the Fear None myspace...know those guys too well.
1/8/09 9:50 AM
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I was wondering how long it would take before strangle found that site. oh and uh...thanks for leaving my friendly little posts alone. *writes check to Hiza to cover legal fees for keeping strangle off my back*
1/8/09 11:01 AM
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Hiza Geri
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Do you think these guys will get a write up as "KO Artists".
1/8/09 3:50 PM
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 love that video... 2 for 1 special coming right up
1/8/09 10:27 PM
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wow...mma is at an all time low.

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