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3/4/09 4:22 PM
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DonkeyKick215
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Bear recurve so they cant get my location
3/5/09 1:16 PM
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So I'm thinking about restructuring my current arms set. What is set in stone is my 9mm for handguns as well as a small carbine.

I had standardized around old Russian calibers. I got an SKS and was planning on getting a second one for parts. I also got a Mosin Nagant 7.62x54 in case I wanted a high powered rifle for anything. I figured I could get a .308 or 30-06 Saiga and find a cheap bolt action in that caliber too. I've been reading up a lot on Saiga's since that mini-14 thread, and I like what I'm reading. A .308 with an AK action seems like a pretty good SHTF rifle. Cheap too. I'm heading to a gun show this weekend and will be like a kid in a candy store. What do you think?

The only con is the expensive as hell magazines. It may end being more cost effective to get a M1 and a boat load of stripper clips instead of getting 5-10 extra magazines at a cost of $200-$400. I actually don't mind stripper clips.
3/5/09 6:21 PM
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are the .308 Kalashnikov mags that much more expensive than the 7.62 versions? I'm paying around $20 for 30 round mags for my MAK-90.
3/5/09 10:16 PM
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$35-40 for 8 round mags...
3/6/09 12:06 AM
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damn. that is high. Why not swap to the 7.62 then. You aren't giving up much for ballistics and its a cheaper and much more prevalent round. No matter what happens in the world, 9mm, 5.56 (.223) and 7.62 rounds will be available.
3/6/09 7:01 AM
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Yeah. I already have the SKS and over 1000 rounds of ammo. I just liked the idea of if I needed to bolt with a single rifle, the 308 could be all purpose. I could use it for protection if need be and could easily hunt anything in my area. I guess if I find one for the right price this weekend, then I'll do it. Otherwise I'll stay with 7.62. I could always get a .308 upper for my AR-15 I guess.
3/6/09 1:38 PM
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I am leaning more towards a 308 now as well. The Semi autos are expensive.
3/6/09 6:14 PM
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=crap cz-58's are hard to get. all backordered, Im on a list at least but they are booking two shipments ahead! I had to pick the highest demand gun in Canada.
3/6/09 10:53 PM
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Dependable guns.

My choices would be an AK-47 w/ an Acog and either a .40sw or .45 Glock. 40sw for people who value having more shots, .45 for people who value having more power.

AR-15/M4s are very picky of ammo and need to be serviced regularly or they jam like crazy. The 5.56 round is a mean little sucker but if you need a "survival" gun it's not going to do the job vs larger game very efficiently.

9mm is a weak bullet all the way around and a horrible choice for a survival gun. Some people argue that +P+ rounds make up for this, but I still think its dinky (2 cents).
3/7/09 12:03 AM
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ThousandYrdStare - Dependable guns.

My choices would be an AK-47 w/ an Acog and either a .40sw or .45 Glock. 40sw for people who value having more shots, .45 for people who value having more power.

AR-15/M4s are very picky of ammo and need to be serviced regularly or they jam like crazy. The 5.56 round is a mean little sucker but if you need a "survival" gun it's not going to do the job vs larger game very efficiently.

9mm is a weak bullet all the way around and a horrible choice for a survival gun. Some people argue that +P+ rounds make up for this, but I still think its dinky (2 cents).



Was your first post better than this one? Go back to playing COD4.
3/7/09 12:30 AM
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Was your first post better than this one? Go back to playing COD4.


You serious? I would like to know what part of my post you do not agree with or is FPSer-ish..
3/7/09 5:06 PM
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So I think I am going to end up getting a Saiga 308, but I think I'll wait a little bit. Possibly after my trip to Europe. My dealer has Remington model seven in .308 that is scoped that he'd give to me for $500. Think I may jump on that puppy.
3/9/09 3:38 PM
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I am hoping that Glock makes a carbine. They have denied the rumor but the interest has been so overhelming that they would be crazy not to make one. If they can make it with the same qualities as their pistols I would buy one.
3/9/09 4:31 PM
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3/9/09 9:10 PM
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I've seen that before. Anyone got a sticker price for that?
3/12/09 7:38 PM
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Is a .32 revolver a good gun for a woman? A guy says he has one for sale. Is .32 ammo harder to get?
3/14/09 12:20 AM
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^It's alright. It's just hard to get ammo. A .38 would be better.
3/14/09 2:40 PM
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Yeah I sort of figured out.
3/17/09 1:17 PM
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I found a widow that is selling all her late husbands guns. He has a .22, .32, and a .357 revolver. I might buy them all. I would trade all those guns for a good, compact .38, hopefully the .357 isn't too big.

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