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2/11/09 1:38 PM
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Kostakio
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Do you guys recommend any of these two?

Sony - Cyber-shot 9.1-Megapixel Digital Camera - Black

Model: DSC-H50/B | SKU: 8757268

15x optical/2x digital zoom; 3" color TFT-LCD monitor; Super SteadyShot optical image stabilization; direct printing


Canon - Powershot 10.0-Megapixel Digital Camera

Model: SX10 IS | SKU: 9051045

20x optical/4x digital zoom; 2.5" LCD screen; DIGIC 4 image processor; 11 photo effects; PictBridge-compatible


 
2/11/09 1:42 PM
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 By the way, I know... "LOL @ only $600 or under"... but that's all I can afford for now. Plus, it's only a hobby. :)
2/13/09 7:32 PM
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Neither of these two cameras will work for MMA unless you're only into taking still photos.


My post from the other thread:

For a UFC, about $2000-2500.

For a smaller show, I'd say $1000-1500.

It's not about the camera, it's about the lens.
2/13/09 8:23 PM
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 Hey, thanks, man. I guess I'll just have to hold off on getting a camera for now and maybe save me pennies for a much better one. :(
2/14/09 9:38 PM
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Don't listen to the haters!  Just kidding, Tokyudo is cool.

Anyways, you can get a Nikon D50 or D80 for $500 or less (I paid $300 for my D50 that was rarely used). You can get a 50mm F/1.8 for $105 or so. That's still under your budget!

Ultimately, you'd want a 85mm F/1.8 ($300+) and maybe a zoom lens like a Tokina 28-70 F/2.8 or Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 for around $300-400 in the future. It's all about lens that are F/2.8 or faster (the lower, the better) so if you can get your hands on a 50mm F/1.4 for a good price, even better!
2/15/09 11:08 PM
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I just wanted to add that my price approximations reflect the cost of fast zoom lenses.

backfist is correct in saying you could technically get by with a beginner SLR body and the 50mm f1.8 lens that will keep you under budget.

The 50mm f1.8 is a prime lens meaning that it doesn't zoom. You have to move yourself forward and back to "zoom". The lens is amazing though (for either platform - Canon or Nikon) and it's very cheap (approx. $90-110). The picture is very sharp. However, it's not always easy to use for people shooting MMA for the first time.

MMA photography can be very challenging with all of the varying conditions from venue to venue. It's very rewarding though.

Please don't let my estimations discourage you. We all have to start somewhere and this damn hobby isn't getting any cheaper :)
2/15/09 11:34 PM
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 Thanks for the help, guys. I spoke to Crooklyn the other day and she recommended this camera (the second one I posted) as a starter for me so I'm going to buy it on Tuesday. :)

Canon - Powershot 10.0-Megapixel Digital Camera


It's listed as $399 at Best Buy but I found it for $329 (new) at this place in Manhattan. I can't wait! :)

2/16/09 12:50 PM
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That won't work well for MMA...your pics are gonna all be blurry or really grainy.
2/16/09 3:34 PM
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 I'll probably try to mostly focus on a lot of backstage stuff then for now as opposed to action shots. What can I do? :(
2/16/09 4:45 PM
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Get a used DSLR for the same price! :P
2/16/09 10:54 PM
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 Yeah, but isn't that risky? There's really no guarantee that the camera works, no? I've always been taught to never buy any electronics used, so I'm a little apprehensive about it...
2/19/09 8:53 AM
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Kostakio -  Yeah, but isn't that risky? There's really no guarantee that the camera works, no? I've always been taught to never buy any electronics used, so I'm a little apprehensive about it...



Go to www.fredmiranda.com and head to their forums.

This site is a great resource for equipment reviews and their used sale section is great. All users have ratings just like eBay and I've purchased items from there with no issues.

Please don't waste your time with a point-n-click, a used SLR with a stock lens will destroy a point-n-click any day. :)
2/19/09 9:11 AM
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http://www.amazon.com/Canon-10-1MP-Digital-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B001CBKJGG

You can pick up a Canon Rebel XS, a solid camera for beginners for only $510 shipped free. That comes with a lens.

I would highly suggest you add a UV filter for the lens.
2/24/09 7:25 PM
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What's a good lens you'd recommend for an XSi? The kit lens is kinda...yeah.

I was thinking something like a 80-200mm and/or a faster prime lens (is there a good counterpart to the 50mm/1.8 you guys mentioned for nikons)?
2/24/09 7:38 PM
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(not sure what the focal lengths on the zoom are - something in that ballpark) I've got the 18 - 55 kit lens already - 70-200? Dunno.
2/24/09 10:39 PM
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cluster - What's a good lens you'd recommend for an XSi? The kit lens is kinda...yeah.

I was thinking something like a 80-200mm and/or a faster prime lens (is there a good counterpart to the 50mm/1.8 you guys mentioned for nikons)?



Are you looking to shoot MMA?

The 70-200mm f2.8 L is a work of art but it comes at a price. You can get a non-image stabilized version for about $750-900 used. New for a little over $1000.

The 50mm f1.8 is an awesome lens but it's not for MMA in the long run IMO. A 80mm or 100mm f2.8 would be a better fit if you're going prime.

In MMA, you really can't shoot with anything less than a f4.0 lens. Lens have to be fast to let in all the light. f4.0 would probably give you fits at a smaller show with the lighting is less than adequate. At a UFC or WEC, f4.0 is fine because of the nice tungsten lighting.
2/25/09 8:56 PM
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I was just looking for a couple of lenses for general use - I'm sure I'll shoot fights sooner or later.....

There aren't cheaper 70-200 lenses? I suppose it'll be the hell of a lot slower....
3/3/09 10:36 PM
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cluster - I was just looking for a couple of lenses for general use - I'm sure I'll shoot fights sooner or later.....

There aren't cheaper 70-200 lenses? I suppose it'll be the hell of a lot slower....

 You can get cheaper F/4-5.6 lens which are good for well light conditions...like outside or with a flash. You can't use a flash in MMA and you probably won't be outside unless K-1 holds another outdoor event.

I have a Nikon 55-200mm F/4-5.6 VR which can be had for around $250...but that's not so great without flash.

Also, unless you have a full-frame sensor DSLR (Nikon D700/D3 or the Canon 5D for example), you are looking a 1.5x magnification with your lenses. So your 50mm becomes a 75mm and your 70mm becomes 105mm.

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