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3/9/09 12:37 AM
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Bort McAllister
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I've got a friend who works out quite a bit. He's 180 lbs and can bench 350 lbs. He's really impressive at the gym. Well, I gave him a call and asked if he could help me move a few months ago. I had some big furniture that I needed help with. He offered to come over and help, and it was to my surprise that he could barely lift the stuff. I have a big screen TV, and I lifted my end up perfectly, and he was struggling to even keep his grip on his end. When we were walking, I was holding on and walking just fine, and he was sweating, taking these little baby steps with the TV. I had to ask if he needed to put it down for a minute.

There was a bunch of stuff he struggled with, and he's a really fit guy, and has incredible work ethic at the gym. He squats over 400 lbs, so I know his legs aren't weak.  This isn't the first time I've seen guys like this. I'm the opposite. I grew up lifting stuff. When I was younger, my uncle had a company called the "Tree Recyclers" where he'd cut down peoples trees and recycle them. I use to help him out when he'd go on calls. He taught he how to cut wood, how to use an axe at a young age, and would have me help him haul the wood to his truck. I grew up doing that kind of stuff for him. 

I've never been overly strong at the gym though. I'm 200 lbs, and I can bench about 250 on a good day, and that's if I've been working out for a while. I'm fairly strong, but I'm certainly not some incredible physical speciman at the gym. I mostly go to the gym to stay in shape, but my lifts aren't overly impressive or anything.

Does anyone know why some people are like this, and like my friend who I described?
3/9/09 12:54 AM
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Does he use free weights or is he using machines? Using too many aids (machines that don't work stabilizers) and focusing on show muscles can leave you pretty weak functionally.

I work with a guy who deadlifts 450lbs with straps, but I can give him a knuckle crusher all day long. The grip isn't something that is impressive for a lot of people to see in action, and it's easy to ignore by using machines and straps.

He might've just been off/exhausted from lifting that day or injury as well.
3/9/09 12:56 AM
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i bet he woulda been able to bench that TV no problem.
3/9/09 12:59 AM
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Because the benching motion in general is useless as are most beach body lifts.

If you wanna be actually strong then you need a strength and conditioning program.
3/9/09 9:33 AM
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Moving requires some pain tolerance aswell IMO, not necessarily if you're able to lift a TV's weight, but can you stand that sharp edge digging into you when you pick it up etc.


I hate moving. Whatever the deal is with his strength, he's a real friend for helping you move.
3/9/09 9:39 AM
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I'm skinny and have always been one of the weakest guys in the weight room (on those rare occasions when I go to a weight room). But for some reason, I've always been able to lift and carry my end of the piano just fine, while other, seemingly much stronger, guys struggled with their end. I never understood that, but I always figured it probably had something to do with knowing your own body mechanics and understanding how to use your strength. If I can effectively use 80% of my strength and the other guy can only effectively use 50% of his, then I will end up looking functionally stronger than a lot of guys who are actually stronger than me.
3/9/09 9:40 AM
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tell him to do some clean and press
3/9/09 10:29 AM
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 My dad and I were moving some medical office stuff and got stuck on an examining table that had nothing whatsoever you could grab.

Eventually he relented and called a company who sent two guys over. One was a 200lb 20 year old Irish guy who was about 5'8. The other was a 40 year old drunk who was 160lbs.

My dad tried to explain to them what the deal with the table was and they acted like annoyed that we didnt just back off and let them do their thing. So the 40 year old dude starts just rocking the thing back and forth to get a feel for the weight then both of them just rip it off the ground with it tearing into the callouses on their hands and it was moved in no time.

Impressive to see people who perform their craft well.
3/9/09 10:35 AM
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HELWIG -  My dad and I were moving some medical office stuff and got stuck on an examining table that had nothing whatsoever you could grab.

Eventually he relented and called a company who sent two guys over. One was a 200lb 20 year old Irish guy who was about 5'8. The other was a 40 year old drunk who was 160lbs.

My dad tried to explain to them what the deal with the table was and they acted like annoyed that we didnt just back off and let them do their thing. So the 40 year old dude starts just rocking the thing back and forth to get a feel for the weight then both of them just rip it off the ground with it tearing into the callouses on their hands and it was moved in no time.

Impressive to see people who perform their craft well.





lol 40 year old drunk.
3/9/09 10:36 AM
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Tell him to do Kettlenetics.
3/9/09 10:36 AM
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I've been using a 15 lb kettle bell for about 6 months, doing basic stabilizer muscle lifts. Event things like holding your arm straight out and locking your elbow while the bottom of the bell is pointing forward.

I recently destroyed a guy grappling who was always stronger than me in the past. It's amazing how a little weight made me feel so strong in the clinch and takedowns.
3/9/09 10:38 AM
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He's either uncoordinated or weak in the gripping muscles, traps and lower back. He probably has short limbs giving him a significant leverage advantage which allows him to lift heavy but still feel relatively weak.

Citing his squat (which is probably not to depth) and his bench as proof of his strength doesn't tell the whole story. Having said that, you will rarely find a guy with average to long limb length with big numbers on the bench, full squat and deadlift, who isn't strong once he learns to use his body for the specific demand (whether it's lifting furniture or grappling).
3/9/09 10:47 AM
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If you put a kettle bell in your living room, you'll start doing sets anytime you watch tv. That shit adds up!
3/9/09 10:51 AM
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Functional Strength...

I know plenty of ppl like this. Me and my bro's lifting partner is like this. He's 5'9" 200lbs and been lifting for 4+ years. He's as weak as a kitten when it comes to functional athletic movements...
3/9/09 11:14 AM
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there could be a few possible reasons;

1) his lifting regime may be overly specialised and he might not lift a lot in other areas. T

2) he may be using shitty form or range of movement to get those numbers

3) like a lot of people who don't play physical sports or do a lot of physical jobs he may just not know how to apply his strength yet. I've trained with a few guys who were monsters in the gym but felt relatively weak on the mat when they first started training. They were always guys who came from strictly lifting backgrounds and didn't have much contact sport experience. However those that kept their egos in check and kept on training quickly adapted and learned how to use their power.

functional strength just means knowing how to apply your strength for a given situation. It's a skill that needs to be learned
3/9/09 12:25 PM
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Try checking the plates on the bar. The poser probably has the plastic ones, filled with nothing, on each side.

You've been scammed.

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