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6/4/09 12:11 PM
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 Former All Black Justin Marshall has called for an ANZAC representative side to come together and tour every four years in a similar vein to the British and Irish Lions. Speaking in Sydney ahead of the Barbarians match against the Wallabies in which he will play, Marshall suggested that an ANZAC team could be the southern hemisphere equivalent of the Lions and would be just as attractive.

“Australians and New Zealanders together in an ANZAC format would be something that people would come and watch,” Marshall reasoned. “I’d go and watch it. It’s something that would really attract my interest even if I wasn’t involved.”

Wallabies coach Robbie Deans, who was Marshall’s coach at the Crusaders, supported the idea. “It’s something the players would enjoy, I’m sure,” Deans said. “It’s a thrill for a player to have an opportunity to gather with their peers from other nations and that opportunity in the professional era isn’t as frequent. You only have to see the way the players respond to the Lions opportunity. It’s something they treasure.”
However, Deans suggested the touring team would need to include players from Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. “It would probably need to be more than two,” Deans surmised. “The whole three, Southern hemisphere, but ANZAC would be good.”

With the centenary of the ANZAC Gallipoli landing approaching in 2015, such a touring side warrants further thought and discussion.

An ANZAC side would steam roll through the NH.
6/6/09 11:39 AM
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Lol hardly - the beauty and challenge of a tour during the professional era is trying to create a competitive scratch team.

Irrespective of the talent of individual players, its not simply a case of just putting the 15 most talented individuals in the same team and expecting them to be the best team in the world.

Besides the lions is not a NH team, its a british isles team
6/6/09 11:40 AM
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At the end of the day if the SH is so amazing, why, with the exception of the boks, do they get raped in tournament siutations by the NH teams??

Look at the last 2 world cups for examples
6/7/09 6:05 AM
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LMFAO!!!!!

5 of the 6 World Cups have been won by southern hemisphere teams.

Learn to savour your solitary victory the same way you fondly look back to the 1966 Soccer World Cup.
6/7/09 3:08 PM
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Pah the only three that should count are the three in the professional era.

Kiwis basically only won the first one as they were so far ahead of everyone else at the time.

They are the perrenial chokers in the professional era though and havent even made the final for 14 years

NH rapes SH in the World Cup - fact ;o)
6/8/09 12:07 AM
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The Lions are the only northern hemisphere team to be competitive with the southern elite.
6/8/09 12:09 AM
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IrishFighter110 -  the all blacks days of dominance are coming to an end soon. Ireland, Wales, Scotland, England and France are all builing teams that are incredibly athletic.




Ireland and Scotaland have never beaten the All Blacks ever.

The last time Wales won was in the 60s.
7/19/09 10:29 PM
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Squatdog - The Lions are the only northern hemisphere team to be competitive with the southern elite.
In 2005 the British and Irish Lions rugby union team toured New Zealand for the first time since 1993, suffering a 3–0 whitewash at the hands of the New Zealand All Blacks. It was the first time for 22 years that the Lions lost every test match on tour.
 
7/20/09 1:21 AM
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If it wasn't for Jenkin's boot in the 1997 South African tour, they would have lost that too.
7/20/09 3:31 AM
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Squatdog - If it wasn't for Jenkin's boot in the 1997 South African tour, they would have lost that too.


Lol - I love it when the southern lot always bring excuses up like this.

"If it wasnt for you kicking more points than us we would have won"

"If it wasnt for you scoring more tries than us we would have won"

"If it wasnt for you scoring more points than us we would have won"
7/20/09 5:34 AM
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LOL...they barely won the series, which was the ONLY series the Lions won since the 80s!

The Springboks scored more tries in two of the tests (three to none in the second test) and it was only the kicking of Jenkins that let the kick-and-clap northern hemisphere play style scrape through.
7/20/09 5:34 AM
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7/20/09 9:31 AM
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So by your rationale the similarly lower scoring Springboks of the recent series also didnt deserve to win?
7/21/09 12:59 AM
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The Springboks scored tries in both 'real' tests, then got on the piss for the next two weeks becauase they had already won the series.
7/23/09 1:39 AM
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Rugby World Cup is like the Pride Grand Prix, its just a tournament, it dosnt mean you're the best in the world it just means you won a tournament. The best in the world is New Zealand and pretty much will always be New Zealand. Being ranked #1 for 4 years then losing 1 tournament game dosnt mean you're shit.Bit biased, but it's the truth. T

here are no teams with better stats. None. Lets face it the only trophies worth anything are the Tri-Nations and Bledisloe cup.
7/23/09 10:19 AM
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GrotesK - Rugby World Cup is like the Pride Grand Prix, its just a tournament, it dosnt mean you're the best in the world it just means you won a tournament. The best in the world is New Zealand and pretty much will always be New Zealand. Being ranked #1 for 4 years then losing 1 tournament game dosnt mean you're shit.Bit biased, but it's the truth. T

here are no teams with better stats. None. Lets face it the only trophies worth anything are the Tri-Nations and Bledisloe cup.


Lol you have to be a kiwi. Sorry but you cannot excuse away terrible choking like that!

Squat - you crack me up. I pretty much agree with everything you normally post round here, but god damn I dont think we will ever agree on a rugby related thread ;o)

(obvious exceptions being NFL v Rugby threads)
7/24/09 8:10 PM
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Yeah we choked, but it dosnt dismiss the fact we beat the world cup winners twice that season.
7/25/09 5:50 AM
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So? In pressure tournament rugby the kiwis = France's prison bitch
8/1/09 9:38 PM
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GrotesK - Rugby World Cup is like the Pride Grand Prix, its just a tournament, it dosnt mean you're the best in the world it just means you won a tournament. The best in the world is New Zealand and pretty much will always be New Zealand. Being ranked #1 for 4 years then losing 1 tournament game dosnt mean you're shit.Bit biased, but it's the truth. T

here are no teams with better stats. None. Lets face it the only trophies worth anything are the Tri-Nations and Bledisloe cup.


I'm an All Black fan and much prefer SH rugby, and even I think this post reeks of homerism.
9/9/09 5:28 PM
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Being ahead for most of the game and then finishing with less points doesn't mean you won the game. You still lost.

Similarly being ranked no1 for years at a time and then losing in the big tournament doesn't mean you're the best. It just means you're best when other people don't care about being best.
9/9/09 8:59 PM
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Winning 5 out of 6 World Cups and routinely raping northern hemisphere teams in embarrassingly one-sided fashion tends to indicate that southern hemisphere rugby is better.
9/10/09 12:04 AM
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Not winning world cups since the inaugural and routinely getting raped by northern hemisphere teams in the world cups tend to indicate that the all blacks are a brand and not a proper rugby team.

The All Blacks - the Harlem Globetrotters of rugby
9/10/09 12:14 AM
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By 'raped' you mean losing by a very close margin to France on two whole occasions?

More like England's embarrassing 19% win rate against the All Blacks or Scotland and Ireland never having beaten the All Blacks ever.

Wales look back to their last win in the 1960s the same way England will look back to their solitary fluke World Cup win.
9/10/09 6:24 PM
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"Winning 5 out of 6 World Cups"

The all blacks have won 5 out of 6 world cups now?

That's news to me. Here was me thinking they hadn't won it since the 80's...
9/10/09 7:54 PM
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The superior southern hemisphere teams have won 5 out of 6.

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