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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
I can't say that I've ever met a 6'3", 250#, ex-marine, that's a purple (soon to be brown) belt in BJJ, that just so happens to be a big pussy, but if some random Internet nerd says so, I guess I have to believe!

You should show up to his gym and film it!! I'm sure the beating that you would put onthat fat, pussy would be legendary! Phone Post
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TheTFC - Wtf. I missed a lot about this story. So, after the whole Darrow thing calmed down, someone found out the mmaguy had been exaggerating about his fight record? Then he was supposed to fight someone and tucked? Is that correct? Phone Post
MMAGuy was going after Darrow for claiming to be an undefeated prison fighter... While at the same time claiming to be an undefeated marine base fighter.

He demanded Darrow provide specific information about all his prison fights yet can offer none on his marine base fights including the number of fights he had on said base.

Both are 0-1 in confirmed fights,

Darrow challenged MMAGuy to a fight for questioning his likely fabricated past...which MMAGuy accepted then continued to add stipulations until he finally tucked.

MMAGuy has in turn challenged everyone who has questioned him on his likely fabricated past to "roll" with him.

At the end of the thread we are left with two guys with virtually identical records/back stories /personalities and propensities to tuck/avoid confirmed fights Phone Post
Excellent summery sir Phone Post
You sir are awesome Phone Post

Interesting. If MMAGuy is a complete fraud... well, think about this: all these other frauds created elaborate hoax identities because they want to revel in the adulation and respect they would receive, but MMAguy has been receiving adulation and respect by going AFTER the phonies... but may be a phony himself.

Psychologically twisted. I like it.

Holy shit this thread just got an M. Night ShalaAmber Lamps movie ending.
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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
I can't say that I've ever met a 6'3", 250#, ex-marine, that's a purple (soon to be brown) belt in BJJ, that just so happens to be a big pussy, but if some random Internet nerd says so, I guess I have to believe!

You should show up to his gym and film it!! I'm sure the beating that you would put onthat fat, pussy would be legendary! Phone Post
Internet tough gutted are all talk he would never dream of doing that! Phone Post
3/28/13 8:10 PM
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Can I get a 30-word summary of this whole thread?

This.... Phone Post
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Can I get a 30-word summary of this whole thread?

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Homie be sayin he be undefeated prison fighter, started mma school, den the UG be like FU, Darrow show up at funaro gym, street fight happen and he get F'ed up. Dey agree to real fight, darrow be trippin all cracked out and get KTFO
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3/29/13 12:28 AM
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TheTFC - Wtf. I missed a lot about this story. So, after the whole Darrow thing calmed down, someone found out the mmaguy had been exaggerating about his fight record? Then he was supposed to fight someone and tucked? Is that correct? Phone Post
MMAGuy was going after Darrow for claiming to be an undefeated prison fighter... While at the same time claiming to be an undefeated marine base fighter.

He demanded Darrow provide specific information about all his prison fights yet can offer none on his marine base fights including the number of fights he had on said base.

Both are 0-1 in confirmed fights,

Darrow challenged MMAGuy to a fight for questioning his likely fabricated past...which MMAGuy accepted then continued to add stipulations until he finally tucked.

MMAGuy has in turn challenged everyone who has questioned him on his likely fabricated past to "roll" with him.

At the end of the thread we are left with two guys with virtually identical records/back stories /personalities and propensities to tuck/avoid confirmed fights Phone Post

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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
I can't say that I've ever met a 6'3", 250#, ex-marine, that's a purple (soon to be brown) belt in BJJ, that just so happens to be a big pussy, but if some random Internet nerd says so, I guess I have to believe!

You should show up to his gym and film it!! I'm sure the beating that you would put onthat fat, pussy would be legendary! Phone Post
IIRC MMAGUY Was called out by Darrow , MMAGUY responded by saying " yes ill fight you if you do these 10 things" which was basically providing evidence to prove what he claimed and a pee pee taste announcement post fight.
Darrow ignored the 10 points and just acted like MMAGUY agrees to fight him. After a few weeks of funny videos and no agreement or facts from Darrow re the 10 points MMAGUY stated that he was not going to fly to New York to fight a crack head who wouldn't show up and hadn't agreed to provide evidence for his claims or agreed the pee pee taste announcement.

Not exactly a tuck but then again this is the UG so logic and common sense do not always prevail . Phone Post
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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
I can't say that I've ever met a 6'3", 250#, ex-marine, that's a purple (soon to be brown) belt in BJJ, that just so happens to be a big pussy, but if some random Internet nerd says so, I guess I have to believe!

You should show up to his gym and film it!! I'm sure the beating that you would put onthat fat, pussy would be legendary! Phone Post
IIRC MMAGUY Was called out by Darrow , MMAGUY responded by saying " yes ill fight you if you do these 10 things" which was basically providing evidence to prove what he claimed and a pee pee taste announcement post fight.
Darrow ignored the 10 points and just acted like MMAGUY agrees to fight him. After a few weeks of funny videos and no agreement or facts from Darrow re the 10 points MMAGUY stated that he was not going to fly to New York to fight a crack head who wouldn't show up and hadn't agreed to provide evidence for his claims or agreed the pee pee taste announcement.

Not exactly a tuck but then again this is the UG so logic and common sense do not always prevail . Phone Post
Good points but you forgot to mention all the no shows that Darrow had before he finally showed up cracked out of his mind...THEN..he no showed the Bobby Cambell (I think that was his name) fight as well, which was promoted and had CD at the press conferences and everything. As I said before, I guess MMAGUY was Negrofuckindaumas as that's exactly what he predicted would happen. But as you mentioned, by UG logic it would have made sense for mmaguy to drop his whole life to get on a plane in hopes that CD would actually show up. Phone Post
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DeuceDroppin -  Regarding any tucking..I guess mmaguy is negrofuckingdaumas because he said up front that after he thought about things, he decided it wouldn't be a good idea as Darrow would just tuck. And what did Darrow do? He fucking tucked on several occasions. The time he did show up he was cracked out of his fucking mind. Yes I bet all of you keyboard tough guys would have just dropped your life to go train..get on an airplane and fly several states away..to hopefully fight some crackhead that may or may not show up. Makes perfect sense! Mmaguy is a 6'3", 250# purple belt. I'm guessing the guy is pretty fucking tough. Why don't you people that are questioning him fly out to go train with him like he has offered so many times? I'm pretty sure that I even remember him offering to pay on several occasions. Please do that and report back to us how it goes. Phone Post

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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
I can't say that I've ever met a 6'3", 250#, ex-marine, that's a purple (soon to be brown) belt in BJJ, that just so happens to be a big pussy, but if some random Internet nerd says so, I guess I have to believe!

You should show up to his gym and film it!! I'm sure the beating that you would put onthat fat, pussy would be legendary! Phone Post
IIRC MMAGUY Was called out by Darrow , MMAGUY responded by saying " yes ill fight you if you do these 10 things" which was basically providing evidence to prove what he claimed and a pee pee taste announcement post fight.
Darrow ignored the 10 points and just acted like MMAGUY agrees to fight him. After a few weeks of funny videos and no agreement or facts from Darrow re the 10 points MMAGUY stated that he was not going to fly to New York to fight a crack head who wouldn't show up and hadn't agreed to provide evidence for his claims or agreed the pee pee taste announcement.

Not exactly a tuck but then again this is the UG so logic and common sense do not always prevail . Phone Post

LOL not even remotley true. Darrow answered his questions. MMAguy didn't think it was specific enough. MMaguy would basically not accept any general answers. Although he can give NO SPECIFICS on ANY of his own fabricated "fights" he previously had represented on his record.

HE will give you NO dates, NO times, NO event names, NO info on CSAC involvment, No Opponent names other than the something generic such as "Butts" which is the same thing Darrow would do. He even forgot how many people he fought on the base. No names of the Officers or people who were in charge of organizing/ approving the fights or thier posts. All of which could be very easily verified...infact I know many former marines stationed there at that time who would have been highly interested in competing or watching.

I find it hard to believe that if none of those qualifiers took place that a guy as informed and knowledgble about combat sports as MMAguy is would ever interpret his fights as appropriate to put on his record.

He also added stips to the Darrow fight after the fact. He demanded a blood work due to "inside" information from prison gaurds about Darrow having gay sex and possible HIV infection and a bond. Which Darrow responded to and agreed to both.

Another excuse after the fact was that he was not going to fight if Darrow couldnt get himself all the way up to 220...which would have been impossible. Fuzzy pointed that fact out and reminded him the fight sould be non sanctioned so it wouldnt matter.

Then he pulled out not mentining any of the reasons above he basically saying its not worth it and basically admitting was going to be precived as a tuck. He later brought up that he had a vacation planned. I'm not saying he didn't I just dont get why when the date was first thrown out he jumped and said WORKS FOR ME!

To be honest the only stipulation that Darrow didnt agree to was the Pee Pee taste thing...thats what Dreamer and others were wondering was going to stop the fight.

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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
I can't say that I've ever met a 6'3", 250#, ex-marine, that's a purple (soon to be brown) belt in BJJ, that just so happens to be a big pussy, but if some random Internet nerd says so, I guess I have to believe!

You should show up to his gym and film it!! I'm sure the beating that you would put onthat fat, pussy would be legendary! Phone Post
IIRC MMAGUY Was called out by Darrow , MMAGUY responded by saying " yes ill fight you if you do these 10 things" which was basically providing evidence to prove what he claimed and a pee pee taste announcement post fight.
Darrow ignored the 10 points and just acted like MMAGUY agrees to fight him. After a few weeks of funny videos and no agreement or facts from Darrow re the 10 points MMAGUY stated that he was not going to fly to New York to fight a crack head who wouldn't show up and hadn't agreed to provide evidence for his claims or agreed the pee pee taste announcement.

Not exactly a tuck but then again this is the UG so logic and common sense do not always prevail . Phone Post

LOL not even remotley true. Darrow answered his questions. MMAguy didn't think it was specific enough. MMaguy would basically not accept any general answers. Although he can give NO SPECIFICS on ANY of his own fabricated "fights" he previously had represented on his record.

HE will give you NO dates, NO times, NO event names, NO info on CSAC involvment, No Opponent names other than the something generic such as "Butts" which is the same thing Darrow would do. He even forgot how many people he fought on the base. No names of the Officers or people who were in charge of organizing/ approving the fights or thier posts. All of which could be very easily verified...infact I know many former marines stationed there at that time who would have been highly interested in competing or watching.

I find it hard to believe that if none of those qualifiers took place that a guy as informed and knowledgble about combat sports as MMAguy is would ever interpret his fights as appropriate to put on his record.

He also added stips to the Darrow fight after the fact. He demanded a blood work due to "inside" information from prison gaurds about Darrow having gay sex and possible HIV infection and a bond. Which Darrow responded to and agreed to both.

Another excuse after the fact was that he was not going to fight if Darrow couldnt get himself all the way up to 220...which would have been impossible. Fuzzy pointed that fact out and reminded him the fight sould be non sanctioned so it wouldnt matter.

Then he pulled out not mentining any of the reasons above he basically saying its not worth it and basically admitting was going to be precived as a tuck. He later brought up that he had a vacation planned. I'm not saying he didn't I just dont get why when the date was first thrown out he jumped and said WORKS FOR ME!

To be honest the only stipulation that Darrow didnt agree to was the Pee Pee taste thing...thats what Dreamer and others were wondering was going to stop the fight.


Even if everything you say were true (and at least we know this guy was at CZ20 fighting), Darrow was trying to run a gym and a fight league under his pretenses.

It's the difference between me telling people I'm an architect, and actually taking a contract to design a home.
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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
I can't say that I've ever met a 6'3", 250#, ex-marine, that's a purple (soon to be brown) belt in BJJ, that just so happens to be a big pussy, but if some random Internet nerd says so, I guess I have to believe!

You should show up to his gym and film it!! I'm sure the beating that you would put onthat fat, pussy would be legendary! Phone Post
IIRC MMAGUY Was called out by Darrow , MMAGUY responded by saying " yes ill fight you if you do these 10 things" which was basically providing evidence to prove what he claimed and a pee pee taste announcement post fight.
Darrow ignored the 10 points and just acted like MMAGUY agrees to fight him. After a few weeks of funny videos and no agreement or facts from Darrow re the 10 points MMAGUY stated that he was not going to fly to New York to fight a crack head who wouldn't show up and hadn't agreed to provide evidence for his claims or agreed the pee pee taste announcement.

Not exactly a tuck but then again this is the UG so logic and common sense do not always prevail . Phone Post

LOL not even remotley true. Darrow answered his questions. MMAguy didn't think it was specific enough. MMaguy would basically not accept any general answers. Although he can give NO SPECIFICS on ANY of his own fabricated "fights" he previously had represented on his record.

HE will give you NO dates, NO times, NO event names, NO info on CSAC involvment, No Opponent names other than the something generic such as "Butts" which is the same thing Darrow would do. He even forgot how many people he fought on the base. No names of the Officers or people who were in charge of organizing/ approving the fights or thier posts. All of which could be very easily verified...infact I know many former marines stationed there at that time who would have been highly interested in competing or watching.

I find it hard to believe that if none of those qualifiers took place that a guy as informed and knowledgble about combat sports as MMAguy is would ever interpret his fights as appropriate to put on his record.

He also added stips to the Darrow fight after the fact. He demanded a blood work due to "inside" information from prison gaurds about Darrow having gay sex and possible HIV infection and a bond. Which Darrow responded to and agreed to both.

Another excuse after the fact was that he was not going to fight if Darrow couldnt get himself all the way up to 220...which would have been impossible. Fuzzy pointed that fact out and reminded him the fight sould be non sanctioned so it wouldnt matter.

Then he pulled out not mentining any of the reasons above he basically saying its not worth it and basically admitting was going to be precived as a tuck. He later brought up that he had a vacation planned. I'm not saying he didn't I just dont get why when the date was first thrown out he jumped and said WORKS FOR ME!

To be honest the only stipulation that Darrow didnt agree to was the Pee Pee taste thing...thats what Dreamer and others were wondering was going to stop the fight.

Can you post /quote Darrows answers to the 10 questions please I can't find them . Phone Post
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We need a Darrow sighting ASAP.

We should throw some money together and get all these MMA rejects to fight each other in a single elimination tournament.

Imagine: Darrow, Todd Kenueke, Matt Malice, Dave Lang, That old guy with the MMA fence tattooed on his back, and Jam Man all fighting each other.

This would be the best use of UG funds ever! Hell even if 4 of them show, that would be a sick little tourney.
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Guys MMA guy is pretty legit in BJJ and doesn't claim a fake black belt! I personally wouldn't have travelled half way across America to fight a crack head he would no show either! Phone Post

he's still the biggest pussy on the forum
I can't say that I've ever met a 6'3", 250#, ex-marine, that's a purple (soon to be brown) belt in BJJ, that just so happens to be a big pussy, but if some random Internet nerd says so, I guess I have to believe!

You should show up to his gym and film it!! I'm sure the beating that you would put onthat fat, pussy would be legendary! Phone Post
IIRC MMAGUY Was called out by Darrow , MMAGUY responded by saying " yes ill fight you if you do these 10 things" which was basically providing evidence to prove what he claimed and a pee pee taste announcement post fight.
Darrow ignored the 10 points and just acted like MMAGUY agrees to fight him. After a few weeks of funny videos and no agreement or facts from Darrow re the 10 points MMAGUY stated that he was not going to fly to New York to fight a crack head who wouldn't show up and hadn't agreed to provide evidence for his claims or agreed the pee pee taste announcement.

Not exactly a tuck but then again this is the UG so logic and common sense do not always prevail . Phone Post

LOL not even remotley true. Darrow answered his questions. MMAguy didn't think it was specific enough. MMaguy would basically not accept any general answers. Although he can give NO SPECIFICS on ANY of his own fabricated "fights" he previously had represented on his record.

HE will give you NO dates, NO times, NO event names, NO info on CSAC involvment, No Opponent names other than the something generic such as "Butts" which is the same thing Darrow would do. He even forgot how many people he fought on the base. No names of the Officers or people who were in charge of organizing/ approving the fights or thier posts. All of which could be very easily verified...infact I know many former marines stationed there at that time who would have been highly interested in competing or watching.

I find it hard to believe that if none of those qualifiers took place that a guy as informed and knowledgble about combat sports as MMAguy is would ever interpret his fights as appropriate to put on his record.

He also added stips to the Darrow fight after the fact. He demanded a blood work due to "inside" information from prison gaurds about Darrow having gay sex and possible HIV infection and a bond. Which Darrow responded to and agreed to both.

Another excuse after the fact was that he was not going to fight if Darrow couldnt get himself all the way up to 220...which would have been impossible. Fuzzy pointed that fact out and reminded him the fight sould be non sanctioned so it wouldnt matter.

Then he pulled out not mentining any of the reasons above he basically saying its not worth it and basically admitting was going to be precived as a tuck. He later brought up that he had a vacation planned. I'm not saying he didn't I just dont get why when the date was first thrown out he jumped and said WORKS FOR ME!

To be honest the only stipulation that Darrow didnt agree to was the Pee Pee taste thing...thats what Dreamer and others were wondering was going to stop the fight.


Even if everything you say were true (and at least we know this guy was at CZ20 fighting), Darrow was trying to run a gym and a fight league under his pretenses.

It's the difference between me telling people I'm an architect, and actually taking a contract to design a home.
I agree to some extent. But what claims was he making up about himself to run the gym... "That he was an undefeated prison fighter and the #1 ranked superfighter of an organization he owned that had put on 0 shows. If you signed up at a gym based on some guy claiming he was undefeated in prison fights... I'd say you deserve the lack of instruction you are given. I'd say the same thing about a company handing out sponsorships with no due dillegence.

The real issue the UG had with Darrow was that his undefeated record was bullshit and couldn't be substantiated... That he was unqualified to teach "Real Fighting". And for being an asshat and calling out Jamie Varner.

Well if you want to stand on your soap box and beat your chest at someone for making up a record they can't substantiate... You should prob not be presenting yourself as a professional fighter with 4-6 wins when you are really 0-1. Ya dig? Phone Post
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I'm such a dick tucking faggy wimp.

anyway...
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mmaguy30 - I'm such a dick tucking faggy wimp.

anyway...
You were selling wolf tickets all along. Had me fooled. Phone Post 3.0
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mmaguy30 - I'm such a dick tucking faggy wimp.

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You were selling wolf tickets all along. Had me fooled. Phone Post 3.0
lol (sorry, mmaguy, don't vote me down; "wolf tickets" gets me every time)! Phone Post 3.0
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lol... VTFU Kos.
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LOl @ Wolf Tickets. Until I heard Nick say it, it had been about 20 years since I heard the black guys say it. I was a kid back then. Nick brought it back!
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I'm the same age as Nick so it makes sense.
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mmaguy30 - lol... VTFU Kos.
Thanks, man. I reciprocated! <3 Phone Post 3.0

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