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12/7/09 11:36 PM
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“I’m on suspension. I think Bob [Cook] has most control of it, letting me back in the gym,” said Buentello, who returns to the Ultimate Fighting Championship on Dec. 12.

According to the fighter and his long-time trainer and friend, Dave Velasquez of Nor Cal Fight Factory, the dispute arose when Buentello replaced Cook with a new manager.“I’ve always came to this crossroads, if I ever go back to the UFC, I gotta have somebody on board that’s gonna sell me like I’m the best thing since sliced bread,” said Buentello. The native Texan believes that someone is Elis Pacheco of New York-based Dedos Marketing Group, which has worked with Ice-T, Fat Joe and Beyonce Knowles.

“You just get that vibe, you know? That he’s out for your best interest no matter what and he doesn’t care about pushing the limits,” he said. “He’s gonna get the deal done.”

“I’ve been there a long time,” said Buentello. “That’s my home. It sucks, it sucks, it sucks that I can’t go home for a little bit.”

Cook, Buentello’s former manager and trainer, declined comment.

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12/7/09 11:41 PM
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Wow ..... amazing how business & personal feeling intermix at AKA.
12/7/09 11:43 PM
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 Wow...I hope he still performs at his best. Paul is very exciting
12/7/09 11:48 PM
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Paul "Tetonka" Buentello is a gamer. He will come to fight PERIOD.

"Tetonka" by KO midway thru the second!!
12/7/09 11:55 PM
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The fans demand Roy Nelson vs Paul Buentello!!!
12/7/09 11:56 PM
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12/7/09 11:58 PM
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Bobby Southworth - Paul "Tetonka" Buentello is a gamer. He will come to fight PERIOD.

"Tetonka" by KO midway thru the second!!
Damn Bobby, I didn't know you had an account here. What are you doing here; slumming?

lol
12/8/09 12:00 AM
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Monsters Ball - Buentello vs Kimbo!!!
he'd smoke Kimbo
12/8/09 12:06 AM
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I think it's called "Lurking"!! lol

How can I "Slum". I'm just a regular guy who tried his hand at fighting, and had some Minor success!!
12/8/09 12:12 AM
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Well I guess you wont be on the next TUF now that they're doing middleweights eh?

How cool would've it been to be on Chucks team again? lol
12/8/09 12:18 AM
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Honestly, Crazy Bob wears too many hats. I know he's no longer officially the matchmaker for Strikeforce, but I kinda doubt he's not pulling a lot of strings there. Since the promotion is no longer just a regional player, I have to think there is some conflict of interest. I'm not saying he's acting on that conflict or doing anything innappropriate: I'm not there so, I don't know, but appearences can make a strong statement on their own.

That said, War King Paul!

12/8/09 12:23 AM
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12/8/09 2:14 AM
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You mean, cut one of my F---ing Legs off. LOL

Then how would I fight???
12/8/09 3:16 AM
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Bobby Southworth - You mean, cut one of my F---ing Legs off. LOL

Then how would I fight???


Cut both of your legs off and you could fight Kyle Maynard. Or OMA.
12/8/09 3:29 AM
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Bobby Southworth - I think it's called "Lurking"!! lol

How can I "Slum". I'm just a regular guy who tried his hand at fighting, and had some Minor success!!


so youre done with fighting? that sucks
12/8/09 4:32 AM
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ECWCock -  Bobby, cut down to middleweight and get back on TUF!




Id pay to see Bobby fight Leben .

 The UFC is crazy for not doing this at a catchweight already.
12/8/09 4:46 AM
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 Bunentello is just further proof that the Heavyweight division is by far the most awful thing in MMA.

He's 35, slow, sloppy and unevolved as a fighter. He won't ever be a champion or top contendor. Ranked just inside the top 40 and hasnt beaten a top 50 figher since a 2003 win over Bobby Hoffman.

His biggest win since his UFC stint has been over "Baby Fedor" (4-3-0). A very over-rated fighter who despite his inexperince and size still took him 3 rounds and abosrbed all of his shots.  

He is 5 - 1 since a last UFC stint with 2 of the fighter he beaten having losing records and one a .500 fighter. 2 wins over opponets with winning records.  

He 5 combined wins has a record of   54 - 54 - 4

His only use would be as cannon fodder for up and coming talent like J Dos Santos 
12/8/09 4:56 AM
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Zedlepln - 

Honestly, Crazy Bob wears too many hats. I know he's no longer officially the matchmaker for Strikeforce, but I kinda doubt he's not pulling a lot of strings there. Since the promotion is no longer just a regional player, I have to think there is some conflict of interest. I'm not saying he's acting on that conflict or doing anything innappropriate: I'm not there so, I don't know, but appearences can make a strong statement on their own.


He's in exactly the same position with Strikeforce that he was before. Rich Chou's hiring changed absolutely nothing, aside from adding Rich as an additional matchmaker. Rich stated himself in at least one major interview that Bob was still a prominent figure in the matchmaking. If he hadn't done that, I probably wouldn't talk about it publicly, but I witnessed it for myself in person in Tulsa.

That is why some fighters who are new to MMA and train at AKA receive spots on Strikeforce cards that they may not otherwise receive. It's one of the few significant issues that I have with the promotion, and more so because Rich's hiring was supposed to smooth things over after people got mad about Bob's involvement earlier this year.

joe bruce - Sounds like Cook is commingling his business ventures and coercing them at the same time.

As far as I know, he is an incredible coach and AKA is an extremely successful camp. However, if the UFC suddenly hired one of the head trainers from Xtreme Couture or American Top Team to do matchmaking for them and you started seeing 0-0 XC or ATT guys debuting on UFC main cards, people would totally freak out.

That's exactly what is happening in Strikeforce.

I think that Paul's decision to work with a specialised marketing agent was a good one.
12/8/09 6:21 AM
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What 0-0 AKA guys are on main cards in StrikeForce?
12/8/09 6:33 AM
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Bobby Southworth - I think it's called "Lurking"!! lol

How can I "Slum". I'm just a regular guy who tried his hand at fighting, and had some Minor success!!

 You were a champion, hardly minor success Mr. Humble
12/8/09 6:35 AM
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ECWCock -  Bobby, cut down to middleweight and get back on TUF!




Id pay to see Bobby fight Leben .

 



As a self admitted TUF noob the "fatherless bastard" thing made us all want to fight him.

 That has already been addressed on here by Bobby, quite eloquently. Dead issue.
12/8/09 6:43 AM
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In today's MMA landscape, you cannot be a trainer and a manager. Especially when you have a large stable of fighters, there are not enough hours in the day to handle it.

GSP is the best marketed fighter in the world. He has a seperate manager from his fight team and says he is able to concentrate on fighting and fighting alone. Never worries about contracts, sponsorships etc. He is sponsored by Gatorade and Under Armour, it is working pretty well for him!

I have a feeling AKA is setting itself up for a big breakup. Lets see Buentello head to Jacksons and some of the WW's break ranks! The WW division would get much more interesting.
12/8/09 6:55 AM
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suioryu - What 0-0 AKA guys are on main cards in StrikeForce?

Most recently, Daniel Cormier (Strikeforce Challengers 3) and Herschel Walker (January 30th Showtime card). There are numerous other fighters with average/poor records who have competed on event undercards in the past, but that's not a big deal because they use regional guys to fill out undercards for nearly every show. It's the main card spots that are more pertinent.
12/8/09 7:09 AM
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suioryu - What 0-0 AKA guys are on main cards in StrikeForce?

Most recently, Daniel Cormier (Strikeforce Challengers 3) and Herschel Walker (January 30th Showtime card). There are numerous other fighters with average/poor records who have competed on event undercards in the past, but that's not a big deal because they use regional guys to fill out undercards for nearly every show. It's the main card spots that are more pertinent.


Herschel Walker is getting a shot because he's Herschel Walker, not because of any ties with AKA.

Could you name so more main card spots that were taken? And could you more narrowly define what is a main card spot?
12/8/09 7:43 AM
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 Rising,

I think your earlier PM to me makes more sense now=)

Let's see how this thing unfolds.

Cindy

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