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12/11/09 5:56 PM
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Did anyone else see the show Gangland on the history channel the other night, where the gang for that episode was called "Brown Pride"?
I had thought that the tattoo Cain Velasquez has on his chest was stating his personally feelings of pride for his race.  But after watching that show, I would be shocked if he wasn't a member of this gang.  They interviewed numerous members of the gang, and they all had a similar banner across their upper chest, just like Cain's.
Anyone one else see the episode, or anyone know for sure any past or current affiliation Cain has with them?
12/11/09 6:04 PM
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Its ok because he's not white. Apparently.
12/11/09 6:04 PM
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 I posted this info on numerous HR threads.  The hypocrisy here never ends.
12/11/09 7:31 PM
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theken206 - OK, lets go through this once agin...............

There are multiple "brown pride gangs" that ally them selves with the Nortenos and the Surenos, there are also stand alone BP gangs with no ties to either.

There is also a large BP "movement" that has nothing to do with street gangs and the like.

Who the fuck knows or cares where Cain falls into all of it. I sure dont.


Well whats the difference between that and the bands that wear HR and have some kind of white pride links?

HR was being criticised for exactly the same thing...because some people wearing their clothing are affiliated with some white pride movement.

Well...some people with Cain's brown pride tattoo are connected with street gangs...
12/11/09 7:35 PM
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White power groups not white pride groups. There are lots of groups celebrating the european heritage.

Anyone that tries to equate "brown pride" with a totalitarian regime that attempted to wipe out an entire race of people is being intellectually dishonest.
12/11/09 7:40 PM
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HereWeAre - White power groups not white pride groups. There are lots of groups celebrating the european heritage.

Anyone that tries to equate "brown pride" with a totalitarian regime that attempted to wipe out an entire race of people is being intellectually dishonest.


I see what you did there.
12/11/09 7:41 PM
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Cain is from Salinas,CA.... there is no brown pride gang in Salinas, but there is significant gang activity in Salinas which is between Surenos and Nortenos. If he were a gang member he'd either have a "Sur 13" tattoo or a "Norte 14" tattoo, now if he DID have one of those tattoos then you'd have an argument but he doesn't so shut the hell up.
12/11/09 7:41 PM
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maybe Cain went to Brown University? I too would be proud if I attended an ivy league school.
12/11/09 7:57 PM
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 Some idiot made this same thread yesterday...damn you people are dumb.
12/11/09 8:31 PM
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Jimmy Football - Cain is from Salinas,CA.... there is no brown pride gang in Salinas, but there is significant gang activity in Salinas which is between Surenos and Nortenos. If he were a gang member he'd either have a "Sur 13" tattoo or a "Norte 14" tattoo, now if he DID have one of those tattoos then you'd have an argument but he doesn't so shut the hell up.


and how on earth would you know that there are NO gangs associated with "brown Pride" in that city?

That area has a huge gang problem.
12/11/09 8:51 PM
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12/11/09 9:27 PM
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12/11/09 9:33 PM
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Good lord, I already answered this topic on the other threads. Some of you people are either dumb trolls and just dumb fucks. I'm thinking dumb fucks.
12/12/09 2:04 AM
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Jimmy Football - Cain is from Salinas,CA.... there is no brown pride gang in Salinas, but there is significant gang activity in Salinas which is between Surenos and Nortenos. If he were a gang member he'd either have a "Sur 13" tattoo or a "Norte 14" tattoo, now if he DID have one of those tattoos then you'd have an argument but he doesn't so shut the hell up.


Not saying that Cain bangs, but the brown pride gang u saw on gangland isn't the only one out there. Salinas, San Jose, and a lot of the surrounding cities where there are a lot of mexican tagging crews and gangs will all most likely have a Brown Pride click or just claim "brown pride". When i was in high school, i had friends that were from different norteno clicks and different tagging crews, but they all banged brown pride, and yes, brown pride as a click/gang and not just as being brown and proud.
12/12/09 2:28 AM
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I don't think Cain is associated with the Brown Pride gang any more closely than Hoelzer Reich is associated with the National Socialist Workers' Party.
 
12/12/09 5:31 AM
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Normally, I think Bill O'Reilly is a puke-bag - and always when he pontificates about MMA - but he does have a point when he decries the practice of people bringing up someone else's bad behavior to justify their own bad behavior; and that's exactly what's going on with this Holzer Reich/Brown Pride business.
12/12/09 5:42 AM
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Jimmy Football - Cain is from Salinas,CA.... there is no brown pride gang in Salinas, but there is significant gang activity in Salinas which is between Surenos and Nortenos. If he were a gang member he'd either have a "Sur 13" tattoo or a "Norte 14" tattoo, now if he DID have one of those tattoos then you'd have an argument but he doesn't so shut the hell up.


and how on earth would you know that there are NO gangs associated with "brown Pride" in that city?

That area has a huge gang problem.


Because I'm from California, and 99.9% of gangs in California claim either Norte or Sur, believe me if Cain was a gang member, WE ALL WOULD KNOW.
12/12/09 6:07 AM
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 dudes... many germans immigrated to mexico during the mid 1800's and up to the end of ww2... just as many came to america... many also went to mexico and south america... it is a fact that germans introduced polka music which is now mexico's most popular form of music... also these germans in mexico set up brewerys and most undoubtly introduced quality beer to the mexicans.. who were prolly sick of growing wine grapes for the spaniards... as a german/danish american myself i am curious as to why these germans decided to go to mexico and south america rather than (as most german immigrants did) go to america??   the truth is during these times there was a huge anti-german sentiment  especially during ww1 and 2.. why? well people escaping germany  were escaping proverty, war and leaving their homeland for a chance at opportunity... the americans that were already here prolly resented these "new" immigrants just many americans resent those "mexicans" today ..as they were prolly taking up space, taking up jobs and competing for vital resources and just not american enough.. yet many germans went to mexico and south america where they didn't face a backlash and hardship over their ancestry...  but all in all kind of ironic that sum german t-shirt people have shown a lack of comprehension of ALL german history and yets want to complain about sum mexicans and brown pride....  -brown pride took our people in at a time when many other "whites" did not. idiots.
12/12/09 8:47 AM
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What's entirely lost around here is that the gangs discussed here are not anti-white to any degree. They PARTNER with the white supremacists due to their anti-BLACK hatred.
12/12/09 8:50 AM
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StretchPlum - What's entirely lost around here is that the gangs discussed here are not anti-white to any degree. They PARTNER with the white supremacists due to their anti-BLACK hatred.


VERY FUCKING CORRECT, the Sur 13 gang street soldiers all pay "taxes" to the Mexican Mafia prison gang for protection, and the Mexican Mafia has a prison alliance with the Aryan Brotherhood.
12/12/09 8:59 AM
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Jimmy Football - 
StretchPlum - What's entirely lost around here is that the gangs discussed here are not anti-white to any degree. They PARTNER with the white supremacists due to their anti-BLACK hatred.


VERY FUCKING CORRECT, the Sur 13 gang street soldiers all pay "taxes" to the Mexican Mafia prison gang for protection, and the Mexican Mafia has a prison alliance with the Aryan Brotherhood.


That alliance is starting to crumble.
12/12/09 9:05 AM
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it might be shaky, but it wont crumble. The Mexican mafia is the biggest prison gang in California, the Nuestra Familia, BGF and AB dont come close. and the thought of the AB aligning with the BGF is laughable, and the AB is too smart to go at it alone.
12/12/09 10:28 AM
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Jimmy Football - it might be shaky, but it wont crumble. The Mexican mafia is the biggest prison gang in California, the Nuestra Familia, BGF and AB dont come close. and the thought of the AB aligning with the BGF is laughable, and the AB is too smart to go at it alone.


Yes AB will never have a pack with BGF, but they want to start a war with La Eme, at least the Cali faction. I know a few other things, but should not post that stuff on a public forumm. I can say that the AB has a "truce" with the NF in Pelican Bay.
12/12/09 10:36 AM
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Just meant that when you drill down, extreme Mexican ethnic identity is not anti-white, it's anti-black.
12/12/09 10:36 AM
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theken206 - OK, lets go through this once agin...............

There are multiple "brown pride gangs" that ally them selves with the Nortenos and the Surenos, there are also stand alone BP gangs with no ties to either.

There is also a large BP "movement" that has nothing to do with street gangs and the like.

Who the fuck knows or cares where Cain falls into all of it. I sure dont.


Well whats the difference between that and the bands that wear HR and have some kind of white pride links?

HR was being criticised for exactly the same thing...because some people wearing their clothing are affiliated with some white pride movement.

Well...some people with Cain's brown pride tattoo are connected with street gangs...


The history behind both terms is the obvious difference.

That said, I don't support the double standards that exist nowadays around race/ethnicity, discussions around race/racism, etc.

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