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3/9/10 1:34 AM
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StephenL - mike. have you taken steps to make the former students not so pissed? i'd rather not address what they're owed, but i'm trying to help them not escalate their issue.

"CSF ran it's course and was unable to stay open. Again like so many other companies in Michigan."

i don't know of any other gyms that have closed due to these turbulent economic times.

ever want to address the actual reasons it closed leaving 40+ students out in the cold?

stephen
I paid monthly, and I'm not pissed.
 
3/9/10 8:11 AM
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StephenL - mike. have you taken steps to make the former students not so pissed? i'd rather not address what they're owed, but i'm trying to help them not escalate their issue.

"CSF ran it's course and was unable to stay open. Again like so many other companies in Michigan."

i don't know of any other gyms that have closed due to these turbulent economic times.

ever want to address the actual reasons it closed leaving 40+ students out in the cold?

stephen
I paid monthly, and I'm not pissed.
 




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3/9/10 8:12 AM
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Yes sometimes one of the teachers had a pint of mad-dog 20 20 in his hand but who are we to argue with mortal gods?





hey nothing wrong with have an instructor who likes to occasionally have some cocktails at the gym.. hhehehehe
3/9/10 10:16 AM
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StephenL - mike. have you taken steps to make the former students not so pissed? i'd rather not address what they're owed, but i'm trying to help them not escalate their issue.

"CSF ran it's course and was unable to stay open. Again like so many other companies in Michigan."

i don't know of any other gyms that have closed due to these turbulent economic times.

ever want to address the actual reasons it closed leaving 40+ students out in the cold?

stephen
I paid monthly, and I'm not pissed.
 




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 a blue namer..............lol :)
3/10/10 3:04 AM
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David, Thats Super B!!
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I (like my instructor before me) dont pretend Im anything but me..Im honest and unashamed of that..Everyone knows it..You see, im not one of those guys who shows up at the gym and pretends to be someone he isnt..It's why people like me and why they trust me..

Judgemental and fake people suck..This is why our team was so strong..Because they knew me, knew every minute of my life and I theirs. I care and they know it. They didnt show up for a class, pay their money, get 45 minutes and have me take it and go home..They showed up, hungout, called me when they needed to talk, confided in me, shot the shit, asked for help, etc. and vice versa.. I knew everyone of my guys, where they came from, what the felt, their hopes, their dreams..Everything...That is a family. That is what makes people excel. Love. In life and in martial arts.

My instructor Walter taught me that when he took me in, and get this, OMG!!! He too was drinking, cussing and being himself beside our mats when he taught me the very things I taught our guys..and if any of you on here can argue with my success at making great fighters (or Walt's), I dare you to..Drunk, sober, straight as an arrow, classless, whatever..I love my homies and they love me..I carry on a tradition and a method that works.

I have demons like everyone..as a "fighter" Im going at them headfirst with my hands up right now...Do you have the same drive in your lives for your demons? I know the guys I taught do.

If you don't, well then, we'll always be better "fighters" than you.

CSF didnt "close", its a friendship and a bond most people will never understand..It will never and can never "close"..And when I get back, the gym we meet at will open again.

Nothing else needs to be said about it because if you say anything else about it, you were never part of this team and know jack shit about it..
   
3/10/10 8:31 AM
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ok clearly i was saying that cuz my coach is dom.. the guy who drinks beer while doing a grappling tournament lol was actually saying nothing wrong with that douche
3/10/10 2:39 PM
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megwill - ok clearly i was saying that cuz my coach is dom.. the guy who drinks beer while doing a grappling tournament lol was actually saying nothing wrong with that douche


actually doing tournaments drunk is one of my favorite pasttimes. so yea Q she was talking about me. lol. but i stick to beer, for competition.
3/10/10 3:52 PM
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lol and you do well drunk so why stop?
3/10/10 4:20 PM
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That's what i'm sayin
3/10/10 5:19 PM
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I apologize then meg, I get the maddog joke alot from people and got mega defensive..
3/11/10 1:59 AM
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StephenL - mike. have you taken steps to make the former students not so pissed? i'd rather not address what they're owed, but i'm trying to help them not escalate their issue.

"CSF ran it's course and was unable to stay open. Again like so many other companies in Michigan."

i don't know of any other gyms that have closed due to these turbulent economic times.

ever want to address the actual reasons it closed leaving 40+ students out in the cold?

stephen
I paid monthly, and I'm not pissed.
 




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A nobody..I'm a musician that saw a few Train Judo videos and Quincy would let me train at CSF. I think we spared/trained a couple of times on the Sunday training days. Of course we were talking about mma..I was the short homeless looking dude that got lucky and picked up a 350 tire.
3/11/10 2:04 AM
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I (like my instructor before me) dont pretend Im anything but me..Im honest and unashamed of that..Everyone knows it..You see, im not one of those guys who shows up at the gym and pretends to be someone he isnt..It's why people like me and why they trust me..

Judgemental and fake people suck..This is why our team was so strong..Because they knew me, knew every minute of my life and I theirs. I care and they know it. They didnt show up for a class, pay their money, get 45 minutes and have me take it and go home..They showed up, hungout, called me when they needed to talk, confided in me, shot the shit, asked for help, etc. and vice versa.. I knew everyone of my guys, where they came from, what the felt, their hopes, their dreams..Everything...That is a family. That is what makes people excel. Love. In life and in martial arts.

My instructor Walter taught me that when he took me in, and get this, OMG!!! He too was drinking, cussing and being himself beside our mats when he taught me the very things I taught our guys..and if any of you on here can argue with my success at making great fighters (or Walt's), I dare you to..Drunk, sober, straight as an arrow, classless, whatever..I love my homies and they love me..I carry on a tradition and a method that works.

I have demons like everyone..as a "fighter" Im going at them headfirst with my hands up right now...Do you have the same drive in your lives for your demons? I know the guys I taught do.

If you don't, well then, we'll always be better "fighters" than you.

CSF didnt "close", its a friendship and a bond most people will never understand..It will never and can never "close"..And when I get back, the gym we meet at will open again.

Nothing else needs to be said about it because if you say anything else about it, you were never part of this team and know jack shit about it..
   
Most martial arts schools have the "my instructor is a god and can't do no wrong" thing. You taught the truth about grappling/fighting and you were always honest about yourself. That's why I liked training with you. I do not want to get into the Stephen thing, but, a lot of the stuff he posts is the reason I liked training with you.
 
3/11/10 8:51 AM
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Bro, even now as nice as steven is being(and I appreciate it completely), he will never understand why I didnt hide my transgressions...


I love ya B..You know this...You got it..you understood what it means to be a droogie..And like charlie bowdry said about billy the kid "it aint easy havin pals"
3/11/10 9:21 AM
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StephenL - mike. have you taken steps to make the former students not so pissed? i'd rather not address what they're owed, but i'm trying to help them not escalate their issue.

"CSF ran it's course and was unable to stay open. Again like so many other companies in Michigan."

i don't know of any other gyms that have closed due to these turbulent economic times.

ever want to address the actual reasons it closed leaving 40+ students out in the cold?

stephen
I paid monthly, and I'm not pissed.
 




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A nobody..I'm a musician that saw a few Train Judo videos and Quincy would let me train at CSF. I think we spared/trained a couple of times on the Sunday training days. Of course we were talking about mma..I was the short homeless looking dude that got lucky and picked up a 350 tire.



Yeah, I remember you. Whats been going on? Are you no longer training? I felt like such a little child not being able to lift that. Thank god Brian couldn't bring those things over from the old gym.

Quincy isn't replaceable and the gym doesn't feel the same without him but James, Dave, Jeremy and Mike are doing a great job with what we have. You should drop by!
3/11/10 9:26 AM
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<b>I (like my instructor before me) dont pretend Im anything but me..Im honest and unashamed of that..Everyone knows it..You see, im not one of those guys who shows up at the gym and pretends to be someone he isnt..It's why people like me and why they trust me..

Judgemental and fake people suck..This is why our team was so strong..Because they knew me, knew every minute of my life and I theirs. I care and they know it. They didnt show up for a class, pay their money, get 45 minutes and have me take it and go home..They showed up, hungout, called me when they needed to talk, confided in me, shot the shit, asked for help, etc. and vice versa.. I knew everyone of my guys, where they came from, what the felt, their hopes, their dreams..Everything...That is a family. That is what makes people excel. Love. In life and in martial arts.

My instructor Walter taught me that when he took me in, and get this, OMG!!! He too was drinking, cussing and being himself beside our mats when he taught me the very things I taught our guys..and if any of you on here can argue with my success at making great fighters (or Walt's), I dare you to..Drunk, sober, straight as an arrow, classless, whatever..I love my homies and they love me..I carry on a tradition and a method that works.

I have demons like everyone..as a "fighter" Im going at them headfirst with my hands up right now...Do you have the same drive in your lives for your demons? I know the guys I taught do.

If you don't, well then, we'll always be better "fighters" than you.

CSF didnt "close", its a friendship and a bond most people will never understand..It will never and can never "close"..And when I get back, the gym we meet at will open again.

Nothing else needs to be said about it because if you say anything else about it, you were never part of this team and know jack shit about it..</b>   




You don't need to explain anything to anyone. It would be impossible too because like you said it's not just a gym, its more than that.

I think that one day where I came up and told you I was going to be leaving for a bit I gained a HUGE amount of respect for you. Not to say I didn't have any for you before but just the way you handled it was the sole reason I did come back.

If you weren't who you are CSF wouldn't have been as enjoyable as it was/is. If mint skoal and mad dog is what makes you the way you are then cool. You will have a six pack and a couple tins waiting for you on your return!
3/11/10 11:53 AM
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 I just want it to be said the mad dog line was not a jab at Q, Just having a little fun. Next time I will say a 40oz of






LOL :)




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 fun fact about Stephen his favorite musician is John Mayer. 
3/12/10 8:57 AM
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its alll good sir
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Q was out here with me. yesterday we went to SD and he got all fucked up and when the lady gave him his bill he just pushed her and walked away. last i saw he was face down in the dirt with 4 or 5 cops bitch kickn him. nothing since. big mike your right. Mad Dog 20/20 for life!
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DCC - Q was out here with me. yesterday we went to SD and he got all fucked up and when the lady gave him his bill he just pushed her and walked away. last i saw he was face down in the dirt with 4 or 5 cops bitch kickn him. nothing since. big mike your right. Mad Dog 20/20 for life!



Its bad enough that Quincy left here, but don't rub it in with your fake stories. Everyone knows Quincy wouldn't be at such a height level in order to push anyone.
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 Stephen or Mike's buddy^?   
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 When did county get wifi??
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mortician - <div id="postVideo-29422587"></div><script type="text/javascript">var so = new SWFObject("http://www.youtube.com/v/kHmvkRoEowc&hl=en_US&fs=1&", "postVideo-29422587-Flash", "425", "355", "9.0.28", "##000"); so.addParam("allowScriptAccess", "samedomain"); so.addParam("allowNetworking", "internal"); so.addParam("wmode", "transparent"); so.write("postVideo-29422587"); </script> Stephen or Mike's buddy^?   



What a silly question. Anyone who calls themselves Stephen as opposed to Steve, is automatically under homo suspicion.

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