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4/15/10 9:53 PM
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Ryan Thomas & Ben Askren were in the midst of a great fight at Bellator 14 when the referee made the worst call that I have seen in MMA. He prematurely stopped the fight to "technical submission". I have never heard of such a call, Thomas never tapped and was fully conscious. The referee cheated the Ryan Thomas, Ben Askren, & the fans. Neither Thomas nor Askren were happy with the premature stoppage. If Bellator wants to do the right thing, they should have an immediate rematch.
4/15/10 9:57 PM
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the worst part about it was his hand wasn't even around his neck it was on the side of his face 
4/15/10 9:59 PM
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There needs to be more ground training for these boxing referees or they are going to continue hurting the MMA community.
4/15/10 10:01 PM
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And you needed to start a new post after replying to the original, why?

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=1626712&forum=1&page=1&pc=11 
4/15/10 10:03 PM
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It is just difficult to see someone with the dedication of Thomas get screwed by a horrible referee at the start of a great fight.
4/15/10 10:16 PM
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thanks for the spoilers.
4/15/10 10:18 PM
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bongwater7654 - the worst part about it was his hand wasn't even around his neck it was on the side of his face 

that sounds FUCKED UP and the ref doesnt know grappling
4/15/10 10:30 PM
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Rand McPherson - thanks for the spoilers.


Yeah nice job.
4/15/10 10:35 PM
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 did the ref count to three?!!
4/15/10 10:39 PM
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I thought Thomas was gonna crack that mother fucker in the face. If it was me it would be worth it.
4/15/10 10:53 PM
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I really do apologize. I feel like a jerk now.

The announcer said that the show was live on FSN. I even talked to a friend who watched it live. I guess that I will save you from getting pissed off, at least.
4/15/10 11:52 PM
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anyone remember the refs name?
4/15/10 11:55 PM
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rsiuc - I really do apologize. I feel like a jerk now.

The announcer said that the show was live on FSN. I even talked to a friend who watched it live. I guess that I will save you from getting pissed off, at least.


Accepted.

Put SPOILER and don't put results in future threads. like askren vs thomas was f'd (SPOILER).

thanx.
4/15/10 11:58 PM
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Take your mouth piece when interviewed
4/16/10 1:38 AM
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totally fucked
4/16/10 1:42 AM
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rsiuc - There needs to be more ground training for these boxing referees or they are going to continue hurting the MMA community.

This. I was at the show with a friend who is a pro boxer. Even before the fight started, he said: "That guy is a boxing ref. What's he doing in there?"
4/16/10 2:30 AM
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sorry, but you have never heard of a technical submission before?

Yes it was a horrible stoppage, but if you have never heard of a technical submission before you need to watch more mma. They are fairly common.
4/16/10 3:08 AM
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 That was the worst stoppage I've ever seen.  The triangle Thomas put on Askren was tighter....disgraceful
4/16/10 4:15 AM
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Brian McLaughlin -  That was the worst stoppage I've ever seen.  The triangle Thomas put on Askren was tighter....disgraceful



thats a good point, it looked like Askren was fucked. Even with the ref fucking that up, I thought the card was very good. Wilson Reis was amazing, Imada fight was good with some great ground fighting, and Curran knocked that dudes head back to Canada.
4/16/10 5:54 AM
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I have heard of technical submission, but I was under the impression that everyone had seen the fight. I just didn't understand how the ref could make such call in that fight.

Actually, I am really impressed with the way Bellator handled the situation. I hung out with Ryan after the fight and from what he said, the organization handled the situation the best that they could.
4/16/10 5:58 AM
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Rand McPherson - 
rsiuc - I really do apologize. I feel like a jerk now.

The announcer said that the show was live on FSN. I even talked to a friend who watched it live. I guess that I will save you from getting pissed off, at least.


Accepted.

Put SPOILER and don't put results in future threads. like askren vs thomas was f'd (SPOILER).

thanx.


Will do!

With that cleared, what was your opinion of the call?
4/16/10 6:15 AM
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i thought it was a bit of a bullshit decision at first as well but when i saw the replay.... askren was really torqueing that thing.... shades of that choke that Dan Miller did in the IFL... Thomas' ear looked like it was touching his chest.... i think the ref was reacting more to the choke visually, as opposed to it being super effective at cutting off the air or blood
4/16/10 6:55 AM
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 Thomas' left leg went limp at the same time he closed his eyes.
4/16/10 7:03 AM
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4/16/10 7:41 AM
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Good stoppage.

If someone wants to be an idiot and fake falling unconscious, they deserve to lose.

Watch the top gif:



Anyone would have made that stoppage.

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