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5/16/10 5:38 AM
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went to ask a kenpo instructor if i could train with his school but was denied after i told him i also train jujitsu. he wanted total commitment from his students which i could have given him. jujitsu sensei was cool and encouraging though.
5/16/10 7:45 PM
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alz - went to ask a kenpo instructor if i could train with his school but was denied after i told him i also train jujitsu. he wanted total commitment from his students which i could have given him. jujitsu sensei was cool and encouraging though.

Sounds pretty stupid to me...
5/18/10 5:03 AM
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Sounds like pre 1993 bullshit to me. The guy doesn't want his students to be well rounded? Did he have contracts you had to sign up for?
5/19/10 1:09 PM
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eff him.
2/22/11 1:57 PM
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Skpotamus - Sounds like pre 1993 bullshit to me. The guy doesn't want his students to be well rounded? Did he have contracts you had to sign up for?

 VTFU
2/23/11 3:16 AM
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He probably do not want someone to call him over his bs teaching with experience from other schools. You get that with insecure (or outright fraudulent) instructors sometimes.
2/23/11 5:35 PM
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 ^^^Of course he's a fraudulent instructor,99% of kenpo guys are
2/23/11 5:43 PM
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 You wanted to learn this?
2/24/11 3:09 AM
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chuck lidell has kenpo roots
2/24/11 7:28 AM
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 Lidell was a wrestler turned kickboxer, the kenpo played no part
2/24/11 3:24 PM
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The sensei I feel I owe the most to was also the one who told me I should move from his school to another.
He was teaching (dirty) judo in a hapkido school and knew the other students weren't giving me the competition I needed to learn, so he sent me to Oishi Judo where I got my ass kicked constantly. I'd still hang out with him after that and he was always proud that he'd taught me so well I had to leave his school.

His loyalty to my learning has actually made me more loyal to him as a mentor.
2/25/11 12:10 AM
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Lidell was a wrestler turned kickboxer, the kenpo played no part


he should've tattooed wrasslin on his arm then...
2/25/11 4:11 PM
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 My BJJ instructor is okay with me training anywhere. I actually just started taking Judo classes a a different place with his blessing. Any instructor that wants exclusivity has got some issues. It is an art you are learning, who is he to tell you what else you can and cannot do?
2/25/11 9:36 PM
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"he should've tattooed wrasslin on his arm then..."

Everybody makes mistakes.

3/4/11 4:24 PM
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I took classes from a guy that did not want people training anywhere else. If you are beginner I can kind of see it, but if you have some time under your belt it is not a problem. If that is the case it is usually because of some insecurity they have that there is someone else out there that can teach better or their student may learn something they don't teach. That shit has been going on for years in the Martial Art's community.
3/13/11 4:23 PM
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It is considered an insult in traditional martial arts to train with a style outside the original school. This, of course didn't go over well with American Martial Artist who wanted to crosstrain with many styles. This was the beginning of the American Eclectic System, such as Bojukaryu,a mxture of Boxing,Jiujitsu and Karate, All American Combat Karate (Okamiryu) a mixture of Gojuryu, Tae Kwon Do and Jiujitsu. The first eclectic style was USA Go Ju and that caused great anomosities between Gogen Yamaguchi and Peter Urban. I love the martial art for what it is they all work and they all were created by a genius.<br /><br />Now I do MMA because no one seems to care about styles they just want to see what works. I think I get more respect from the MMA fighter simply because they need the strikes that I teach them and they get results.<br /><br />The original martial art was Pankration of the acient Greeks that did the same thing we are doing now in the Octogon. Now if a student wants to cross train in another art it is totally encoraged. Other wise respect the traditional styles for what they are.
3/15/11 11:45 AM
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MMA is not the end all either. It just gave the martial arts a kick in the ass in the early 1990's.
3/15/11 4:16 PM
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that is just plain stupid. Good reason not to go there anymore
4/11/11 11:17 PM
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 Hackleman at the Pit also teaches Kempo,
every style has their good and bad examples, my instructor has no problem with cross training.

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