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6/17/10 4:56 PM
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On James Toney making the switch to MMA at this late stage in his career to fight Randy Couture:
“I think it’s a bad decision. I don’t think it will work. I think the UFC is just trying to say they’re better than boxing because if James fought Couture in a boxing match James would absolutely destroy him, but if he fights him in a UFC/MMA style fight James does not have a ground game, once he goes to the ground it’s over. It’s completely two different sports and they’re just trying to use older boxers to make their sport look better.”

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6/17/10 4:59 PM
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 does that twitching douche realize Toney was the one that wouldn't shut his fuckin mouth?
6/17/10 5:15 PM
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LMAO!
6/17/10 5:19 PM
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I think its because those old boxers dont have an avenue in their own sport, and they try to transition into MMA. I don't see it being the other way around. MMA doesn't need old boxers, those old boxers obviously need the sport more.
6/17/10 5:23 PM
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Theonlyvivid - I think its because those old boxers dont have an avenue in their own sport, and they try to transition into MMA. I don't see it being the other way around. MMA doesn't need old boxers, those old boxers obviously need the sport more.


Well put.
6/17/10 5:38 PM
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still pissed we didnt get to see din vs mayorga
6/17/10 5:46 PM
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 The fight wouldn't even get sanctioned if it was put on by someone other than Zuffa...but the athletic commissions are bought and paid for.
6/17/10 5:51 PM
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Theonlyvivid - I think its because those old boxers dont have an avenue in their own sport, and they try to transition into MMA. I don't see it being the other way around. MMA doesn't need old boxers, those old boxers obviously need the sport more.

 
6/17/10 5:55 PM
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superCalo - I think this is the first sensible thing I've heard Freddie Roach say about mMa, perhaps he is starting to take a slight interest in it, because his comments are absolutly right.


He has been speaking highly of MMA for quite a while, while other Boxing purists don't give any respect for the sport. Theres a few interviews out there with Roach
6/17/10 5:56 PM
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THATS BECAUSE ALL THE GOOD BOXERS REALIZE THEY WOULDN'T DO WELL...IT'S THE WASHED UP ONES WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVE.
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Seems like an unusual comment from a guy who trains MMA fighters alongside boxers.

The UFC is using any old boxers, old boxers are trying to stay relevant and UFC is sometimes the target.
6/17/10 5:56 PM
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WTF are you talking about? The UFC didn't approach Toney; he basically begged for a chance. Making stupid videos and running his mouth constantly. I think they are being nice by having him fight Randy. Toney won't have to worry about kicks at all from Randy. Plus Randy is older than he is.
6/17/10 5:57 PM
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I like Freddy but Toney basically begged for this shot to the point where Dana couldn't say no anymore. It's not like the UFC needs this for any reason.
6/17/10 6:03 PM
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Also, Freddie thought Arlovski would be ready for a title shot in boxing by his 5th fight.
6/17/10 6:05 PM
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 ZERO, I repeat ZERO Boxers have been approached by anybody from MMA, they thought they would come in and run shit and it didn't happen....
6/17/10 6:19 PM
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jjmarine1 - THATS BECAUSE ALL THE GOOD BOXERS REALIZE THEY WOULDN'T DO WELL...IT'S THE WASHED UP ONES WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVE.


Needs to be said twice!!
No reason to make less money in mma.
6/17/10 6:27 PM
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JimmersonzGlove -  The fight wouldn't even get sanctioned if it was put on by someone other than Zuffa...but the athletic commissions are bought and paid for.


No way! It's not like the former CSAC now works for Station Casinos!
6/17/10 6:43 PM
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Jweinberg -  does that twitching douche realize Toney was the one that wouldn't shut his fuckin mouth?

Everyone vote this fucktard down.
6/17/10 7:04 PM
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What it comes down to is UFC cant say anything about freak show fights anymore.

If SF had signed Toney and had him main eventing we would never hear the end of it from Dana.
6/17/10 7:07 PM
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Jsteven - still pissed we didnt get to see din vs mayorga

6/17/10 7:23 PM
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jjmarine1 - THATS BECAUSE ALL THE GOOD BOXERS REALIZE THEY WOULDN'T DO WELL...IT'S THE WASHED UP ONES WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVE.

um. yeah actually, it's because the good boxers make 20 to 30 times more money per fight. 

let's see, I'm extremely good at boxing. a contender or champ. Should i make 30 million  a fight and do it once a year, or should i fight 4 times per year and NET 3 million  IF i am one of the best?



6/17/10 7:35 PM
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Yeah, cause Dana tracked Toney down and pressured him relentlessly until he finally broke down and signed.
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JimmersonzGlove -  The fight wouldn't even get sanctioned if it was put on by someone other than Zuffa...but the athletic commissions are bought and paid for.



Yea can you imagine like Tim silvia vs ray mercer!?

LOL
6/18/10 5:38 AM
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GaymidaGaydan - 
JimmersonzGlove -  The fight wouldn't even get sanctioned if it was put on by someone other than Zuffa...but the athletic commissions are bought and paid for.



Yea can you imagine like Tim silvia vs ray mercer!?

LOL
That fight was supposed to be a boxing match originally and DID get fucked with. Kizer even came on here posting about it.
 
6/18/10 5:52 AM
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humphrey sphinctermuscle - 
jjmarine1 - THATS BECAUSE ALL THE GOOD BOXERS REALIZE THEY WOULDN'T DO WELL...IT'S THE WASHED UP ONES WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVE.

um. yeah actually, it's because the good boxers make 20 to 30 times more money per fight. 

let's see, I'm extremely good at boxing. a contender or champ. Should i make 30 million  a fight and do it once a year, or should i fight 4 times per year and NET 3 million  IF i am one of the best?


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30 million only applies to floyd lol, but your point stands, why get payed much less to do something you are much worse at? These guys have been boxing their whole lives and they are going to drop it to pick up mma lol?

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