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1/12/11 12:35 AM
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I'm in a similar situation. Never had any training. I'm 25 and I'll be 26 in October. I want to fight, and I want to fight professionally. I went ahead and just started training 3 weeks ago, and I'm glad I went ahead and just did it.
1/14/11 2:36 AM
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Its never too late ...just start man...
2/4/11 5:26 PM
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It never is too late as long as you have the time and the passion for the sport. You still have along way to go, A lot of people in sports retire around the age of 40 so you still have more than a decade ahead of you in BJJ and kickboxing
6/23/11 8:17 AM
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how long can people go on about their lives and wonder about whether they can seriously do something or not without even bothering to fucking try it at all is completely beyond me. you cant find out until you actually try it. this is especially considering this is something that is important enough where the person posts something here. obviously they are reaching out for some sort of answer that nobody can fucking answer but themselves. get off the fucking computer and go train NOW.

a better question to ask is do you have the fucking balls to try anyways, regardless of the results. MOST and I mean MOST people that ask this shit are fucking pussies that want some person to go out there and be like, "yea you can do it!" like its some easy shit. then they go out and feel good about themselves and you know what happens after that? they either keep putting it off like a pussy or they go and fucking train and get smashed. If you even have to ask if it is too late for you, then honestly this shit doesnt look good for you, it shows you are not educated in the field and not particularly confident. the real question you should ask yourself as a poster has previously stated is: can you handle it or not? whether or not it is too late for you seeing that you are at a decent age is not the case, it is whether or not you have already let yourself become defeated in your own mind. The fact that you even ask, is giving you the option of quitting. These sort of people are the type of people that want things the easy way, they want to be given the answers so they don't have to try so hard and find them on their own. The first question is either, "is it too late for me?" or "can i really do it/is it easy enough for me to do." This is usually followed by more BITCH logic, "what is the secret to getting good quick." Note the process 'bitch logic' progresses. They are always looking for the easy way out. The truth of the matter is there is no fucking secret to getting good and achieving success, the fucking secret is obvious! Try as hard as you fucking can and keep having faith.

The fact that people even bother asking these questions shows that they dont have faith and that is a major setback, a real driven motherfucker that wants success doesnt fucking ask is it too late for me? he asks wtf do i gotta do to fucking be the man?! the answer is fucking train, and train hard.
6/23/11 9:32 AM
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spoken with full truth ^^^
6/23/11 6:32 PM
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supersaiyan knows what is up, all these other guys asking if they have what it takes are dreaming up kid shit. "mommy, mommy, when i grow up im going to be a..........."
6/27/11 1:50 PM
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Edan - I'm 25, never had any training just like a couple of months of BJJ and kickboxing, I will be 26 in october, is it too late for me to start right now going pro or should I just think about it as a hobby?




I was going to post the same thing today and came across your thread. I had a couple BJJ classes but workout with a friend regularly that wrestled and he knows how bad I want to try my hand in MMA. He tells me to jump in and do it but it's not something to "test the waters" at because there is too much of a commitment needed to actually know if you can do it. So, I ask...anyone in the north texas area that works with guys to go after this goal but doesnt charge an arm and a leg? PMs are welcome as well.
6/28/11 3:03 PM
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You are either going to get older every year or you will die. If you start training now in five years you could have a pretty solid skillset by age 31 or you can choose not to train and in five years be making posts asking if 31 is too old to start training. You decide.
6/29/11 5:35 PM
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Edan - I'm 25, never had any training just like a couple of months of BJJ and kickboxing, I will be 26 in october, is it too late for me to start right now going pro or should I just think about it as a hobby?




I was going to post the same thing today and came across your thread. I had a couple BJJ classes but workout with a friend regularly that wrestled and he knows how bad I want to try my hand in MMA. He tells me to jump in and do it but it's not something to "test the waters" at because there is too much of a commitment needed to actually know if you can do it. So, I ask...anyone in the north texas area that works with guys to go after this goal but doesnt charge an arm and a leg? PMs are welcome as well.


150 a month is pretty normal, if you dont want to pay then you obviously dont want to train bad enough to ever even amount to a shitty fighter. shits pretty cheap if you actually train at least 5 times a weak and do more than one class. were not talking an arm and a leg, we're talking about little bitches bitching and making excuses.
6/30/11 8:40 AM
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if u guys asking " am i too old" why would u let it be a deciding factor by someone else regardless...

DO WHAT U WANT TO DO in life n let no one stop you

i started BJJ at 25 and NO i didnt ask ppl if i was too old n crap either...i went in cuz i wanted to try it.

if u guys see and hear of instructors of MMA/judo/bJJ n other arts teaching ...at ages 50-70/or competing ...please save yourself the silly "am i too old" jargon unless u are 40+
6/30/11 11:54 AM
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supersaiyan - carelton haselrig just started MMA at 40-41 yrs oldn doing pretty good
I just turned 42, and this week I'm signing up for an MMA school, just cause I want to get in BETTER shape, learn how to defend my self, and also because I love the sport in general. I've taken kickboxing classes here and there (no JJ, or anything else) so I pretty much know how to position my hands, feet etc, but I of course want to know the other areas of MMA as well. Phone Post
6/30/11 1:43 PM
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keep it going bro .. u will be fine and do your thing with your wisdom... i say go for it ... your reasons are mine hahahah...i dont really care about being MMA chamnp or stuff ..i love it for what it is and overall benefits :)
6/30/11 11:55 PM
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No, definitely not too old. But I would ask yourself is it something you really want, because seriously for the time and energy required, there are probably easier and less painful ways to make a living. If you haven't got a shot at being a champion, don't do it, because there is no money to be made.

If you just want to get in shape and challenge yourself, just do it as a hobby.

7/1/11 12:55 AM
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I have a story for all you fucking pussy bitches whining about 'oh am I too old?' wah wah wah.

So I started doing bjj a couple years ago, and my first instructor was Lily Pagle. This woman started doing bjj about 15 years ago and now she as a black belt in both bjj and judo. Oh so what is the big deal? The big fucking deal is she started doing bjj in her 40s, and now has a black belt in her 50s. She still teaches class everyday at the Modern Combatives gym in Berkeley, California. She still rolls and trains on a very frequent basis as well. So to all you fucking pussy ass bitches that are like oh it is too late for me! Go cry about never doing anything worthwhile in life because you thought it was too hard. This lady started way later than you and still trains today. Oh, did I forget to mention she is a woman? Think about what that means, for a woman to train mma and bjj 15 years ago was unheard of! So there you go you fucking bitches, and yea, if you don't like what I say, even though what I say is based on common sense, the truth, and actual experience, then maybe you should join an mma gym and get good enough to beat my ass! That would stick it to me good.
7/1/11 10:15 AM
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Edan - I'm 25, never had any training just like a couple of months of BJJ and kickboxing, I will be 26 in october, is it too late for me to start right now going pro or should I just think about it as a hobby?




I was going to post the same thing today and came across your thread. I had a couple BJJ classes but workout with a friend regularly that wrestled and he knows how bad I want to try my hand in MMA. He tells me to jump in and do it but it's not something to "test the waters" at because there is too much of a commitment needed to actually know if you can do it. So, I ask...anyone in the north texas area that works with guys to go after this goal but doesnt charge an arm and a leg? PMs are welcome as well.


150 a month is pretty normal, if you dont want to pay then you obviously dont want to train bad enough to ever even amount to a shitty fighter. shits pretty cheap if you actually train at least 5 times a weak and do more than one class. were not talking an arm and a leg, we're talking about little bitches bitching and making excuses.



exacltly ... the least i paid for month to month was 140 but average is at least 150 ...and u get unlimited .. that 150 goes a freaking long ass way man . for those spots u pretty much couldhave 6 to 8 classes a day ( as i did )
7/1/11 11:01 AM
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150 a month is pretty normal, if you dont want to pay then you obviously dont want to train bad enough to ever even amount to a shitty fighter. shits pretty cheap if you actually train at least 5 times a weak and do more than one class. were not talking an arm and a leg, we're talking about little bitches bitching and making excuses.

The school I signed up for is $200 for two months, and after that it's $119 a month, with NO CONTRACT. I bought a package from the school which had a mouthpiece, shin guards, 16oz. boxing gloves, MMA gloves, wraps, and a t-shirt with the school name on it as well. I start my first class on Tuesday at 6, which is the Muay Tai class, and at 7 is the MMA class. Looking forward to shedding this friggin flab, and to learn something new at the same token. Phone Post
7/1/11 4:45 PM
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dfiumano624 - 150 a month is pretty normal, if you dont want to pay then you obviously dont want to train bad enough to ever even amount to a shitty fighter. shits pretty cheap if you actually train at least 5 times a weak and do more than one class. were not talking an arm and a leg, we're talking about little bitches bitching and making excuses.<br><br>The school I signed up for is $200 for two months, and after that it's $119 a month, with NO CONTRACT. I bought a package from the school which had a mouthpiece, shin guards, 16oz. boxing gloves, MMA gloves, wraps, and a t-shirt with the school name on it as well. I start my first class on Tuesday at 6, which is the Muay Tai class, and at 7 is the MMA class. Looking forward to shedding this friggin flab, and to learn something new at the same token. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


be careful man, im always wary of schools that do that package deal. im just worried that you are going to be training at a shit school. what is the name of the school? it could be an awesome school for all i know but, like i said when they start doing these package deals you have to be careful because its the beginning of a money making machine angle rather than a place that really wants to help teach you.
7/1/11 7:57 PM
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I hear what you're saying, but before I signed up at the school, I actually spoke to the instructor for the duration of both the Muay Thai and MMA classes and also watched both classes to get a feel of what is involved there. Also, the fact that there's no contract, the price is right, and it's the only MMA gym close to me that fits the first two pre-requisites made me want to go there. I just had a good vibe about the place. Mind you I'm not looking to become a pro-fighter, I just want to be in shape like one, and also learn the various techniques involved in MMA, so at least I know how to defend myself at some degree. Phone Post
7/1/11 11:08 PM
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hey look, im on your side, im so on your side that even though i wrote up a long ass post and accidentally deleted it, im still willing to write another one to tell you how potentially ridiculous you are being.

first off, you know nothing of the sport, from a first hand experience. if you did then you wouldnt go for the package deal, the package deal is usually full of a bunch of shitty lowgrade equipment that these gym owners sucker you into buying at a jacked up price because they can either get a deal on them or buy them wholesale. hold on, apparently you think you know a thing or two about this gym just from watching? but but but, you actually probably have done little in participating. also, you talked to the instructor who benefits and NEEDS your money to prosper. so you are telling me by the same logic, if you were to buy a car and knew absolutely nothing about them, you would go to the dealer and just by whatever the salesman told you to.

secondly, you claim you have a 'good vibe.' this good vibe logic branches from the same tree as the bitches that always ask, 'is it too late for me?' essentially, you have settled and there is little anyone can do to change your mind. so to be concise, you have made an arbitrary decision and wish to stick with it. there is also this further settling evidence as you stated, you don't want to be a pro fighter and just want to learn techniques. well hey, while we are somewhat on the topic of cars, let us compare you to a car. you claim you are not a race car, okay, that is fine, not every car can be a race car. however, the key point is, seeing as even though you are not a race car, you still want the best care and management you can get while still being reasonable. now does that mean you go and arbitrarily settle on potentially buying some absolute shit parts when you know close to nothing about them? hell, you probably wouldnt even take that risk with the actual car that you drive around. with that said, why would you take that kind of risk with your own life which by the way is infinitely more valuable than some car?

that being said, you HAVE to do more research on this place, it is your duty to yourself to do this.
7/2/11 5:11 AM
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Ridiculous I'm being, eh? Being that I'm 42 and I been around the block a few times, I think I know if I'm getting shafted, or overpaying for shit. And like I said, I'm not locked into this for a year, there's no contract! SO, what's the worst case scenario......I lose a few pounds, and learn a sport I'm really into! Come on! You're talking to me like I don't know what the hell I'm doing! But you know what, if buying that package was a mistake........SO WHAT! I've made worse decisions in my life. Bottom line is that I'm doing something I enjoy, and not letting myself go, like some people around my age do, so I made my bed, and now I have to lie in it, right? Phone Post
7/2/11 7:11 AM
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worst case scenario is if its not up to par...u can easily just stop going at your own perogative... either way its better than being locked in with the YEAR-LONG contract

i will take a small loss to a big one :)

Victor seems sincere and has a geniune concern for you from my perspective..he has big brother love man ahahah... i can appreciate that considering the masses that get swindeled in MA schools
7/2/11 7:45 AM
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That's again why I signed up in the first place. If I don't like the school after my two months are up, I can pick up and go somewhere else, and I have the equipment I need as well. Like I said, I've made worse mistakes, so I just have to find out for myself if this school is something I can go to on a long term basis.

And Victor, I didn't mean to sound pissed at you or anything, but I do appreciate the input, even though it did sound a little "dragged out". Plus, posting at 4:45 in the AM wasn't too smart of me either. Phone Post
7/2/11 4:54 PM
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look dfiumano its like this, yea ok you are 42 but, and probably have lots of experience in numerous areas in life but, this is mma. if you are 42 and you've been working as a blank blank blank for a long time, i would agree, you probably know a whole lot more than most people who do blank blank blank. however, this is mma. for instances, you wouldnt claim to be able to play the piano better than a guy whose been playing a few years if youve never actually played the piano before, even though you are 42 and experienced in life. mma is the same thing, except these salesmen trying to sell you something you dont know much about. these guys are not only good at verbal jiujitsu but also can become your 'friend' and then next thing you know, you are so attached you just have tunnel vision and end up paying for crap training because you like the guy and then you start to like the other clients and....... do i really have to further elaborate?

its ok to be pissed at me man, because i am trying to big brother you as supersaiyan says. im not big brothering you so i get something out of it, for fucks sake im on the computer typing on a forum. what do i get from this? some sick sense of epleasure from feeling like i accomplished something? no man, im trying to help you out for the sake of helping you out, not for me to get anything out of it. seriously man, you think you know, but you have no idea. ive seen it done time and time again to many fucking people, hell i can honestly say, i have been a part of the 'salesman' routine to sucker people into joining too. and let me tell you something, the stupidest fuckers and easiest suckers in this circumstance are the ones the think they know the most and what is going on. look man im not trying to say you are a sucker but, look, you are an older guy who is 42 and don't know very much about the sport. if i was a salesman, you would be prime fucking real estate right next to the teenager who thinks it would be so cool to train.

by the way, the equipment you bought most likely shit. and the way you put it, like i said again, it sounds like you are a 'settler' and settling into a bad bed of mistakes. just because its not the worst mistake youve ever made does that mean you should still make a mistake?! honestly man i just dont want you to get screwed.
7/2/11 5:18 PM
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Well i appreciate you "helping me out" like i'm a fish out of water on the sport, but i've done my homework on the MANY schools in my area before i signed up for this one. PLUS, i've been to many martial arts schools, and pretty much know if they are "McDojos" and whatnot. I think i'm smart enough to make that determination, and to take appropriate action.........don't need "my hand held" sorta speak. And yes, i was TOLD TO MY FACE by the instructor that it's "not the best quality", but said that it'll last you a while (which is fine by me). But don't forget there is "no contract" that i had to commit to, so AGAIN the worst case scenario is that i lose some weight, and have cheap equipment. I can always pick up the good stuff if i pick up and leave to go to another school once my tuition runs out...........not a problem! The bottom line is, is that i'm trying something that i always wanted to try, and not second guessing myself. But it's funny, you make it seem like i gambled my life savings on the Kentucky Derby or some shit like that. It's a friggin MMA school for crying out loud, and i'm SURE i can tell if i;m getting "snowed" or not, but thanks again for your input.
7/2/11 5:39 PM
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victorchensky -  you claim you have a 'good vibe.' this good vibe logic branches from the same tree as the bitches that always ask, 'is it too late for me?'


Well, it looks like the attitude i have is to GET INVOLVED, no? Seems like that's what i'm doing.................unless i'm missing something....

essentially, you have settled and there is little anyone can do to change your mind. so to be concise, you have made an arbitrary decision and wish to stick with it.


So tell me, how long of a journey should i partake in to find a school................when i'm eligible for Social Security? Obviously i know nothing about the sport or about being "suckered" (as you have previously stated. Please, tell me a good time frame which i should make my decision on a school? I'll be waiting with open arms!

Funny, how some people like to "help me" but want to badger me at the same token! AMAZING! Instead of writing something similar to War And Peace on your soap box........why can't you just wish that person luck? Seems like you have some frustration with some of the people in this thread (me especially), but ya know what.............i could really give a shit. Try your tactics with someone else........i'm not buying it. Have a nice day! :D

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