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7/3/11 3:32 AM
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victorchensky
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im just trying to be objective where as you are reacting as a typical person who feels like they have been personally insulted. you saying you want someone to just wish you good luck further feeds into the attitude that you have settled and just dont have what it takes to change your mind.

so you claim you can see a mcdojo a mile away, a lotta people would claim the same thing and they in fact became swindled by people such as matt barvo, lang, and atticus.

it is always a good tactic to sell someone something without an ongoing contract. this is prevalent with such things are phone plans. the fact of the matter is, it is a foot in the door move and makes it very difficult to turn down. im not saying theyre guaranteed to be a mcdojo or not but its a tactic employed by them.

i applaud your determination to try mma but once again, you probably cant tell if your getting screwed or not, it just isnt something you can tell right off the bat. back to the car examples, if you are not a car mechanic and dont have automotive knowledge you cant easily tell if the mechanic is bullshitting you.

as for the time frame, im not saying you should take forever to look for a gym but, you should always do research and constantly be searching for other schools that could possibly fit you better. instead you interpret this as if i am attacking you and telling you to never start mma and you should take forever to find a good school. coupled with the charged statement you took personally that could easily be interpreted that maybe i might think you are an idiot and cannot discern what is a good gym or not. what i am trying to say if you have to learn and keep your objective outlook, not just settle. you want to go to the gym? fine, but you should do research, you think you wont get screwed, maybe that is the case, but once again plenty of smarter people have been swindled.

once again i will reiterate that i was being objective as all the statements above prove, where as you are just interpreting all the hard facts as personal attacks on yourself. therefore, you ignorantly shut yourself away from good useful information which at the core is most of what i have said.

you are 42 years old, say you have a kid and they are like OH I KNOW THIS you dont have to tell me about it dad, i am making a good decision. you then try to support them in the search of further postmodern enlightenment such as the constant creation of new knowledge that may be equally useful as the old. then they get all upset and act like you dont know them and that they know what they are doing when in fact they have no experience and as a result they demonize you. let us get this straight, i say this with OFFENSE, it is this kind of ignorant and immature behavior that leads to some of the worst decisions man has ever made. instead of standing on the shoulders of giants, you choose to actively stand by yourself ignorant of all the experiences of others. and i by no means call myself a giant but, the knowledge i have gained has amounted from the experiences of myself and many others, and this knowledge is a juggernaut.

where as i choose to use facts based on actual experience, you choose to use your emotions and lash out.
7/3/11 7:30 AM
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Edited: 07/03/11 7:41 AM
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So tell me, what i should do, since you have all of this insight on MMA schools, and buying cars and whatnot. Tell me what my course of action should be! Seriously, tell me what i should do, since you're still on that soapbox of yours going on and on about a "potential bad decision". And yes, i may be going on and on about this as well, but i HAVE to give my opinion once again as well. So really...........tell me!<br />I would like to hear this....And also, what's your status as far as MMA goes. Are you training somewhere? are you a fighter? do you own a school? What makes you, can we say.......KNOWLEDGEABLE on this subject? I'd like to know who i'm dealing with. Please, enlighten me would you please?

PS: I start class on Tuesday. I'll keep YOU posted! :)
7/3/11 10:56 AM
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Would you tell someone who has never played golf that they screwed up by not joining a country club for a year and buying $1000 set of callaway golf clubs before they played their first hole?

How is this any different? The guy is not locked in to anything, and got a set of the cheapest equipment needed to participate. Sounds like a good idea to me. He can always move on to better equipment (or a better school if necessary) if he decides he enjoys it.
7/3/11 11:07 AM
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Edited: 07/03/11 11:12 AM
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At least someone is in my corner on this, and not chastising my actions. I think it's called being practical, and spending money "within my means". Did you ever stop and think about that Victor? Maybe some of us here can't afford a top name school AND equipment. Maybe for the time being, this is what their budget allows? Instead of "preaching" stop and think about what MAYBE the person's situation (financial or not)is, before you step on your podium.
7/3/11 11:13 AM
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Edited: 07/03/11 11:24 AM
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"Would you tell someone who has never played golf that they screwed up by not joining a country club for a year and buying $1000 set of callaway golf clubs before they played their first hole?<br /><br />How is this any different? The guy is not locked in to anything, and got a set of the cheapest equipment needed to participate. Sounds like a good idea to me. He can always move on to better equipment (or a better school if necessary) if he decides he enjoys it." <br /><br /><br />THANK you! Gotta love the fuckin "know-it-all's" you come across!
7/4/11 4:37 AM
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victorchensky
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are you serious dfiumano, i have been telling you what a good move has been all along in fact i stated it two fucking times!

directly quoted the first post towards you:

that being said, you HAVE to do more research on this place, it is your duty to yourself to do this.

in the second post i reiterate it twice:

as for the time frame, im not saying you should take forever to look for a gym but, you should always do research and constantly be searching for other schools that could possibly fit you better.

what i am trying to say if you have to learn and keep your objective outlook, not just settle.

you argue it is too expensive to train at a good school, well i would have no clue how much it costs in your area to train at a good school but i know schools in california generally cost at least 150. you make the assumption that top of the line mma schools cost a lot, this is not always the case. xtreme couture for instances i hear is only 120 a month for unlimited. so yea, ok maybe 150 is more than what you are paying but, honestly it is only about a little more than a dollar a day more. in addition to that, a lot of top of the line schools have a shitload of classes throughout the entire day so you can actually capitalize on it further.

maybe you cant afford nice equipment? look man we all cant afford $200 headgear from winning or winning gloves but there are a lot of websites that can sell you decent gear at very cheap prices. for instances, if you are looking for good muay thai gear, http://www.muaythaistuff.com has some very good deals if you order the package deals. http://www.txmma.com/ has some cheap shorts as well. mmawarehouse has some good deals and right in front of your face, believe it or not, the UG sells decent gear at a decent price. have you even looked at the prices? because honestly if you looked at the prices you would probably see that it is much more profitable to just order online. whats bothering me is you keep on saying all these things like you have no choice but to do this and this, all i am saying is there are a lot of fucking options out there and this may or may not be the best.

where are you going to train? you think with all this arguing, you would let me know where you are going, for all i know it could be a completely legitimate gym that is trying a new advertisement and marketing strategy.

lastly what makes me knowledgeable on the subject? well i train man, ive been training for a couple of years now, not including highshool wrestling. in high school i was second in my section in greco roman wrestling, second in my district in collegiate and in bjj, i have a blue belt and am working towards the long road of purple belt but, unfornately i stopped doing gi so it makes promotion near impossible. also when i was at the top of my game i got injured and didnt train for half a year. if i had to classify my skill level in bjj id say im a very good blue belt or a new purple. Currently i train 5-6 days. have i competed? yea man, i got injured about a year ago and didnt train for half a year. i won the us open in the smallest weight class and the absolute division as well but that was two years ago. now i am currently in the process of trying to get back into real competition shape and compete in a decently large nogi tournament and/or trying to get ready to try amateur mma. ive also taught beginner and kids bjj before and done my share of promoting mma gyms and trying to increase business. the business wasnt doing so good and it changed their name and started all over again. it was kind of a shady move in my opinion and for a while i stuck with it anyways until i got sick of it getting majorly injured didnt help either.
7/19/11 6:02 AM
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7/20/11 8:58 PM
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Go for it man it's not too late. I have a few buddies that started training in their mid-to-late 20s and ended up going pro.
10/23/11 6:38 PM
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Seems to be a lot of self righteousness in this thread. Don't shit on a guy for asking a question. Sometimes people are curious and like to hear others experiences with something before trying it. Frankly i'd be a little worried if you were teaching my kids victor. You seem to be lacking some empathy and compassion for others.
10/23/11 10:26 PM
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3 pages later = too late

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11/3/11 9:05 PM
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victorchensky
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im actually kind of interested in how the OP is doing and whether dfiumano624 is still training or not. i hope the best for both of them, if theyve actually made it this far and are still training hard then they probably have found the answer to whether or not it is too late for them already.
11/4/11 4:48 PM
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Edan - I'm 25, never had any training just like a couple of months of BJJ and kickboxing, I will be 26 in october, is it too late for me to start right now going pro or should I just think about it as a hobby?
Never too late ask Randy Couture Phone Post
11/9/11 8:44 PM
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Just...Start...TRAINING!!! Make small goals and just work hard.
8/4/12 8:04 AM
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If I recall correctly Frank Shamrock was 26 when he started training and he became a star in Pancrase, UFC champion, a pioneer of the sport and the symbol of the evolution of MMA from gimmick to a modern sport with world class athletes.


If you are going to be world champion one must admit you have a lot of catching up to do, but if you train hard and enjoy yourself you may end up noticing that you don't really suck at it. Go from there. I am 32 and only had a handful of training sessions so far and already signed up for a grappling competition in 3 weeks. =) If you don't have to be world champion, just push on and bloody enjoy yourself.





By the way, when did Severn shift from wrestling to MMA? At 36 or something?
8/5/12 6:05 PM
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If I recall correctly UFC fighter Jorge Rivera trained martial arts for the first time when he was 25.
8/6/12 6:34 AM
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victorchensky
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dfiumano i hope your training still ongoing and that it is going well. hopefully the op is training and trying to do something too. as for me im still training, all the best guys.
8/6/12 8:34 AM
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victorchensky - dfiumano i hope your training still ongoing and that it is going well. hopefully the op is training and trying to do something too. as for me im still training, all the best guys.
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8/22/12 4:52 AM
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Dooo ittt, definitely won't regret it. Phone Post

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