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8/18/10 11:15 AM
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Cant take credit for that tag line..first said 5th post from the bottom of page 1..post also mentioned not posting with your real name on the itermanets gives you less cred apparently Hurting Bombs..this is why we have spam...to comment on this post please post pin number and facebook ID
8/18/10 9:18 PM
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Wow, I'm amazed at all the hate and disrespect! John Will was a pioneer of BJJ in Australia, give the man his due credit and respect and forgive him for earning a living and supporting his family!
Oh and I am in no way affiliated with him, I'm a proud member of Gracie Sydney!
8/23/10 7:31 PM
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there's a simlar thread on infinite?
8/24/10 6:08 AM
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GracieboyABS - AJ, this guy is the same fag starting the same bullshit thread on infinite.



Ha Ha Ha.
i'm getn called a fag by someone who calls himself 'GRACIEBOY'.
fuckstick, if you wanna go suckin gracie dick get ya greasin ass to LA and go smoke Rorians enchilada drippin cock.
And BTW it aint me at infinite so go swing on ya mumma's saggy sausage tits dickwad.
9/10/10 12:45 AM
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well if someone can check his IP address here i will check it on infinitemma.com and see if it is the same person ;-)
9/14/10 1:06 AM
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I know this has been played to death... but some people don't realise how much goes into running a comp... the pre organisation... online entries cost money to setup and run... do you think mats magically appear? Not only do you have to get mats, you've got to get them to the venue. You do realise how many mats it takes to make 6 rings and how much money that costs... and that's on top of all the costs everyone else has mentioned.

Your logic is also floored... you rag on John for charging too much for a comp and then go off at him for holding a seminar (which he gets none of the money for)... you realise Bruno did the same thing with his Royler Gracie Cup where he had a comp and then had Royler over to do a seminar. I personally think it's great that John brings over Rigan and Bruno brings over Royler to not only attend the tournament but to also do seminars for the studnets. Why do you not rag on Bruno? Or what about the Pan Pacs... way more competitors and more expensive and no prizes either. The fact is you're looking for any excuse to start an arguement.

The only comps that I'm aware of that provide prizes for the competitors still are the Machado Nationals and Events BJJ.

Also it's a Machado comp, it's called the Gathering. It's a chance for Machado students to gather in one place, compete and also socialise and get to know each other so members around the country can get to know each other. It's also and opportunity for the instructors and black belts to get together. So if you're not a Machado then you're an idiot for even bringing this up as it has nothing to do with you. If you are Machado and you're not happy about it then there are plenty of other BJJ organisations you can join instead.

The fact is John Will is the Australian Pioneer for BJJ in this country. Without him we wouldn't have the depth of BJJ we do now.

Elvis

9/19/10 9:30 PM
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im back.
as you know i didnt go in the comp as its a absolute rip off.
i'll keep it short.
1-black belts got no prize money this year.
2-you had to pay an extra $10 for rigan seminar if you didnt compete.
3-dont even get a free t-shirt.
what a joke
9/19/10 9:53 PM
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Leftnut, please tell me which comps do offer "Prize money" for any division at all?

You're also looking at it the wrong way. Non competitors didn't pay $10 more, competitors got a $10 discount. Why would that be an issue? It was to encourage people to compete and do the seminar.

I agree it would have been nice to get a tshirt (I do keep them from all my comps) but please don't tell me the only reason you compete is to get a tshirt. You know you can get them cheaper just by going out and buying one right.

Since you think it's a rip off, which comps do you go to? Why are they so much better value?

In all seriousness I'm assuming you're a Machado student. Why are are you still with the Machado Team if you are so unhappy about it all?

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9/21/10 12:49 PM
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What we have learnt...Leftnut is a BJJ Black belt who supports himself on BJJ Black Belt comp prize money.....Bwwaaaa haaaa haaaa...cough...sorry...respect...P.S a BJJ nomad will turn up in Aus one day from Europe or Amorica and unfortunately cause he has one testicle and his nickname is Leftnut and he will be tagged in every BJJ gym in Aus
9/21/10 1:26 PM
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Betting most people would not try bother Elvis but Leftnut is cut from a different cloth and really we all know the answers to above questions..some folks fight some talk on the interwebs..We all know where to find Elvis for a Dojo storm but not so much the leftnut..pity
9/22/10 4:56 AM
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Elvis - Leftnut, please tell me which comps do offer "Prize money" for any division at all?

You're also looking at it the wrong way. Non competitors didn't pay $10 more, competitors got a $10 discount. Why would that be an issue? It was to encourage people to compete and do the seminar.

I agree it would have been nice to get a tshirt (I do keep them from all my comps) but please don't tell me the only reason you compete is to get a tshirt. You know you can get them cheaper just by going out and buying one right.

Since you think it's a rip off, which comps do you go to? Why are they so much better value?

In all seriousness I'm assuming you're a Machado student. Why are are you still with the Machado Team if you are so unhappy about it all?

Elvis


mmmmmmmmmmm. let me see. which tournaments offer prizemoney?
quickly off the top of my head.
adcc and grapplers quest.


no i dont in comps for a shirt yet when you pay close to $80 to go in ANY sort of competition you would at least get a t-shirt.

which comps are better????
events bjj.(credit to you and the other machado teachers)
i competed once and it cost me $50, i knew what time i was on and who i was up against. i then was given 2 shirts and a beanie worth about $50 so all in all the comp cost me nothing where as john will charges like a wounded bull and you get nothing.

so does john will really have australian bjj in his best interest or just his hip pocket?
9/22/10 5:02 AM
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GracieboyABS - Haha, I wouldn't even bother Elvis.

I have a couple honest questions too leftnut.

How old are you?

What's it like living in your Mum's basement?

Do you look forward to one day hopefully losing your virginity?



ha ha ha.
again gracie "BOY" what an absolutely pathetic ass sucking user name is that?
are u gonna go to ricksons seminar and offer to suck off him and kronz cock in the dunnies?
im sure once you tell him that your name is gracie "BOY" it will be a done deal.
make sure you swallow.
ha ha ha.
admit it dude your a gracie ass licking tragic.
what a loser
9/22/10 11:06 AM
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Left nut = white belt bitch. Have some balls and use your real name, otherwise your opinions mean nothing. Phone Post
9/22/10 12:27 PM
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Whooley Dooley...leftnut is from another Planet
9/22/10 7:16 PM
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You realise that ADCC is a Pro World Comp. The ADCC Qualifiers do not garner any prize money. Also Grapplers Quest is a US Competition with a much larger competition base.

The fact is comps must be profitable. If the organisers don't make money there is no incentive to continue running them. They take up a lot of time, money and resources or organise and run well. Also the fact is that the Machado Nats are for Machado students only.

John has the Machado best interests.

The fact that you're picking on John and not the Pan Pacs, or NSW Federation or a variety of other comps that do the same thing shows you have a personal vendetta rather than a positive agenda for BJJ. The simple fact is if you're not happy with how comps are run, do something about it. Run your own comp and do a better job. That is what we did with Events BJJ. Instead of complaining about it we went out there and set up our own competition circuit and did it the way we thought it should be done.


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9/24/10 12:16 AM
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Jebus GracieboyABS please don’t freak him out!!...you know he will not respond to your request...and nor should he (I pick Muay Thai if it goes down)...as you pointed out we see it for what it is, a simple troll...but is it not fun when someone who clearly has no understanding ties to talk shit...to me the points being made in return just reinforce how good the BJJ scene is in Stralia...whatever your flavour...and if leftnut has to make a dick of himself to do that so be it...continue

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