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7/17/10 9:44 PM
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 Could anyone give me the name to a good jiu jitsu school in/near Roanoke?  Thanks...
8/6/10 9:48 AM
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WWW.HYBRIDROANOKE.COM
8/19/10 11:08 AM
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what he said...
3/4/11 8:38 AM
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Do they have jiu jitsu there?

Hybrid Roanoke has a great jiu jitsu team.
9/16/11 11:45 PM
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we have 3 blackbelts, 3 brown belts & 7-8 purplebelts all under one roof. we als have a hall f famer & a former olympian that teach our judo programs
10/18/11 3:01 PM
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Hybrid in Roanoke is legit.
10/18/11 7:04 PM
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there is a good Renzo affiliate in Roanoke

it's pure bjj, but at least it isn't sloppy kickboxing and jj taught by a 65 year old judo brown belt

*edit: olympian*
11/26/11 9:54 PM
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I'm wondering who the 65 year old judo brown belt is thats teaching jj here. and the *edit olympian*
way to represent your gym in a good light.
feel free to post who you really are rather than hiding behind a keyboard & a fake name.
12/8/11 2:01 PM
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pancadinha - I'm wondering who the 65 year old judo brown belt is thats teaching jj here. and the *edit olympian*
way to represent your gym in a good light.
feel free to post who you really are rather than hiding behind a keyboard & a fake name.


i don't know who the olympian is, but that's the way it was expressed to me, which sends me on a tangent of wondering whether it was sun tsu or musashi who said if you don't know yourself..., but I digress; the following statement was however taken directly of of hybrid's website:

"Our staff includes Hall-of-Fame recipients, regional, national & invitational tournament champions AND an Olympian."

i don't train at the Renzo school either; they are a humble group of guys that in no way need their name denigrated by even a potential association with mine. i've taken a few privates in blacksburg, but thats as far as it goes. i'm may pay 80-120 a month for classes, but i'd have to live in nyc and occasionally bump into matt serra.

if you want, i'll send you my personal information it it will make you feel better about the criticism, I'm in no way hiding. hell, i'd love to have a decent school if only for access to mats and bodies, but never for that price. i'd step up and compete against anyone, student or teacher, within 20lbs of my natural weight-class if i could train 6 months for free if I won. a consolation price could be train for free even if i lost, i'd just have to do all the grunt work.

other than that, i don't have much else to say. i'm willing to fight/compete/be martially artistic if it could win me the chance to train for free. i'm not hiding, so if you want my name just let me know and i will pm you, but if this sounds at all reasonable, lets get to it.

if no, i'm sure it's a business decision and in no way indicative of anyone's confidence in their own skill set, and at least you can call me by my first name when i am critical of your school.
12/8/11 4:02 PM
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pancadinha - I'm wondering who the 65 year old judo brown belt is thats teaching jj here. and the *edit olympian*
way to represent your gym in a good light.
feel free to post who you really are rather than hiding behind a keyboard & a fake name.


i don't know who the olympian is, but that's the way it was expressed to me, which sends me on a tangent of wondering whether it was sun tsu or musashi who said if you don't know yourself..., but I digress; the following statement was however taken directly of of hybrid's website:

"Our staff includes Hall-of-Fame recipients, regional, national & invitational tournament champions AND an Olympian."

i don't train at the Renzo school either; they are a humble group of guys that in no way need their name denigrated by even a potential association with mine. i've taken a few privates in blacksburg, but thats as far as it goes. i'm may pay 80-120 a month for classes, but i'd have to live in nyc and occasionally bump into matt serra.

if you want, i'll send you my personal information it it will make you feel better about the criticism, I'm in no way hiding. hell, i'd love to have a decent school if only for access to mats and bodies, but never for that price. i'd step up and compete against anyone, student 2or teacher, within 20lbs of my natural weight-class if i could train 6 months for free if I won. a consolation price could be train for free even if i lost, i'd just have to do all the grunt work.

other than that, i don't have much else to say. i'm willing to fight/compete/be martially artistic if it could win me the chance to train for free. i'm not hiding, so if you want my name just let me know and i will pm you, but if this sounds at all reasonable, lets get to it.

if no, i'm sure it's a business decision and in no way indicative of anyone's confidence in their own skill set, and at least you can call me by my first name when i am critical of your school.

 So... just to clarify-

You've never trained at Hybrid Roanoke, but you are basing your incredibly dismissive opinion, which you are airing publicly, on something you've heard from a competitor of theirs? 

I hope Dennis Hayes, who is a legitimate Pedro Sauer black belt (who has won tournaments and individual matches before that I have personally seen, and with whom I have rolled myself numerous times) does not take your bait.  Instead, I will use this opportunity to speak very highly of Dennis and his program, his students (some of whom are super tough, and all of whom have been nothing but courteous to me), and his facility, which is very nice.  

Tarek Moneir is a judo olympian.  I don't know how you can argue with facts.  He's also a really nice guy who I cared enough about to offer a seminar at my gym (I myself am a judo and BJJ black belt, just to put things into perspective).

If you are unsure of my credentials, or why you should take my advice, you are more than welcome to stop by my gym in Richmond, VA to train with me or my students.  
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12/12/11 12:47 AM
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no, I wont "take the bait". you know, you haven't made it until people you don't even know hate on you. I know what I & my gym have done to get where they are.

truth is, he's still quoting someone and their opinion which still causes unnecessary drama.

the highlight however, is the open criticism followed by a request for free training from the very place he criticizes.

good luck Jack, continue to do so, furiously..

1/15/12 10:52 PM
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Dennis is a good guy and an excellent instructor. He is legit and so is his school. I don't know where you got your information from, but it was wrong.
1/2/14 4:26 PM
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First, I am being dismissive for a few reasons; the main one being that he training with a guy named Anthony Huss in north carolina when he was a white belt, but just a few years later he is coaching as a black belt, BEFORE his Sauer promotion, and I have trained with them close to ten times over the course of almost a decade. We ran through tossed in the gi and rolled, and the striking nights I made it, it was padworking combos, not that that's not great to be doing but at a fight school I must have missed the more intensive nights. I will back away from being an asshole and state my point: the belt thing pissed me off; seriously, check out how he advertised himself before he earned his BB. Two, the time I have been there, it has been very little striking and td defense, mostly in gi njj/judo.

the sticker shock just gets me. I cant afford to train like I want right now. I spend time getting pointers at gatorwhich seem to contradict everything I may or may not know. Im probably wrong but I've seen programs that let the active fighters train for free in exchange for cleaning/coaching/etc...

Ive heard of a team in Rocky Mount (a Hybrid affiliate I think) from a guy at bww the other night, he also mentioned an event on Franklin Co in February. If anyone knows more about that, please tell me.

Anyway, a lot of information came from an old coach and was taken at face falue, but I hae checked up on Hayes's legitimacy (off topic... doeshe drive a drop-top beemer and if so, did he ever mention pulling over on Brandon Ave to stop a street-fight that had settled into a perfect arm bar? just wondering) but I dont have 120 a month when basically I just need bodies and people my skill level and above.

the crux of the whole tirade is "i'd step up and compete against anyone, student 2or teacher, within 20lbs of my natural weight-class if i could train 6 months for free if I won. a consolation price could be train for free even if i lost, i'd just have to do all the grunt work. I know free or free, but at least I'm willing to take a beating for it, and if i win, you got another man on the roster.

But whatever, that really it. I cant find any smaller groups and haven't heard about open mats, but my resolution is t compete again this year after 5 years of being out over a bad shoulder injury.

I'm coming across as a douche I know, sorry that's the case. If this event in february (in rocky mt?) is a go, I would love a group to train with, but are there other teams around here? anyway, I shouldnt have talked shit, Im just frustrated with how badly i need to get back in the gym and how little money i have. 30 a month is great at Gator, but you lose what you stop using.

and that's it. and Judo goat, you probably just want to beat the brakes off me, but if I make the trip... how much will it be for a private and will yu explain how it is you are hurting me? fo real
1/3/14 2:02 PM
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What a weird response Jack

You talk shit about the gym and then somehow make it come across like you'd be doing them a favor if you were on their team.

$120 is pretty much standard price.. thats the cheapest you would pay in Hampton Roads for training.
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holy cow, I forgot all about this thing and it started back up.  how awesome.

   -Man you're a terrible stalker, let me help you with your facts as I make fun of you.......I have never trained with Anthony Huss in NC, nor have I ever lived there.  I dont even know what butt cheek you pulled that from, but I can't wait to hear that story.   i'm curious to hear your story about the belt thing too, that's gonna be a riot.

- I don't, and have never owned a drop top beemer.

- i have never told a story of pulling over for a streetfight.

- dont have a hybrid affiliate in rocky mount

- you've supposedly been here a few times and you complain about doing pad work in thai boxing. Man, we've been doing it wrong all these years.  DAMN!!!!  please continue to "train" by sparring full speed 2-3 times a week, do include as many head shots as possible.   And yet, that experience here was so awful, you  came back several times over a decade.  now I know who you are.

-you complain (i see a theme brewing) about training at gator boxing and being given information that contradicts what you may/may not know

-some of  your info comes "from a guy at bww I think" ( thats just beautiful)......but wait, there's more....... -

I love this one---> you have a bad shoulder but plan on competing again even though its been 5 years. Commitment like that is why mma gyms don't exist locally and the local "fighters" in this area have the records they do and are the laughing stock of mma in the region. People that don't follow mma even make fun of those local guys.  I love seeing "fighters" complain about how people should let them train for free everywhere they go, yet  they have no loyalty to any 1 gym and don't understand why gyms aren't loyal to them.  

-you complain (not surprisingly) about not being able to afford to train.  -you complianed (there again) about training in a gi, yet, guys like Fedor, Silva, GSW, serra, renzo, Penn, Aldo, etc. All train in the gi. -you complain (oop there it is again) about missing out on the fight team training.  remember that school you went to where the guys just let you in to train full blast with the fight team.

-quite literally, every single thing you have written and heard about me from the start of this thread has been 100% wrong. I love it. I never knew grown men followed me so intently over a HOBBY.... You literally stalk me, think about me, follow me on the internet, talk about me at bars, and on here, etc.  I'm honored, but it's kinda spooky how consumed with me you are don't you think?.. remember, it's a hobby. I'm beginning to think I'm the reason your screen name is jacks furiously.. do you have posters of me on your walls?... I wonder if bowling instructors go through this? Who knew the internet worked so well under bridges??


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