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7/19/10 5:34 PM
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The Association of Boxing Commissions Annual Conference in New Orleans, LA just completed its first full day.

The day began with various reports, and the induction of two new members, the St. Regis Mohawks Athletic Commission and the Three Affiliated Tribes Commission of Athletic Regulation.

Doc Hamilton conducted a two-hour presentation on proposed changes in the scoring system, most notably the addition of half-point scoring.

The records keeper for boxing, President of FightFax Ani Miramontes went over the challenges and successes of maintaining suspensions in prize fighting over the last year.

The ABC MMA Database Committee reported on records and suspensions in MMA during the previous year. This was followed by a presentatjon by MMA records keepers Kirik Jenness and Chris Palmquist.

Then followed a closed-door session where the disciplinary committee reported on member commissions who failed to maintain suitable standards.

Jeremy Lappen and J.T. Steele directors of C.A.M.O. reported on amateur mma sanctioning in the Golden State.

Finally the site for the 2011 convetion site was introduced - Washington, DC. A call for 2012 destinations was made and responded to.

Then everyone enjoyed free cocktails sponsored by the Louisiana Boxing and Wrestling Commission.

The Annual Conference completes on Wednesday, July 21.


7/19/10 5:35 PM
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TTT for Kirik Jenness and Chris Palmquist!!!
7/19/10 5:38 PM
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 TTT for free cocktails...
Wonder what the reception was on the half point scoring system...
7/19/10 5:47 PM
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7/19/10 5:56 PM
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 Sorry I missed it THIS year ...

7/19/10 6:06 PM
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 The day began with various reports and the induction of two new members, the St. REgis Mohawks Athletic Commission and the Three Affiliated Tribes Commission of Athletic Regulation.

Three Affiliated Tribes Commission is now regulating the 4 Bears Casino shows. Glad to see they were inducted thanks to the forums own Kurle.
7/19/10 6:17 PM
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is this open to the public...live in new orleans and would love to attend?
7/19/10 6:27 PM
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deebosilva - is this open to the public...live in new orleans and would love to attend?

 Sure ... tell them Kizer said it was OK.
7/19/10 7:32 PM
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deebosilva - is this open to the public...live in new orleans and would love to attend?

 Sure ... tell them Kizer said it was OK.


...just don't take any video of the events deebosilva..... that stuff will get buried when they decide to flip flop on what ever rules they pass and then decide to rescind...
7/19/10 8:06 PM
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mr kizer, doc hamilton was pitching the half point system from what i read. any interest in that? it would be interesting if some kind of unofficial trial could be done to test it out and compare it to the official scoring.
7/19/10 8:09 PM
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profato and no kizer, WTF?
7/19/10 8:30 PM
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Love that hotel. Desire Oyster Bar for the win!
7/19/10 8:42 PM
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I bet CAMO got a warm welcome...
7/20/10 12:36 AM
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Weds be a short presentation on FILA Grappling, Pankration and the Olympics. Hope to clarify what Pankration actually is and get the sport going in all 50 states!
7/20/10 12:45 AM
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xxzygotexx -  Wonder what the reception was on the half point scoring system...

 
7/20/10 1:04 AM
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 I was preparing my presentation during Doc's seminar, and so sadly I did not get a feel for what the commissions felt. Obviously things as they are do not always work, so I imagine the reception was positive. I really hope someone tries it.

I am freakin bummed Keith Kizer is not here. Nick Lembo not here either.

I am old and beat, packing it in.
7/20/10 12:37 PM
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Kirik -  I was preparing my presentation during Doc's seminar, and so sadly I did not get a feel for what the commissions felt. Obviously things as they are do not always work, so I imagine the reception was positive. I really hope someone tries it.

I am freakin bummed Keith Kizer is not here. Nick Lembo not here either.

I am old and beat, packing it in.
We'll always have July 2009
 
7/20/10 12:53 PM
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What kind of ABC meeting is this without Nick and Keith? The two biggest and most influential Commission heads are home?

Not that I expect anything to happen anyway.......................


ttt for the status quo!
7/20/10 12:58 PM
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Haulport - What kind of ABC meeting is this without Nick and Keith? The two biggest and most influential Commission heads are home?

Not that I expect anything to happen anyway.......................


ttt for the status quo!

I don't know, Eugene.  Remember the last time I was not there:  sports.yahoo.com/mma/news
7/20/10 1:04 PM
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 Kizer why no kicks when both guys are grounded?
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Nick limbo is in the house!
7/20/10 1:11 PM
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Kirik - Nick limbo is in the house!

 in the house or in limbo?
7/20/10 1:22 PM
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CageSide - mr kizer, doc hamilton was pitching the half point system from what i read. any interest in that? it would be interesting if some kind of unofficial trial could be done to test it out and compare it to the official scoring.

I think it is something to keep in mind.  I am all for giving judges additional tools if those tools are effective.  One issue I see is that there are debates at times as to whether a certain round should have been scored 10-9 or 10-8.  I can imagine it being even more difficult to differentiate between a 10-8.5 and a 10-8 for a round.

I do not think the number of rounds scheduled for a contest or exhibition is at all relevant as each round is supposed to be judged on its own merit.
7/20/10 1:31 PM
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mr kizer, your example of 10-8.5 vs 10-8 is a good one that i think the half pt system could be useful. in a three round fight in particular, it is difficult to give a 10-8, but if the looser of the round offered no offense or meaningful defense, but was not beat up, an 8.5 would seem more fair. likewise, if the round is very close, giving the loser a 9.5 appears more fair vs a 9. the judges still need to choose the winner, the half points might make things more fair. didnt K1 in NV use the half points? how do you think that went.

thanks for your input.
kizer>>>>>profato
7/20/10 1:38 PM
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 Where is this occurring?

Kirik will you be staying longer than wednesday? I arrive thursday afternoon and would enjoy the opportunity to interview you for our website.

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