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10/16/10 11:19 PM
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chris82
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so here's what happened - i'm a Gracie Barra blue belt and was sparring yesterday morning during the open roll part of class. i was playing from the open guard on the bottom against a 4 stripe white belt (90kgs) i was setting up an open guard scissor sweep. i bent my right leg in as the scissor and put my left foot on his hip. i knew when i pushed away, he'd push back, and i'd flip him over. my knee was bent 90 degrees outward in his stomach. as i pushed him back, he pushed forward and sprawled on my knee. flattening it out bent 90 degrees outward. i heard a VERY loud and violent "pop" and screamed - it sounded like a gunshot and i felt like i'd been shot. after about 4 agonizing minutes on the mat and some TLC from the professors, i shimmied off to the corner and iced my knee.<br /><br />now - there's NO swelling at all, and only the *slightest* bruise on the inside of my knee. but it hurts like hell. it hurts on the outside of my knee about half way down to my calf. it also hurts behind my knee about an inch in - not quite at the back, but just off to the side. walking isn't really happening for me, i've got a bit of motion in it - but at certain intervals it starts to hurt badly. i can't pivot on it and if i try a quick "zig zag" step - it gives. also - and this is the big one - it doesn't seem to be unstable. instability = ACL. i have hyperflexible knees so maybe i'm just missing it. but i lock my knee out backwards - i *think* i can feel the ACL stopping it from going any further.<br /><br />i want to give it a week and see how it feels , but i know a pop especially one that distinct means something's torn and i should see my orthopeadic right away.<br /><br />thoughts, comments, diagnosis, suggestions?<br /><br />thanks everyone.
10/17/10 1:20 PM
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blakGSR
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Get yourself to an orthopedic surgeon asap.
Apply RICE in the mean time.
10/18/10 12:14 PM
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go see a physio, sounds bad....
10/19/10 6:29 AM
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go see your doc and get a referal for an MRI.
this will show up all soft tissue damage. don't bother with x-rays, ct scans or ultra sound as an MRI will show all that they will. sounds like you've definitely torn a ligament or 2 and should get it seen to asap.

North Sydney Orthopaedic Sports Medicine Centre is your best bet if you are in sydney.

visit www.kneeclinic.com.au for more info.

here is a bit of info of knee surgeons that work out of the North Sydney practice.
i have dealt with a few of these guys over the years and they are very, very good at what they do.
if you do go under the knife make sure you are dilligent with your rehab.

Dr Bruce Caldwell specialises in arthroscopic and reconstructive surgery of the knee, knee and hip replacement surgery.
Dr Mervyn Cross specialises in arthroscopic and reconstructive surgery of the knee. He has particular interests in anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction and total knee replacement.
Dr Tim Musgrove specialises in arthroscopic and reconstructive surgery of the knee, ankle and foot.
Dr Roe specialises in arthroscopic and reconstructive surgery of the knee. He has a special interest in surgery for knee instability, malalignment and arthritis.
Dr David Wood specialises in arthroscopic and reconstructive surgery of the knee. He has expertise in ligament reconstruction, patella disorders, replacement of knees and hips and tibial osteotomy, plus cartilage grafting procedures and repair of hamstring avulsion from the ischial tuberosity.

explore all options before surgery but by what you have described you may be going under the knife.

best of luck
10/20/10 6:38 PM
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Mr Dooley
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damn that sucks dude, hope its nothing major
10/25/10 1:51 AM
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Exactly the same thing happened to me. Nearly word for word. Turns out i only tore the PCL. Which is not essential.

That was a bout a year ago and it still gives me trouble at times.

Like everyone else said, get it checked out.
10/25/10 6:30 AM
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ps. I'm in no way affiliated with John Will, but i have heard nothing but good things about him as both a coach and a person
10/25/10 6:32 AM
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Oh Sorry wrong thread
10/25/10 10:38 PM
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got the MRI done - medial meniscus tear from posterior horn to inferior surface - grade 1 LCL sprain and grade 1 posteolateral muscle sprain.

got my meeting with the surgeon tomorrow - but i know a heap of guys who've done this and it's surgery... oh well, coulda been way worse - at least the ACL's in tact.

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