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11/10/10 3:51 PM
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andre
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The NAPT is this weekend at the Bike. Buy in is $5,000. I would never pay $5,000 out of my pocket, but there are super satellites into the tourney today and tomorrow. I'd probably have to drop $300 in buyins and addons, but it might be worth it.

Then the question comes...if I win the satellite, do I sell the chips? lol

Any thoughts on whether satellites are a waste of money or not?
11/10/10 3:58 PM
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Sounds like a personal choice really. IF you win a satellite would you be okay with keeping the $5,000 or playing? When I played the WSOP in 07 I won a Razz satellite (only sat I played) and sold the chips because I already had bought in. So that was a no brainer. It also could depend on how they pay out your satellite win. If the pay out is in cash or cash value casino ships you have more options than if they give you a cert or "satellite chips" that can only be spent on getting into tournaments.

It's really up to you.
11/10/10 4:08 PM
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They pay it out in tourney chips, but you can sell the tourney chips. Most guys who win and dont end up playing stand outside the registration and sell the chips to the people in line.
11/10/10 4:10 PM
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One cash player I play with said that he thought satellites were a huge waste because with steady play I could make that much in a week or two at the cash tables. But I dont run or play well enough to count on making $5000 in two weeks at the tables, and I think Im a better tourney player anyway.

Ill probably do it, then decide if I'll sell the chips or play. I really want to play. There will be some huge names in the tourney and if, by some miracle, I do well, it could reap a lot of benefits.
11/10/10 4:24 PM
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 Alot depends onm how much play they give you for your buy ins...

How good of a super staelite player are you?    they play differently than noirmal satelite or sitngo

11/11/10 11:23 AM
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wreckker, I dont have much experience with them, but I know they are all about survival and being super aware of stack sizes. It's like being on a permanent bubble until the end.

This particular sat has 10,000 starting chips and a relatively standard structure. I'd probably have to beat 20 people for a seat ($300 buy in for a $5000 seat).
11/11/10 11:52 PM
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super tight early

play real small bnall poker

raise a lil more and call even less than a normal tourney..

because people are just tryiong to survuive they have less incentive to call raises...

constatly see how ur stack is in relation to field and amount of seats givien out.


Supers can be a great value becuase people just dont play them correctly...








11/12/10 2:36 PM
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Thanks so much, Wreckker. I decided I'm going to do the super sat tonight at 8. $500+$35 entry, so it should mean that I have roughly 10 people to beat.

I'm really hopeful to play in the NAPT, although it will be HUGELY difficult to resist selling the chips if I do luckbox my way into a seat.
11/12/10 4:59 PM
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 Sounds like these are a lot like playing double or nothing SNGs which i'm not great at because I like to play a lot of hands.  You will do great though because you only play aces and kings.

Do you know how big the field will be?  I'd wager that you would do better with a bigger field.
11/13/10 3:03 AM
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There were 80 entrants. We're down to 47. 11 seats avail. Avg chip stack is 24k. I have 14k. I'm just trying to hang on, but I'll have to be a little more active to survive.
11/13/10 3:04 AM
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12th place pays $2500. That would work too.
11/13/10 3:08 AM
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One note...I didn't do the add on, though a lot of people did. It was 500 more for another 10k.
11/13/10 1:16 PM
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Went out at 30. I played too tight. I
11/13/10 1:45 PM
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 Figured u would play too tight.  That's what you get for taking advise.  Nothing can really substitute for experience and this was your first game of this type.
11/13/10 3:07 PM
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Thanks Vector. I passed up sone winning hands that I normally would have played, but I think the advice was sound , I just misapplied it.

Commerce $300,000 guarantee is today horrible format though. Short stacks and turbo.
11/13/10 10:40 PM
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Well, the 300k was fun.

Flopped broadway on a rainbow board. I check, mp bets, I raise, he reraises, I shove expecting a chop or bottom two pair (it was a limped pot).

Guy turns over A2. Turn is a Q, river is a Q. And...I'm out.
11/14/10 12:41 AM
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mnbvcxzchewy - theres no doubt your better than those 10 people. plus youre a nice guy and people like you.


What is the source of your dislike for me?

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