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11/16/10 12:56 AM
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 Say it ain't so...I really wanted to see him in the UFC.   Ben Askren is the only the only fight you have in Bellator.

Former International Fight League welterweight champion Jay Hieron has agreed to an exclusive contract with Bellator Fighting Championships and will take part in the promotion’s Season 4 welterweight tournament. Terms of the deal, announced on Monday, were not disclosed.

Anchored at Xtreme Couture Mixed Martial Arts in Las Vegas, Hieron has rattled off seven consecutive victories. The 34-year-old last appeared under the Strikeforce banner in January, when he defeated fellow UFC veteran Joe Riggs by unanimous decision at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla.

“Jay is a fantastic signing for us at 170 pounds,” Bellator Chairman and CEO Bjorn Rebney said in a release. “Jay is a world-class fighter with serious talent. I can’t wait to see him back on national television competing against other top fighters where he belongs. He is a spectacular addition to our upcoming Season 4 welterweight tournament.”

A well-rounded competitor, Hieron owns notable victories against “The Ultimate Fighter” Season 7 semi-finalist Jesse Taylor, 2009 Dream welterweight grand prix finalist Jason High, former Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion Delson Heleno and UFC veteran Jake Ellenberger. He joins Sengoku vet Dan Hornbuckle, unbeaten Olympic judoka Rick Hawn, unbeaten prospect Chris Lozano, “Judo” Jim Wallhead, Steve Carl and the fast-rising Brent Weedman in Bellator’s Season 4 welterweight draw.

“It’s just a great fit for me,” Hieron said. “At this point in my career, I want to stay as active as possible, and the tournament format allows me to do that. It’s a great organization, and it’s just the perfect fit.”


http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Bellator-Signs-Hieron-for-Season-4-Tournament-28202
  
11/16/10 1:03 AM
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Askren his only fight? Dan Hornbuckle and Lymon Good say hi, noob.
11/16/10 1:12 AM
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Another bad career move? Say it ain't so!
11/16/10 1:14 AM
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TrickyG - Askren his only fight? Dan Hornbuckle and Lymon Good say hi, noob.

 Im just saying it is my opinion that Hieron is the best welterweight not in the UFC not named Nick Diaz.  Those might be good fights, but not on the terms that will get you national notatariety.  Beating Dan Hornbuckle isn't getting you gatorade commercials.  Any top welterweight should want to be in the UFC, as they have 1-20 pretty much locked up...
   
11/16/10 1:19 AM
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Hes got few fights outside the ufc hornbuckle, asken, good and diaz and maybe some ww in japan, I think he wins all of these anyway so hopefully he finishes up the deal soon and moves on to face top talent in the ufc Phone Post
11/16/10 1:39 AM
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TrickyG - Askren his only fight? Dan Hornbuckle and Lymon Good say hi, noob.

 Im just saying it is my opinion that Hieron is the best welterweight not in the UFC not named Nick Diaz.  Those might be good fights, but not on the terms that will get you national notatariety.  Beating Dan Hornbuckle isn't getting you gatorade commercials.  Any top welterweight should want to be in the UFC, as they have 1-20 pretty much locked up...
   


I disagree that he's the best non-UFC WW besides Nick, but I get what you mean.
11/16/10 1:51 AM
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Great move by Jay. For those saying it's a bad move, signing with Bellator and fighting regularly is a lot better than waiting for the UFC to end up on an undercard.

Also, there have been Bellator fighters who have subsequently been signed by the UFC so it's not like Hieron doesn't have a chance at the UFC later on.
11/16/10 3:13 AM
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TrickyG - Askren his only fight? Dan Hornbuckle and Lymon Good say hi, noob.

 Im just saying it is my opinion that Hieron is the best welterweight not in the UFC not named Nick Diaz.  Those might be good fights, but not on the terms that will get you national notatariety.  Beating Dan Hornbuckle isn't getting you gatorade commercials.  Any top welterweight should want to be in the UFC, as they have 1-20 pretty much locked up...
   



hornbuckles gonna smash him if someone else doesnt take him out 1st...ttt this thread when it happens
11/16/10 10:08 AM
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Still disapointed with this.  Who the hell is Hieron's manager and why the hell would they take Bellator over the UFC?  I just don't get it...
11/16/10 11:22 AM
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Jay Hieron is a great fighter and would do very very good in the UFC. He will win the Bellator title.
11/16/10 11:29 AM
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11/16/10 11:35 AM
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 GREAT News.

I'd much rather watch Jay for free, and see him fight more than once or twice a year.
Good pick up for bellator


11/16/10 11:54 AM
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Bellator isn't going to pay Hieron like The UFC would have. Wonder why he jumped the gun on a company that already has financial issues?
11/16/10 12:03 PM
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Heiron must have some weird management. He should be in the UFC easy. He's gonna run through some peeps Phone Post
11/16/10 12:08 PM
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Doc T -   He should be in the UFC easy. He's gonna run through some peeps Phone Post
I'll bet that's what Huerta thought.
 
11/16/10 12:55 PM
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Sucks for Hieron
11/16/10 12:56 PM
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Assuming Bellator stays in business this should be nice money for Jay and consistent fights.
11/16/10 12:59 PM
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Peckerwood - Assuming Bellator stays in business this should be nice money for Jay and consistent fights.

 How many times has Eddie Alvarez fought for Bellator this year?  That's right....twice.  Twice in 1 year.  That is fighting consistently?  Hieron is making a huge mistake signing with Bellator, their contracts are onerous, and if he wins a belt, he is stuck there permanently.  If he loses, he just lost in a minor league promotion, and will effectively kill his future in the sport.  Unless the UFC flat out refused to do business with Jay, this is career suicide.
 
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That Welterweight tournament is ridiculously good. Can't wait for that tournament!
11/16/10 1:58 PM
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Peckerwood - Assuming Bellator stays in business this should be nice money for Jay and consistent fights.

 How many times has Eddie Alvarez fought for Bellator this year?  That's right....twice.  Twice in 1 year.  That is fighting consistently?  Hieron is making a huge mistake signing with Bellator, their contracts are onerous, and if he wins a belt, he is stuck there permanently.  If he loses, he just lost in a minor league promotion, and will effectively kill his future in the sport.  Unless the UFC flat out refused to do business with Jay, this is career suicide.
 

 That's just a tad over the top.
So you're saying UFC fighters usually fight more than twice a year ?

OK 

11/16/10 2:17 PM
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Peckerwood - Assuming Bellator stays in business this should be nice money for Jay and consistent fights.

 How many times has Eddie Alvarez fought for Bellator this year?  That's right....twice.  Twice in 1 year.  That is fighting consistently?  Hieron is making a huge mistake signing with Bellator, their contracts are onerous, and if he wins a belt, he is stuck there permanently.  If he loses, he just lost in a minor league promotion, and will effectively kill his future in the sport.  Unless the UFC flat out refused to do business with Jay, this is career suicide.
 

 That's just a tad over the top.
So you're saying UFC fighters usually fight more than twice a year ?

OK 


Actually, yes they do.
Jon Fitch, Josh Koscheck, Dan Hardy, Martin Kampmann, Diego Sanchez, Nate Diaz, Paulo Thiago, John Hathaway, John Howard, and a few others in the UFC's welterweight division fought 3 times last year.
Not all of the fighters fought more than twice, but you see by the names listed above that many do.

As for Hieron signing with Bellator, I think it's a good move. As long as he's not with Strikeforce, where the entire promotion is just chaotic as far as matchmaking/title shots. Askren is going to need new challengers, and Hieron should bring a decent challenge if he makes it to the final. He's going to have to get through Hornbuckle first, which is no easy task.
I expected him to sign with Bellator since his manager is Ken Pavia. Basically that means any fighter represented by Pav will not be getting inked by the UFC anytime soon.
11/16/10 3:18 PM
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EBM - Bellator isn't going to pay Hieron like The UFC would have.


If they stay in business and he wins the tourney, he can make more in Bellator. The tourney win alone is worth $100K.
11/16/10 3:57 PM
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EBM - Bellator isn't going to pay Hieron like The UFC would have.


If they stay in business and he wins the tourney, he can make more in Bellator. The tourney win alone is worth $100K.

Or he could try to fight the best fighter in his weight class, GSP, but I don't think Hieron wants to fight him again. At this stage in his career, Hieron could care less about his ranking or being the best.
Hieron has always said he's looking to get paid. Everyone that's interviewed him has said that he's as cocky as they come, and he believes his worth is more than is being offered. He's right, as all fighters are grossly underpaid, but he has to realize he's in MMA and he has to work his way back up. Hieron thinks he's an elite Welterweight when he hasn't fought a top 10 guy in years.

As for him making more in Bellator, are you joking??? Do you think fighters in Bellator even make half of what they make on a UFC main card regarding sponsors? Why do you think Roger Huerta got a huge signing bonus from Bellator when he signed? It's because Huerta knew he wouldn't make shit from sponsors.

If Hieron signed for 20/20, and won a fight and earned KO of the Night award, he would have make his 100 grand in one fight, PLUS sponsor money. It's cool to be anti-UFC, but the truth is Hieron could have made way more money signing a 4-fight deal with the UFC. Hieron has to realize though that fans aren't lining up to to see his fights and has to re-establish himself as a fighter and not just a valued member of Team Couture.

Plus, he's not on Joe Silva's priority list as long as he's represented by Pavia.

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