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12/21/10 3:58 AM
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sufferingsuckatash - Alright lets also get started on the new nicknames they MUST be awarded. Every thread they get renamed.

 Douche Bag for all of them works for me.
12/21/10 4:52 AM
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Let the lulz commence!! Phone Post
12/21/10 5:03 AM
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This thread is fucking epic. I am glad to be a part of it. Phone Post
12/21/10 5:44 AM
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This thread is getting great!
12/21/10 5:52 AM
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The Persian Devil
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 who has wallid ismails contact info?

He would go cockfaggot all over this guy
12/21/10 7:13 AM
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WRESTLENOW - don't forget about the guy who is faking his wrestling, Dave/Jay/Jason/David Standish can't be let off the hook just because there is a bigger fish on the line right next to him, this is my first one of these threads and i like it. LET THE CRUCIFIXION BEGIN.

The worst thing about these guys is it seems like both of them actually competed a little bit so they must have some idea of how hard it is, makes what they did even more despicable.

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 Agreed, they both have the Cal put on them and neither get's off the hook.

I think it's WAY worse that they actually do compete (imo).  Because they already do, or should, know how difficult it is to attain the ranks they claim.  They even go so far as to act like the insulted vet that you should even ask because he "worked hard" for what he earned.  Personally, I don't considering spending a couple hours online researching BJJ  then making ludacris claims "working hard", but that's just me.
12/21/10 7:52 AM
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 This thread is full of awesome.
12/21/10 7:55 AM
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cuM3WneAZ0

12/21/10 7:56 AM
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 Off Bullshido

Team Python: "The guy I contacted said that as far as he knows Wallid has not given anybody a black belt even in Brazil. He is going to contact Wallid directly and ask him about Lang. I gave him Lang's website info too."
12/21/10 8:28 AM
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NCAA92 -  Off Bullshido

Team Python: "The guy I contacted said that as far as he knows Wallid has not given anybody a black belt even in Brazil. He is going to contact Wallid directly and ask him about Lang. I gave him Lang's website info too."

 
12/21/10 8:29 AM
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WOW. Damn what a crazy read here!!
12/21/10 8:32 AM
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 Fuck.....what a gem of a thread.  Once again MMAGuy doesn't disappoint.

1) I've been searching like crazy for contact Info for Wallid online, but I can't find shit.  I'm sure that Wallid isn't email savvy, but I was hoping to find contact info for his team or Jungle Fights(Fight organization in Brazil he founded but I'm not sure if its still up and running).  I can't find shit.  I know he has cornered Paulo Thiago a couple of times, not sure if there is way to contact him or not.

2) I'm not buying the 1400-85 wrestling record....it just seems impossible, maybe if he counts all the wrestling matches he had at practice, but then that win/loss rate is ridiculous, we would have heard of this guy.

3) MMAGuy, enjoy your trip and do your best to avoid your wife's sisters.
12/21/10 8:37 AM
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 Also, in one of his earliest conversations with MMAGuy he said that they focused on Gi training, as I'm scrolling through his pics on his website I haven't seen a single fucking gi yet.
12/21/10 8:37 AM
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 this is crazy, i know hes a fake. his whole little gang is a fake. takin money from hard working people and teaching them bullshit. justice will be served on the UG
12/21/10 8:53 AM
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 The upside to hunting down info on this guy is a stumbled across this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i60KqK7tqsA


.....damn that chick is fuckin' hot

12/21/10 8:55 AM
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I no give black belt to any guys, he ahscared about me undastan?
12/21/10 9:35 AM
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I am a student at Ultimate Athletics (Team Bombsquad) down the road from Lang MMA. I suggest we set up a challenge match between one of our high level white or blue belts against David Lang in a Gi BJJ match reffed by a neutral party. We can do it at our school or Mr. Lang's gym, to prove the legitimacy of his belt rank.
12/21/10 9:36 AM
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lemh157 - I am a student at Ultimate Athletics (Team Bombsquad) down the road from Lang MMA. I suggest we set up a challenge match between one of our high level white or blue belts against David Lang in a Gi BJJ match reffed by a neutral party. We can do it at our school or Mr. Lang's gym, to prove the legitimacy of his belt rank.

 Also get on camera a little Q&A session, explaining all of his shadyness. Great idea
12/21/10 9:39 AM
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He might be a legit purple, brown or high level blue belt himself. If not a black belt under a lesser trainer. Phone Post
12/21/10 9:47 AM
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gibboau - He might be a legit purple, brown or high level blue belt himself. If not a black belt under a lesser trainer. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


LOL... what? So he maybe everything but a straight white belt? lol, ok. Also, I am willing to bet we have white belts at my gym that would run game on his ass.
12/21/10 10:05 AM
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^ I'm saying that they shouldn't assume a high level white or a blue belt will prove anything. Just because he's not a BB under Wallid doesn't mean he's a beginner. I only glanced at his site and it looked like he's trained some blue belts who did well in local tournaments. Obviously he's rolling with them as well. Phone Post
12/21/10 10:09 AM
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gibboau - ^ I'm saying that they shouldn't assume a high level white or a blue belt will prove anything. Just because he's not a BB under Wallid doesn't mean he's a beginner. I only glanced at his site and it looked like he's trained some blue belts who did well in local tournaments. Obviously he's rolling with them as well. Phone Post


You could be right, but I'll add that in my experience the worst blue belts come from the best schools. I've seen it happen pretty often that in the beginner divisions the guys from the crap academies seem to learn about 100 submissions in their first six months, and then they spaz out and power everything and catch guys from the better academies who have been learning to relax and move their hips and such. Of course, by the time they get to the advanced divisions the guys from the better academies absolutely trounce the same guys who beat them as beginners. Just what I've noticed.
12/21/10 10:18 AM
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RaginRedneck169 -  Also, in one of his earliest conversations with MMAGuy he said that they focused on Gi training, as I'm scrolling through his pics on his website I haven't seen a single fucking gi yet.

That and the NAGA pictues got me to look into the NAGA results and other tournaments to find anybody under Lang MMA at all and the search produced nothing.  There's one picture with some guys hold the 1,2nd,3rd place banner, but I didn't see anybody under Lang MMA in  the results for that naga event.  All the pictures were nogi.  The 20 laps with ground and pound is the main training component at the academy.  

Damn, changing the website like that makes him look guilty as hell.  If he is so proud of his ranking under Wallid, why take it off your website when being questioned about it?  
12/21/10 10:20 AM
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Rhymenoceros - 
gibboau - ^ I'm saying that they shouldn't assume a high level white or a blue belt will prove anything. Just because he's not a BB under Wallid doesn't mean he's a beginner. I only glanced at his site and it looked like he's trained some blue belts who did well in local tournaments. Obviously he's rolling with them as well. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


You could be right, but I'll add that in my experience the worst blue belts come from the best schools. I've seen it happen pretty often that in the beginner divisions the guys from the crap academies seem to learn about 100 submissions in their first six months, and then they spaz out and power everything and catch guys from the better academies who have been learning to relax and move their hips and such. Of course, by the time they get to the advanced divisions the guys from the better academies absolutely trounce the same guys who beat them as beginners. Just what I've noticed.


This is exactly correct. Except I see the change start to happen where they start getting smashed is towards the end of the blue belt cycle. That is when our guys start winning all the tourneys and move up.

Secondly, this guy has not trained any blue belts to win anything. One old guy placed second in no-go in the masters division. I have seen someone place second by going 0-1 before in a tourney. Masters does not have a lot of people show up even for Naga.

Lastly, I see your point gibboau. Sorry for coming off kinda like an ass.
12/21/10 10:23 AM
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mmaguy30 - I challenge my UG brotheren to FIND ME CONTACT INFO FOR WALLID!!

Nothing would be a better Christmas gift than this...



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