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I wouldn't necessarily expect anybody to be able to wade into this thread and make much sense of it. It was one of my primary reasons for publishing the more straight forward articles on the Police Gazette, which covers a wide variety of news in the Southern Tier area.

 

 But the work of people contributing to this thread ended up being very important for getting to David Oliveira, which led to Lang getting thrown out of the school he was renting space in most recently. 

2/3/14 8:49 PM
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Also, looking back over that, I would say Robert had been prepped by Lang, since Robert is the one who mentioned that I'm not "professional" and use "swears." I didn't present myself to Robert as anything aside from somebody trying to clue him in on Lang. 

2/3/14 8:51 PM
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Bleacher Report and Boxing Insider, for two. I pay my car note and insurance each month writing for BR. 


No, I just meant what does "national website" mean? I don't think I've ever heard anyone use that expression. But I think I can see what you mean. No disrespect intended.
2/3/14 8:55 PM
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Also, Bungle didn't only send a link to this thread. He sent links to the stories first. But this thread is a much more complete version of the entire story. I'm not even sure I'll end up being able to work the Brad Wood stuff into my series for the Police Gazette, and I've written some funny stuff about that episode. But I'm also pretty certain this will be a book, though I will have to believe I can make some money off it to decide it's worth that much time. I am not doing this David Lang series in a "professional" capacity. I write for the Gazette because I know a lot of fighters and boxers in the area and want to write about them locally and if the Gazette gets big again, it will be nice to be on the ground floor of bringing them back to glory. Although, even though I am not getting paid to write about Lang this time around, I would contend that my research and pursuit of leads and sources has been far more professional than anything I routinely see in the daily fishwraps. 

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Also, looking back over that, I would say Robert had been prepped by Lang, since Robert is the one who mentioned that I'm not "professional" and use "swears." I didn't present myself to Robert as anything aside from somebody trying to clue him in on Lang. 


Yeah, I would imagine that he is prepping people: "Just so you know, someone may get in touch and tell you a bunch of weird stuff - my ex-wife stirred up a lot of BS about me on teh interwebs"

I think we need to remember that these people have been taken in, and may have some emotional investment in their relationship with Langbang Da Silva.
2/3/14 8:57 PM
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"No, I just meant what does "national website" mean? I don't think I've ever heard anyone use that expression. But I think I can see what you mean. No disrespect intended."

None taken. It's kind of a stupid term, to be honest. With the internet, any website is potentially international. By national, I guess I'm thinking of the sort of old media type of access that a publication like BR has, as part of the Turner Sports Network. 

2/3/14 9:03 PM
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I just realized something. All the friends/associate/enemies/etc of Dave and Pat Lang that are being sent this link are getting matbattled to hell and back and have no idea it's a joke. Oh the ironing to bolivia.

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2/3/14 9:04 PM
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You know what might be good to help convince his victims? A condensed "Lies revealed" page. Just a simple "Lies" column with each lie uncovered in the next column.

Example: Lie: claimed blackbelt under Wallid Ismael (link to photograph). Truth: Wallid Ismael video.

Just an idea.
2/3/14 9:10 PM
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That's quite a good idea.
2/3/14 9:16 PM
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MagSlim - When you guys say...."We know all of this because of a community of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu fans and practicioners have well researched his life story.

For the full, complete comprehensive story, go here:
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/1744492/Possible-fake-Black-Belt/?&page=1"

What is a 'reasonable' person supposed to make out of all the matbattling going on in this thread? I mean, I chuckle, but there's probably a better place to send people than an 11k post thread with people obtusely linking to gay bjj sites every other page. Just saying.


If you read more of what I wrote, I admitted there needed to be a compressive, but sanitized version of this story that we can put out there for the fence-sitters.
2/3/14 9:19 PM
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I have been in contact with both Justin Stewart and Robert Steen this evening. Justin Stewart accepted my friend request so I then messaged him a warning and links to the first two parts of my series on Lang. He admitted it was a lot to take in, that he had trained with Dave and Paulo and met Dave's family who were great people. But he is smart enough to see this doesn't add up and said he would read over my articles and approach Dave about it. I also sent him a copy of the Certificate of Disposition showing Lang's criminal impersonation case in 2006 and the full text of Carlos David Oliveira's rennunciation of Lang. The guy looks like a dude who is really interested in MMA and getting involved and I am pretty certain he will see the light on all this. 

 


Tell Justin I sent him that long message, but it's probably in his "Other" folder. You should probably tell him how to access that section because until you mentioned it, I had no idea it existed. Still didn't know where it was until I fucked around in my "messages" section and just happened to see the word (Other).

Tell him I was trying to do him a favor. ANd your right, he does seem like he's serious about being an MMA fighter. That's a rare thing in people. Hope he makes a career out of it.
2/3/14 9:27 PM
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In much less time then it would take to even skim the articles, Robert responds:

 

Well sorry to say you can leave me alone or ill have you arrested for
Harassment and slander
 
Don't get arrested, Briggs!!!! Haha... slander. Tell him it's libel and that he can't have you arrested for it. Plus, it's not libel and it's not directed towards him.

Watch out for the internet police, though. I hear they are just jonesing to arrest people harassing others on Facebook.

Teeny Wang Lang has a type though, doesn't he? Phone Post 3.0

I'm assuming this happened in America, and if so, the precedent has already been set. According to at least this one asshole judge, yes you can be thrown in jail for, at the very least, twitter harassment. The story is so stupid and idiotic, it has to be read a few times to be believed.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the_jailing_of_two_trolls_its_now_a_crime_to_be_insulting/14566#.Uur7nZkazCQ
2/3/14 9:33 PM
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Also, Bungle didn't only send a link to this thread. He sent links to the stories first. But this thread is a much more complete version of the entire story. I'm not even sure I'll end up being able to work the Brad Wood stuff into my series for the Police Gazette, and I've written some funny stuff about that episode. But I'm also pretty certain this will be a book, though I will have to believe I can make some money off it to decide it's worth that much time. I am not doing this David Lang series in a "professional" capacity. I write for the Gazette because I know a lot of fighters and boxers in the area and want to write about them locally and if the Gazette gets big again, it will be nice to be on the ground floor of bringing them back to glory. Although, even though I am not getting paid to write about Lang this time around, I would contend that my research and pursuit of leads and sources has been far more professional than anything I routinely see in the daily fishwraps. 


Yeah, I specifically linked your two articles first because there was more than enough information in those two articles for any reasonable, sensible person to come to the correct conclusion. But just in case, I threw the link up of the first page of this thread in case anyone really wanted to read the entire timeline. I've never been mattbattled, so I didn't even take it into consideration that someone might get turned off (or turned on?) or think this was all a joke becauase %2 of the thread has a link for gay porn.
2/3/14 9:37 PM
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In much less time then it would take to even skim the articles, Robert responds:

 

Well sorry to say you can leave me alone or ill have you arrested for
Harassment and slander
 
Don't get arrested, Briggs!!!! Haha... slander. Tell him it's libel and that he can't have you arrested for it. Plus, it's not libel and it's not directed towards him.

Watch out for the internet police, though. I hear they are just jonesing to arrest people harassing others on Facebook.

Teeny Wang Lang has a type though, doesn't he? Phone Post 3.0

I'm assuming this happened in America, and if so, the precedent has already been set. According to at least this one asshole judge, yes you can be thrown in jail for, at the very least, twitter harassment. The story is so stupid and idiotic, it has to be read a few times to be believed.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the_jailing_of_two_trolls_its_now_a_crime_to_be_insulting/14566#.Uur7nZkazCQ

That was in London. In 'merica we are still free to tell people to fuck off and die lol.
2/3/14 10:14 PM
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In much less time then it would take to even skim the articles, Robert responds:

 

Well sorry to say you can leave me alone or ill have you arrested for
Harassment and slander
 
Don't get arrested, Briggs!!!! Haha... slander. Tell him it's libel and that he can't have you arrested for it. Plus, it's not libel and it's not directed towards him.

Watch out for the internet police, though. I hear they are just jonesing to arrest people harassing others on Facebook.

Teeny Wang Lang has a type though, doesn't he? Phone Post 3.0

I'm assuming this happened in America, and if so, the precedent has already been set. According to at least this one asshole judge, yes you can be thrown in jail for, at the very least, twitter harassment. The story is so stupid and idiotic, it has to be read a few times to be believed.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the_jailing_of_two_trolls_its_now_a_crime_to_be_insulting/14566#.Uur7nZkazCQ

That was in London. In 'merica we are still free to tell people to fuck off and die lol.

That makes sense and that's a huge relief. I wasn't sure where they were talking about, but I had a sense they were speaking about England. But I don't specifically remember reading where exactly this happened. Thanks for pointing that out. Either way it's bullshit.
2/4/14 12:17 AM
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AND HERE WE GO!!!! LANG-A-VISION PRESENTS: Dave & Tiphanie make a movie!!!

 

C'mon bra. Phone Post 3.0
2/4/14 12:22 AM
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NotRocky - I've already notified them. As I keep reading and thinking about this, old memories have been popping up.

Any more info or stories?

I'm interested in hearing those.
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This is what I think we will need in order to completely shut down Lang:

Someone needs to do an interview with one of the well known Gracies that knows about the Langarang situation. The interviewer needs to take a picture of this shitbag with him and then get a Gracie to completely renounce all of his claims (picture is very important or Lang will say mistaken identity). We can then send the link and a small bit of information to anyone and everyone he is friends with on FB. Phone Post 3.0
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JBASS - This is what I think we will need in order to completely shut down Lang:

Someone needs to do an interview with one of the well known Gracies that knows about the Langarang situation. The interviewer needs to take a picture of this shitbag with him and then get a Gracie to completely renounce all of his claims (picture is very important or Lang will say mistaken identity). We can then send the link and a small bit of information to anyone and everyone he is friends with on FB. Phone Post 3.0
Even better would be Joe Rogan actually, no doubt he would have read bits of this thread. I can see him explain BJJ lineage and the pride of it, his ranking in BJJ and then slam the fuck out of Lang for being a fraud. He is also a celebrity that even the dumb asses who follow Lang will recognize and they may actually pay attention.

I'm on my phone right now, someone send a Powerful PM to the man!! Phone Post 3.0
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Imagine if somebody could get Rogan or Dana to tweet a link to the article that would be awesome. Phone Post 3.0
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Evzey - Imagine if somebody could get Rogan or Dana to tweet a link to the article that would be awesome. Phone Post 3.0
Or better yet, maybe we could campaign to get Briggs on the joe rogan experience. I've listened to the JRE since it's inception and I'm positive that Briggs is organized and knowledgeable enough to discuss the topic of BJJ frauds and specifically Dave Lang for a 3 hour time block...throw in Eddie bravo and some OG Kush and you've got a media outlet that would destroy any hopes of David lang aligning himself with a legit BJJ school ever again.....hmm Phone Post 3.0
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^amazing idea. Briggs you should start an attention Joe Rogan thread where u can explain all about Lang and see if he would have you on his podcast Phone Post 3.0
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I spoke with Briggs and with his blessing I created the attention joe rogan thread.

Let's TTT it until joe hogan! Phone Post 3.0
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Evzey - Imagine if somebody could get Rogan or Dana to tweet a link to the article that would be awesome. Phone Post 3.0
Or better yet, maybe we could campaign to get Briggs on the joe rogan experience. I've listened to the JRE since it's inception and I'm positive that Briggs is organized and knowledgeable enough to discuss the topic of BJJ frauds and specifically Dave Lang for a 3 hour time block...throw in Eddie bravo and some OG Kush and you've got a media outlet that would destroy any hopes of David lang aligning himself with a legit BJJ school ever again.....hmm Phone Post 3.0
Why did it take 3 years to come up with an idea this wonderful? TTT for Joe Hogan Phone Post 3.0
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Dave Lang shot a pitbull in the head from point blank range several times. The dog appears to have belonged to the same friend who he has stolen all of his 101st Airborn war stories from. The motive for this remains somewhat unclear, but appears that it may have been done to get even with the veteran-friend's wife, who had lost the dog to him in a divorce. Lang has tried to defend this action by saying the dog had been turned into a fighting dog, but I heard most of what I know about this story so far from a man who had fostered the dog with his girlfriend, a long-time vounteer with the SPCA, and he describes the dog as very smart and loving.

Sorry, I've been busy reading from the beginning (I'm at 170 w/only getting matbattled 7 times) and training UFC. When did this happen? I'm a big pitbull advocate, and this is upsetting. But how much truth is there to this? Isn't New York one of those states with the ridiculous gun laws that make almost impossible to own a gun? Phone Post 3.0

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