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4/3/14 9:50 AM
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I lived in Charlotte for a while and that's where I started training. The whole BJJ community there was impacted when Professor Togno passed. IIRC, there was a huge benefit seminar that drew BB's from all over the southeast. It was awesome to see the community pull together like that...

So yeah, I can see there being quite a bit of backlash if Lang is throwing that name around.
4/3/14 11:20 AM
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https://www.facebook.com/gibalotus.jiujitsu

 

feel free to reach out to master giba and please tell him what is really going on guys, thanks

 

 

Wednesday 4:08pm (8 hours ago)
Hello Tru how are you... i'm a translator talking in name of Master Giba " Giba Lotus " black belt 5 dan. David Land has asked to him, to teach jiu jitsu as black belt formed by Louis Tango ! Giba make's a informal video talking about this guy, saying that he could teach jiu jitsu but his not a black belt fomed by him ( Giba ) ... if you have any bad information about this guy, please, contact me, and i will see wat i will do about this situation, sorry for my bad english lol (translator) ! Cheers
 
4/3/14 12:18 PM
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This is what I sent to Daniel Rivas, send the same to him.


Sir,

RESPECTFULLY, My name is Phil , I am a purple in South Carolina under Relson.

I am also a member of the online community "THe UG" (underground) aka www.mixedmartialarts.com / mma.tv

Recently your name came up as part of a long ongoing situation regarding a fraud and FAKE black belt named Dave Lang in Cortland NY

Dave has been proven OVER and over gain to be a fraud having NEVER trained under ANY legit black belt anyplace in the world.

Over and over he has claimed affiliation with many legit guys, Wallid Ismal, Renzo, Rullon Bittencourt, Francisco Mansour, the list is almost endless,

Recently he has claimed Hermes Franca, David Oliveria, and Now Giba Lotus

He conned David Oliveria into promoting him to 2nd degree BB, but once David found out he had been conned, he quickly denounced him.

Recently the following video was posted online.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=681115355262814

After watching it a Portuguese speaker said you are named in the video and told us we should contact you to make you aware of the situation.

I STRONGLY urge you to read at least the first 30 pages of the following thread:

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=1&thread=1744492&page=1&pc=12020

in it you will see that Dave forges Wallids signature on fake certificates, fakes military service, is arrested for several crimes, is a pedofile who has raped young girls, and more.

Additionally a ocal newspaper has done a 3 part series on his crimes and lies.

http://policegazette.us/blog/2014/01/19/police-gazette-investigation-uncovers-notorious-jiu-jitsu-fraud-and-phony-war-hero-david-lang-operating-in-cortland-new-york/

that is part 1
part 2 and 3 are much worse.

http://policegazette.us/blog/2014/03/04/dave-lang-the-fraudulent-black-belt-and-phony-war-veteran-exposed-part-three/

http://policegazette.us/blog/2014/01/28/jiu-jitsu-fraud-david-lang-kicked-out-of-martial-arts-facility-but-has-he-opened-somewhere-else/

If you have affiliation with Giba, we strongly urge you to make him aware of what is going on... please contact me with any questions you may have, I would be happy to offer a short explanation that will make sense of all of this, as well as show you were you can prove all of this to both yourself and Giba Lotus.

I appreciate your time.
4/3/14 12:30 PM
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Pretty fucking epic. 


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mmaguy30 - This is what I sent to Daniel Rivas, send the same to him.


Sir,

RESPECTFULLY, My name is Phil , I am a purple in South Carolina under Relson.

I am also a member of the online community "THe UG" (underground) aka www.mixedmartialarts.com / mma.tv

Recently your name came up as part of a long ongoing situation regarding a fraud and FAKE black belt named Dave Lang in Cortland NY

Dave has been proven OVER and over gain to be a fraud having NEVER trained under ANY legit black belt anyplace in the world.

Over and over he has claimed affiliation with many legit guys, Wallid Ismal, Renzo, Rullon Bittencourt, Francisco Mansour, the list is almost endless,

Recently he has claimed Hermes Franca, David Oliveria, and Now Giba Lotus

He conned David Oliveria into promoting him to 2nd degree BB, but once David found out he had been conned, he quickly denounced him.

Recently the following video was posted online.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=681115355262814

After watching it a Portuguese speaker said you are named in the video and told us we should contact you to make you aware of the situation.

I STRONGLY urge you to read at least the first 30 pages of the following thread:

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=1&thread=1744492&page=1&pc=12020

in it you will see that Dave forges Wallids signature on fake certificates, fakes military service, is arrested for several crimes, is a pedofile who has raped young girls, and more.

Additionally a ocal newspaper has done a 3 part series on his crimes and lies.

http://policegazette.us/blog/2014/01/19/police-gazette-investigation-uncovers-notorious-jiu-jitsu-fraud-and-phony-war-hero-david-lang-operating-in-cortland-new-york/

that is part 1
part 2 and 3 are much worse.

http://policegazette.us/blog/2014/03/04/dave-lang-the-fraudulent-black-belt-and-phony-war-veteran-exposed-part-three/

http://policegazette.us/blog/2014/01/28/jiu-jitsu-fraud-david-lang-kicked-out-of-martial-arts-facility-but-has-he-opened-somewhere-else/

If you have affiliation with Giba, we strongly urge you to make him aware of what is going on... please contact me with any questions you may have, I would be happy to offer a short explanation that will make sense of all of this, as well as show you were you can prove all of this to both yourself and Giba Lotus.

I appreciate your time.
One thing that really needs to be cleared up here, David Oliveira NEVER promoted David "Lil Dick" Lang to second degree black belt! David Lang showed up to our belt test already with two stripes on his belt my Coach David Oliveira did NOT promote him he made it very clear to all of us in attendance that David Lang was already a second degree black belt and the certificate he was receiving was just a welcome to the association and that he was now a new affiliate (of course he no longer is)

Just wanted to clear that up, I've continued to see people say David Oliveira promoted him and that just is not true






Fuck David Lang Phone Post 3.0
4/3/14 1:11 PM
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I really apologize if I am wrong here, I mean no disrespect, but we were told DAve was wearing 1 stripe, and told David O that he was due, and asked him to put it on since he was coming into the assosiation...


I am wrong about that?
4/3/14 1:12 PM
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Well I've done it. 480+ pages, start to end. Anyone who has popped in looking for a summary did themselves a disservice. This shit is better than Game of Thrones.

And it's CULTURAL and shit!!! Poems? Art? Porn? There is no more complete site of web in all the...web.

Anyway, good work to all involved. Awesome stuff.

I'm off to the Scott Shields thread, since that was going down right around the time I started training in Charlotte NC, but I'll for sure be watching
4/3/14 1:34 PM
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mmaguy30 - I really apologize if I am wrong here, I mean no disrespect, but we were told DAve was wearing 1 stripe, and told David O that he was due, and asked him to put it on since he was coming into the assosiation...


I am wrong about that?
That's incorrect, David Lang showed up with 2 stripes already on his belt David Oliveira explained to everyone in attendance that David Lang was already second degree black belt and this was just a welcome to the association

I understand you don't mean any disrespect, I just really want this detail to be clear Phone Post 3.0
4/4/14 12:10 AM
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Does anyone know who is the man next to retard Lang mean mugging on his FB page? Also who is Confiance Brazilian Jiu Jitsu?



































4/4/14 10:17 AM
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dsb - Well I've done it. 480+ pages, start to end. Anyone who has popped in looking for a summary did themselves a disservice. This shit is better than Game of Thrones.

And it's CULTURAL and shit!!! Poems? Art? Porn? There is no more complete site of web in all the...web.

Anyway, good work to all involved. Awesome stuff.

I'm off to the Scott Shields thread, since that was going down right around the time I started training in Charlotte NC, but I'll for sure be watching

How many times were you matbattled along the way? :)
4/4/14 10:52 AM
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dsb - Well I've done it. 480+ pages, start to end. Anyone who has popped in looking for a summary did themselves a disservice. This shit is better than Game of Thrones.

And it's CULTURAL and shit!!! Poems? Art? Porn? There is no more complete site of web in all the...web.

Anyway, good work to all involved. Awesome stuff.

I'm off to the Scott Shields thread, since that was going down right around the time I started training in Charlotte NC, but I'll for sure be watching

How many times were you matbattled along the way? :)

3. To use mmaguy's grenade metaphor, the fake homewrecker vid link was the one that got me the quickest.

to continue using, someone else got me with a twitter link. Which I actually emailed to myself so i could see it from my phone since my job blocks social media. Which is basically like, someone gave me a grenade. I pulled the pin myself, stuck it in my pocket, and started walking away...
4/4/14 10:55 AM
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hahah,


Thats hilarious.

If you guys want to see something un-fuck-in-real, go check out the Giant Lee thread. it just woke up.

Looks like Warren "giant lee" Mayone is back, and he is making websites

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum_framed.posts_updsub&forum=1&thread=2115264&page=1&pc=1857

4/4/14 12:59 PM
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  • Giba Lotus Jiu Jitsu

    Mr. David comes into contact with me to be part of my team confiance for a while. He sent me pictures in competition with medals that you won and talked yesterday with Hermes França explaining and told him that I can not give you the black belt mr. landi. I authorize you to give lesson on behalf of confiance if Hermes give the black belt for mr. landi. Anyway I will be sending in June a brown band of my team here in Brazil for the academy of Mr. Landi about staying a while to see that the condition of mr. la la landi to be part of my team, he is a Master of Celebrity Jujitsu is over 30 years of training and wants to check not commit injustice. but the process that has sr.landi with the justice of the united states, I can not have before conclusion, mr. landi to judge because that is something else I answer only to the part of the Jujitsu confiance thanks and let us wait

     
     
  • Giba Lotus Jiu Jitsu
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    Giba Lotus Jiu Jitsu

    Veja em YouTube quem é Mestre Giba vou te enviar um clip de lutas e 2 entrevista à uma das emissoras de televisão das melhores do mundo

     

    Professor Giba Comenta sobre a morte de Ryan Grace: http://youtu.be/ItsylvqsR4M

     

    ¨Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Giba Lotus: http://youtu.be/pcxsOqLCzNA

     

    Prof. Giba - Lotus (Campeonato Brasileiro de Jiu …: http://youtu.be/fBrOE2QAj0U

     

    morte no jiu jitsu: http://youtu.be/8zslO3uXQCA

     

    Mundial de Jiu-Jitsu 2012 - Entrevista Daniel e G…: http://youtu.be/WXEa2agAS-c

     
     
 
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^^^I don't even know if this is really giba or dave lang pretending.   All I can say is, if this guy vouiched for lang, he is on his own.  

my response to the above post

"Good luck sir if you have affiliation with dave lang, you are on your own.

 

This is probably dave lang I am talking to now. I will let everyone know your put your repuation on the line for dave lang"

 
 
is this facebook dave or the real giba
4/4/14 1:22 PM
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mr. la la landi? wtf?
4/4/14 1:23 PM
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This is real one
https://facebook.com/gibalotus.jiujitsu
Can't click that link to see it Phone Post 3.0
4/4/14 1:26 PM
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Tru -

^^^I don't even know if this is really giba or dave lang pretending.   All I can say is, if this guy vouiched for lang, he is on his own.  

my response to the above post

"Good luck sir if you have affiliation with dave lang, you are on your own.

 

This is probably dave lang I am talking to now. I will let everyone know your put your repuation on the line for dave lang"

 
 
is this facebook dave or the real giba
Just got on the account has been there since 2009 and has about 4000 following so it would have to be pretty well done to be fake Phone Post 3.0
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hahah,


Thats hilarious.

If you guys want to see something un-fuck-in-real, go check out the Giant Lee thread. it just woke up.

Looks like Warren "giant lee" Mayone is back, and he is making websites

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum_framed.posts_updsub&forum=1&thread=2115264&page=1&pc=1857


i hate you
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dsb, you should have kept quiet. I would have fallen for that one later today after work.

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dsb, you should have kept quiet. I would have fallen for that one later today after work.


I'll have to keep that in mind. You know, this matbattling thing has me paranoid about links on completely unrelated sights..

"OH! News about Flight 370?!?!? Wait..."
4/4/14 5:44 PM
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Honestly, FUCK anyone who vouches for dave...


such bullshit, they will come here, put on a seminar, charge some cash, and then denounce him...


its all about money.

Daves a fucking piece of shit, anyone who associates with him, even if it is just to use him for a place to hold a seminar and collect association dues, is just as bad.
4/4/14 7:23 PM
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I am out of it lol.  Giba basically told me to f off and that his reputation won't be hurt by this because he has 30 years of experience and to mind my own business and worry about myself.

 

congrats dave

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Wow, fuck Giba. They need some degradation for that. That's horrible.
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I can't even figure out what giba is trying to say in those messages
4/4/14 10:28 PM
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i'm under the impression that giba said that david lang is not a black belt under him, but if lang wants to do seminars that's fine and that if he wants to be part of his team, that he'd have to check credentials. at least that's what i got out of it. otherwise, we need a better translation.

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