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12/21/10 1:19 AM
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Hermes Franca
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 Hey guys. Hermes Franca here. It's been a while. I miss you guys a lot. I wanted to share a couple things explaining the botched outcome of my fight. I'm really upset and sad about what happened. The mma family is really small. Here's a letter that was sent to me recently. Please share, so that people really understand what happened that night. I will send the videos soon. I want to make sure this promoter(Jean Fransois) isn't involved with mma anymore.

An Open Letter to MMA Fighters, Fans & All Concerned

I am writing this letter because I have tremendous admiration for pugilistic endeavors and great respect for the dedication and courage displayed by the combatants. I just witnessed a travesty unfold that damages the MMA at its very core and needs to be brought to light.

My Name is Nick Roehrick, I currently manage a NASCAR driver and have been in the promotions business for well over twenty years. I was a Citified USA Amateur Boxing Referee in the past; and once upon on a time (2004), promoted a professional boxing match with George Foreman’s brother Roy. I have been an avid MMA fan since its inception in the early 90’s and I’m very familiar with how it’s scored.

Tonight (December 19th 2010) I attended a Mixed Marshal Arts event while in Cartago Costa Rica promoted by an organization called Xtreme Vale Todo. I was attending this event strictly as a fan and certainly have no “skin” on any particular fighter or outcome, I am completely unbiased.

I arrived at the gate about an hour and a half before the fights were to begin and purchased a ringside seat, sat down and became acquainted with a few other fans seating next to me and got ready to enjoy the show. The event was scheduled to run head up with the Costa Rica National Soccer Championship, which I’m sure contributed to the somewhat spruce attendance. The fights started pretty much on time and I was delighted with my unobstructed view of the octagon.

I am going to skip to the main event, a fight between Franca (Brazil) and Kheder (France). Franca easily won all three rounds of the bout, his striking was superior as was his grappling, and he displayed dominating leg kicks and in fact closed out both the first and third rounds riding on Kheder’s back.

Here’s where it really offended my sensibilities as the manager of a professional athlete, as a fan and as a paying customer. When the winner was to be announced there was a delay, after a few awkward moments the referee begin to raise Franca’s hand then the announcer who is French as is Kheder, called for Kheder’s hand to be raised, the referee refused to raise Kheder’s hand so the announcer raised it. The fans started booing at this obvious sham!

I witnessed the corner man (an American) for Franca pleading to the announcer to check the scorecards again. The French announcer, who only moments before I personally heard speak perfect Queen’s English, now acted as though he understood nothing this poor corner man was saying; I found this utterly despicable and decided to get involved. The promoter had rushed from the arena immediately after the fans started to voice their displeasure with this travesty of sportsmanship and fair play so she was unavailable to comment.

I introduced myself to the corner man and he tells me his name is Dave Jensen. The announcer refuses to acknowledge that he has the score cards when I tell him he’s obligated to show them to Franc’s team. Being familiar with how this process works and not having the emotional involvement of the Dave the corner man I suggest we talk directly to the judges. The two of us approach the three judges and we ask them who they awarded the fight to, all three say Franca. We then ask the referee and he tells us he too had Franca as the winner, he tells us he refused to raise Kheder’s hand because Franca won and in fairness he wouldn’t raise Kheder’s hand (I commend him for that). I even hear Kheder saying to the French announcer (in English no less) to call the fight a “no contest”!

Even if you watch the fight and confabulate that somehow Kheder won, that’s not the issue here; bad calls happen and we move on. The fact is that all three judges and the referee declared Franca the winner and told me so; I’m an independent party with only integrity and fair play as a motive. The actual judging was in fact discarded and the promoter independently decided the victor which in the United States would warrant an investigation and possible sanctions by the governing body towards the promoter. A side note, the promoter is an American and this might explain why she’s not promoting MMA events in the United States.

After talking to all three judges and the referee we went before the cameras to plead Franca’s case, but to no avail. Yet another Frenchmen warned corner man Dave Jensen that if he didn’t stop protesting the decision they would hold Franca’s purse. Follow the money is an adage often spoken, if the Frenchmen were able to withhold the purse would the also be able to decide the outcome? Yes, and alas that’s exactly what they did.

Corner men Dave Jensen fought the good fight on behalf of his fighter, but like Franca, it was a fight he can’t win. My heart goes out to both these young men and their entire team, it is so transparent that the fix was in and their cause was hopeless in this regard. You see Kheder had three ways to win, KO, submission or decision; while Franca only had two, KO or submission, a decision was a forgone conclusion in favor of Kheder.

I said all that to say this! If you’re an MMA fan don’t attend Xtreme Vale Todo, if you’re an MMA fighter don’t fight for Xtreme Vale Todo. If you’re a sponsor don’t patronize Xtreme Vale Todo; Sherdog or any other outlet for MMA, don’t air Xtreme Vale Todo. I plead to anyone that values fair play, integrity and honor to stay away from Xtreme Vale Todo; don’t support them with your money, they are part of the problem and not part of the solution as to what’s wrong with combat sports. There’s an old saying that was true of boxing for the longest time: “The only thing square in boxing is the ring.” Don’t let that become true of MMA, stop bottom feeding organizations like Xtreme Vale Todo from exploiting and using fighters for crooked gain. They not only hurt the sport of MMA they hurt all sports because fans become disgusted and apathetic to sports in general.

To Xtreme Vale Todo, have you no shame? Crawl back under whatever rock you crawled from beneath. The sporting world doesn’t need nor want people of your ilk, people on the take for short end money. I have no doubt that you will fall of your own weight given time, I simply want to hasten the process a little, because unlike you I respect the hard work and dedication that these young men pour into their passion. I won’t stand by and watch as you discount all three of the judges and the referee on what was in fact a unanimous decision by Franca, as a professional I am compelled to call you out. You Xtreme Vale Todo are scum!

I hope a least the soccer fans of Costa Rica got to see a righteous sporting event tonight!
12/21/10 1:20 AM
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12/21/10 1:22 AM
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 Wow. Thanks for sharing
12/21/10 1:24 AM
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SO why did they fix the fight? What are some suggestions?



Any large bets placed on the fight?
12/21/10 1:24 AM
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always love watching u fight franca, this is such bs it almsot doesnt seem real, wish u all the luck, hope this gets resolved or somthing happens to them jeesz
12/21/10 1:26 AM
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12/21/10 1:26 AM
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This is messed up.
12/21/10 1:28 AM
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That was sickening to watch. Anyone who sees the fight will know who really won, if that can be any consolation.
12/21/10 1:31 AM
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Just adding my voice to the support...the reports out on this event all speak unanimously of corruption. Hopefully there can be some justice here.
12/21/10 1:32 AM
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Yeah, it was terrible to watch. Hermes took that fight and won and the promoter should be ashamed. Hopefully something can be done about this.
12/21/10 1:32 AM
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It wasn't even that it was a bad decision.

It was a totally corrupt fleecing of a respected fighter.

DISGRACEFUL!
12/21/10 1:36 AM
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Shittay!! TTT Phone Post
12/21/10 1:37 AM
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Can't stop the internet. Down with corrupt organizations. We support you Hermes!
12/21/10 1:42 AM
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Wow that really sucks. Hopefully word really gets around fast and this promotion falls soon after.
12/21/10 1:44 AM
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HOLLYWOOD-MO - SO why did they fix the fight? What are some suggestions?



Any large bets placed on the fight?

I see Khader has recent wins against Drew Fickett & Steve Berger. Seems he like to pick up wins against guys with name value that seem to be on the downside. Seems like they should have prepared for Hermes on the downside still being way better than him. Maybe hire judges that are in on the fix.
12/21/10 1:55 AM
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12/21/10 1:57 AM
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 Has the so-called outcome been overturned? Wow.
12/21/10 2:03 AM
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12/21/10 2:03 AM
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Is there any video of this heist out there?
12/21/10 2:08 AM
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Absolutely disgusting. These individuals should be charged with a criminal offense. This is the very model of fight fixing. My question is, if the fight promoter is American could she not be charged in America for an event off American soil? Phone Post
12/21/10 2:10 AM
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Sounds crazy.
12/21/10 2:10 AM
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Now that's a robbery!
12/21/10 2:16 AM
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the geek - Absolutely disgusting. These individuals should be charged with a criminal offense. This is the very model of fight fixing. My question is, if the fight promoter is American could she not be charged in America for an event off American soil? <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Unfortunately no. But hopefully if there's enough noise she won't ever get licensed to promote by any American athletic commission.
12/21/10 2:35 AM
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Hermes Franca
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See for yourselves.
12/21/10 2:38 AM
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Sherdog should record as a NC...if they even record unsanctioned fights... Phone Post
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