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12/27/10 2:34 PM
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*EDIT: looks like this has gone much further over at bullshido, I say go to their thread for all the info (it's at 24 pages right now)
12/27/10 2:41 PM
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<blockquote>GenericAmerican - Checkmat's main website lists their affiliate schools, and those one isn't listed.</blockquote><br /><br />can we really rely on the timeliness of a brazilian website?<br /><br />
12/27/10 2:43 PM
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icon115 - <blockquote>GenericAmerican - Checkmat's main website lists their affiliate schools, and those one isn't listed.</blockquote><br /><br />can we really rely on the timeliness of a brazilian website?<br /><br />


No, we can't trust the website, but it's just one of the many small pieces you start putting together.
12/27/10 2:43 PM
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just saying i was training under this new brazilian in our city...told us he was a member of a certain brazilian team. he wasn't in the website until after 3 mos.

that would have been a disaster if we confronted him.
12/27/10 3:16 PM
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Ok I read the whole bullshido thread, somebody needs to alert mmaguy (though I think he said he is going to be on the road for 2 days)

All the evidence is already laid out there, if this school is still running, the UG needs to shut it down.
12/27/10 3:18 PM
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Anyone fb Leo yet? Also his number is on his fb page. Someone can just call. If he's a checkmat member maybe Lea and Rico should know also. Phone Post
12/27/10 5:26 PM
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is his name randall welles?
12/27/10 5:46 PM
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TTT for MMA guy once he gets time
12/27/10 5:46 PM
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TTT for MMA guy once he gets time
12/27/10 6:19 PM
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 www.teambeastbjj.com/instructors.html
 
 Notice in this link he does not claim black belt, just head instructor.  In the about the academy page it says they have a real black blet that trains with them, is it the same guy (Matheus Barvo)?
12/27/10 6:22 PM
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Wizzle in to out the fakers..
12/27/10 6:30 PM
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I think this one will have to wait until we finish with David Lang. Then we'll work our way down the list.
12/27/10 6:33 PM
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Yelm -  www.teambeastbjj.com/instructors.html

 

 Notice in this link he does not claim black belt, just head instructor.  In the about the academy page it says they have a real black blet that trains with them, is it the same guy (Matheus Barvo)?



Can't deny claiming to be a BB when

12/27/10 6:34 PM
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sebastard - Hasn't this guy been put through the fake-BB wringer a couple of times already? Amazing that he's boasting a checkmat affiliation now. Definitely a fraud, at least he was last time people got their panties in a bunch over this dude.

 Really??
12/27/10 6:35 PM
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icon115 - just saying i was training under this new brazilian in our city...told us he was a member of a certain brazilian team. he wasn't in the website until after 3 mos.

that would have been a disaster if we confronted him.


I agree with you on that. You can see my post earlier in this thread where I recommend investigation, but to hold the insults and assumptions until something is proven.

Even if someone is almost certainly a fraud, I prefer to keep a pleasant tone. I find it easier to get people to admit to their mistakes when you don't openly attack them. However, there are those times when it is necessary.

I'm sure there are many people that aren't internet junkies that wouldn't feel the need to respond to a bunch of people online if they weren't being reasonable about it.
12/27/10 7:16 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjl5Srjj_k

http://www.teambeastbjj.com/ranked-students.html

The first video is of the black guy Ricky Robinson who obvious was claiming to be a black belt walking to the ring wearing one. Then he got exposed so now he is ranked a blue belt on the beast website; you can see it is the same guy.

Thanks blue namers
12/27/10 9:41 PM
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3. We are the Newest Affiliate Academy of CheckMat BJJ and Fight Zone, under the world-famous Vieira Brothers.
As of October 1st, 2010, Team Beast became an official affiliate of the 2-time NoGi World Champion team Checkmat. CheckMat and FightZone are one of the most competitive BJJ teams in the world, and Team Beast's competition success will only be amplified under the guidance of the Vieira Brothers, who will be routinely visiting our academy throughout the year to pass on the newest techniques straight off the mats in Brazil and Southern California.


http://www.teambeastbjj.com/competition.html

No fucking way someone would have the balls to lie that bad on their website without a little cred from somewhere!  This guy is too good to be true....  He better be lucky David Lang is the subject of the UG or else there would be a total Dojo Storm.




12/27/10 9:55 PM
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Is this guy referring to :

Todd Bjornethun (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Todd-Bjornethun-419)


Todd Bjornethun

Someone training for 15 years and is just a purple belt under this guy in Idaho ?

Win Kazuhiro Kusayanagi TKO (Punches) Shooto - Reconquista 4 10/12/1997 2 4:01
Loss Allan Goes Submission (Triangle Choke) EF 4 - Extreme Fighting 4 3/28/1997 1 0:30
Win Rudyard Moncayo Submission (Heel Hook) EF 3 - Extreme Fighting 3 10/18/1996 1 N/A
Win Eric Lavigne KO (Punches) VTJ 1996 - Vale Tudo Japan 1996 7/7/1996 1 6:53
Win Akihiro Gono Submission (Armbar) Shooto - Vale Tudo Junction 3 5/7/1996 3 1:12
Loss Erik Paulson Submission (Guillotine Choke) Shooto - Vale Tudo Junction 1 1/20/1996 2 0:26
Win Orlando Wiet Submission (Triangle Choke) UFCF - United Full Contact Federation 1 9/8/1995 1 5:43
Loss Masakatsu Funaki Submission Pancrase - King of Pancrase Tournament Opening Round 12/16/1994 1 2:20
Win Vernon White Decision (Lost Points) Pancrase - Road To The Championship 5 10/15/1994 1 15:00
Loss Minoru Suzuki Submission Pancrase - Road To The Championship 4 9/1/1994 1 3:11
Win Gregory Smit Decision (Unanimous) Pancrase - Road To The Championship 3 7/26/1994 1 15:00
Loss Ryushi Yanagisawa Submission Pancrase - Pancrash! 2 3/12/1994 1 7:12


I'm confused - is this Black belt claiming Todd Bjornethun is a purple under him ?  Or is that a guy that looks like Todd and they are 'just going with it' ? 
12/27/10 10:13 PM
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 I just threw in Battlecade 4.  Goes vs. Todd.

Todd did train in Iowa in 1996 era.  He was born in Seattle.

I tried doing a quick google search on Todd, but not sure if he trains anymore or where... I find it hard to believe Todd, 15 year vetern is training under this schmuck and is only a purple belt....


12/27/10 10:16 PM
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 Todd is from Washington....5'9, 184 lbs back in 1997, 13 years ago....
12/27/10 10:53 PM
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 Ok....

So...I'm really confused on the Todd Bjornethun situation...

There is a facebook of Todd that is linked to Team Beast BJJ as well as Matt Hume. 

However.....It seems there is another Todd Bjornethun living in . . . . . drum roll . . . Duvall, Washington who is 45 years old.  He is a regional manager for some retail company in Washington - not mma related...

I'm very interested to know if the REAL Todd Bjornethun from Battlecade 4 is indeed training with Team Beast BJJ in Idaho.

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but if the real Todd Bjornethun is training undering this dude, then the place does contain credibility since Todd Bjornethun is a legit vetern of the sport..... 
12/27/10 11:47 PM
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There is a student who is claiming that the they had Leonardo Vieira come stay at their house when he was conducting seminars at Team Beast. Can anyone verify this to be true?
12/28/10 4:14 AM
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12/28/10 4:16 AM
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Here's the bit about the forgery:

 http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2449117&postcount=204

A Gracie Barra affiliate from Pocatello confirmed that Matt Barvo was not registered with the IBJJF. 

12/28/10 4:33 AM
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Why doesn't someone go to his gym and roll with him? If he's not a black belt, then any run of the mill purple should be able to give him trouble.

And for bonus points, record it!

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