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1/16/11 12:40 PM
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kanotoa
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As far as a franchise player how does Duncan rate? If you took his playing ability, his intangibles off the court and the positive effect he has: no tirades, putting teammates down to media, getting in off court trouble, demanding trades or couches firings. If you factor in consistency and durability, and performance who is better than Tim Duncan?

Other than maybe Bill Russel, Magic Johnson, Jordan it's hard to find a better player you would want to build your team around.

As far as Magic and maybe Bill Russel they had some of the best telent at the times. Duncan won titles with Avery Johnson, Tony Parker, Robert Horry, and Manu, hardly HOF and barely ALL Stars.
1/16/11 1:34 PM
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Duncan is awesome
1/16/11 4:24 PM
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 Behind MJ. Not by far in terms of pure basketball, but when you consider revenue generated MJ is way ahead.

Even with Magic in terms of on the court, behind in revenue.

He is better than everyone else in terms of being a franchise player.
1/17/11 12:57 PM
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That is a good point, basket ball is entertainment and a business too. MJ, if you factor marketability and revenue he can generate, he is the king. Money is very important in winning titles.

Jordan built that franchise and the NBA to what it is today.
1/17/11 1:01 PM
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As far as Kobe and LeBron I think their off court dstractions take away from their marketability. LeBron left the Cavs so he can never be a franchise player IMO.

Kobe has only been with one team but he did have that handshake deal with the Clippers so his loyalty is shit IMO. I think he is just a mercenary that will play for any team that will allow him to make the most money and have the most control.
1/17/11 1:05 PM
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 the thing about Kobe and Magic is that it's really debatable if the franchise made them or if they made the franchise. The Lakers and Celtics have had tons of "franchise" players because they are great organizations that give stars their best chance to shine.

When you look at the Bulls and Spurs as organizations, it really shows how truly special Tim and MJ are for making these teams even relevant.
1/17/11 1:25 PM
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Magic was hella good, but he had Worthy, Kareem, and a lot of All Star roll players.

Kobe has a long way to go to be in the same category as Magic, MJ, and Duncan because he had Superstar Shaq and the best supporting cast at the time for all but one of his rings.

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