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2/19/13 12:34 AM
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Alright sweet seems legit yeah I havnt met her kids btw I should have probably established that its just hard too chill with her because she has them 6 days a week.

Ive still got 2 others on rotation atm soo yeah there's that. I'm pretty keen LOL but your advice has yet too fail me so ill pull back. She is keen tho its a weird vibe between Fucking me and aloufness I don't think the friends speach is loaded yet but I probably am being too forward .

She is a pretty shy chick tho and I ended the last convo like 2 days ago with her Pissing herself laughing so now is probably the right time for it.
2/19/13 12:45 AM
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Andymac86 - Alright sweet seems legit yeah I havnt met her kids btw I should have probably established that its just hard too chill with her because she has them 6 days a week.

Ive still got 2 others on rotation atm soo yeah there's that. I'm pretty keen LOL but your advice has yet too fail me so ill pull back. She is keen tho its a weird vibe between Fucking me and aloufness I don't think the friends speach is loaded yet but I probably am being too forward .

She is a pretty shy chick tho and I ended the last convo like 2 days ago with her Pissing herself laughing so now is probably the right time for it.

nice save.
2/21/13 8:40 AM
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Andymac86 - Alright sweet seems legit yeah I havnt met her kids btw I should have probably established that its just hard too chill with her because she has them 6 days a week.

Ive still got 2 others on rotation atm soo yeah there's that. I'm pretty keen LOL but your advice has yet too fail me so ill pull back. She is keen tho its a weird vibe between Fucking me and aloufness I don't think the friends speach is loaded yet but I probably am being too forward .

She is a pretty shy chick tho and I ended the last convo like 2 days ago with her Pissing herself laughing so now is probably the right time for it.

The rotation is key, that's what is keeping you desirable and in the right state of mind. In your previous post it seemed like you were falling for her a bit too fast.

If you made her laugh and waited a couple of days, she is probably hugging the phone waiting for you to get in touch.


Nice work.
2/21/13 7:55 PM
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Nah you were dead on bro I didn't contact her but she gave me the friends speech anyway ...i just tried to play it cool.. she want to be friends because she is crushing on some other dude or whatever ...l wished her good luck and him good luck following me ( I smashed that shit for hours and she accused me of being on speed ...twice lol) she offered to buy me dinner this weekend ...as friends I think in gonna blow her off and hang out with another girl I've been seeing tho because this shit doesnt fly

I'm still not good at the lockdown part but being able to pick up regularly is all thanks to this thread bravopuas and it helps ...a lot
2/24/13 6:56 AM
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Bam knocked over number 6 for the year haha ...ended up with this cuties phone in the club and had her mate texting me and I was sending her clues on how to find me lol

started hooking up and I realised I didn't have money for a taxi so I rang my mom and got her too pick me ans this chick up from the club ..lol she was mortified I thought it was hilarious

Just goes to show it really doesn't matter what you do if you own it and do it with gusto

Still talking to the chick I was crushing on but I fucked that one up but stil really like her ...just having fun talking to her and hanging out she is after some dude but I'm not so worried about dating her now...she is a beautiful person and I really enjoy her company even if it never goes anywhere its still apositive situation.
2/24/13 11:31 AM
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"started hooking up and I realised I didn't have money for a taxi so I rang my mom and got her too pick me and this chick up from the club"

Classic!

2/24/13 11:56 AM
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What the fuck? How old are you? Phone Post
2/24/13 4:00 PM
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26, yeah I'm all class hahaha
2/25/13 2:58 PM
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Got a question for the PD,

Around last October I met this chick at a party, she had just moved to the area from out of state when she broke up with her boyfriend of 8 years, We hung out a few times, I got a few handjobs as she said she didn't want to do more because she was worried about getting attached and really didn't want to be in another relationship at the moment. Anyway after hanging out once every week or two for a bit she basically told me she was going to be super busy with work over the holidays (she works in the jewelry industy) and wasn't going to be able to hang out.

Obviously, if she really wanted to make time to see me she would have. I texted her sparingly here and there over two months and she never responded. Finally about three weeks ago I texted her what was up? Why did she stop responding and to just give me an honest answer. She said she was busy and asked if i would like to get drinks the next night. The next night we hang out, have a good time. Some make out but she didn't want to hook up. She says she just wants to be 'friends' like but she says it like she is telling herself it, not really me. She just wants a casual thing. As in shes making out with me, but she is saying to herself "we are just friend" kiss kiss kiss..A week later we went out for my birthday and she met up and we went back to her place. I spent the night and we hooked up in the AM. Actually she ended up blowing me after I got my dick about half way down her V-hole and she made me take it out because she said "I feel like a slut, I don't do this sort of thing" ..

I leave her place and we text a bit and ask her if she wants to hang out this week. She says she is busy all week and wants to take a rain check for next week.

A few days later and I see her facebook and she is at game with some guy. I look at her wall and this guy has posted stuff on her wall many times alluding to times they hung out recently etc..

My guess is she is seeing this dude? Maybe casually? I don't know.

How should I proceed from here? Should I ask her about it? Pretend I know nothing?

Give me your words of advice oh wise one..
3/1/13 2:07 PM
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Obviously she was way, way out of line. You were completely justified in your behavior. By the way that she reacted when you said it was over between you two, and the fact that she refused to delete the video - I am 100% convinced that she is power tripping. She enjoys having power over you, and enjoys seeing you threaten her with breaking up since she does not give a shit about you emotionally.
You need to realize that this woman is not emotionally invested in you in the same way you are to her. She knows that having those videos gives her additional power over your behavior and knows that if shit hits the fan one day, she can use those against you (possibly forwarding them to the wrong people).

You need to understand that she is power tripping much like an unruly child, and you need to stop treating her like she has any worth. This is one of those few cases that I would advise you to take revenge. A good old fashioned vendetta to put her ass back in line.

This is what I would do to take the power out of her hands and into mine, step by step;

1. Realize that she doesn't have the feelings you have. Simply put, she is taking advantage of your emotions and your persona. The common reaction to this is anger, feel free to put on your favorite Sepultura song before moving to step two.

2. Calm down.

3. Buy this: http://www.spyville.com/button-camera.html and install in a short sleeve polo or similar hidden camera for the bedroom.

4. Take contact like you have done in the past to say you are sorry and want to take her out to dinner. Make sure she drinks like a mule.

5. Take one, cameras rolling, have sex.


The next morning, you will have changed. You now do not give a single fuck about her, it or them. Dump her and go on with your life. If that footage of you ever shows up anywhere, her ass will show up in a theater near you, on IMAX.

Hey bro, so it's coming up to 3 weeks now of no contact. you think I should just maintain no contact and wait for her to contact me first?

BTW- I saw a pic of her going clubbing having fun on her friend's facebook wall. not sure why but that kinda bothered me.
3/1/13 8:23 PM
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I'd move on like PD says. She likely already has. She obviously has no problem with any of it if it's been three weeks of no contact and she's going out clubbing. Sorry to hear brother.
3/2/13 4:36 PM
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Have known this girl for probably 9 months. We're always pretty flirty and have lots of fun when we go out in groups. I have always been interested, but always blew it off as just friends. Her friend comes up to me the other day and says I need to take the girl out on a date because she likes me, but is scared to ask me. I asked her on Thursday to go out this upcoming week for dinner, which she agrees to. Since then its been suuuuper awkward, like she is holding back completely. We went out last night with a group and it wasn't how it was before I asked her. We are going out this week for the dinner, is she just nervous? I am confused.
3/2/13 8:10 PM
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Will reply you guys tomorrow night i'm stuck in a forest in the middle of nowhere at the moment with limited battery. Phone Post
3/2/13 10:29 PM
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The Persian Devil -  Will reply you guys tomorrow night i'm stuck in a forest in the middle of nowhere at the moment with limited battery. Phone Post

And still took the time to check up on us. Voted up, sir.
3/2/13 10:38 PM
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I don’t have a GF now but when I did, my ex didn’t like to go down on me. In the future, if I ever have a relationship with a girl and same thing happens, how can I persuade her to give me a blow job without sounding like a pig?
3/4/13 11:37 AM
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I don’t have a GF now but when I did, my ex didn’t like to go down on me. In the future, if I ever have a relationship with a girl and same thing happens, how can I persuade her to give me a blow job without sounding like a pig?

Oral is a pretty standard part of sex. (Your ex is one of the few exceptions on the prude end of the spectrum, -definitely not the norm.)

You're not "a pig" for wanting it, so get rid of the mindset that you're somehow an asshole if you expect it to happen along with sexy time....
 

When you're screwing around, once your cock's in her hand, simply say, "I want you to suck me."  (Not asking, -just saying what you want.)

Alternatively, if all clothes are off, just take hold of her & put her in the 69 position with you and it will happen.

3/6/13 2:49 PM
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"started hooking up and I realised I didn't have money for a taxi so I rang my mom and got her too pick me and this chick up from the club"

Classic!


Laughed so hard at this.
3/6/13 3:05 PM
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sanguine cynic - Got a question for the PD,

Around last October I met this chick at a party, she had just moved to the area from out of state when she broke up with her boyfriend of 8 years, We hung out a few times, I got a few handjobs as she said she didn't want to do more because she was worried about getting attached and really didn't want to be in another relationship at the moment. Anyway after hanging out once every week or two for a bit she basically told me she was going to be super busy with work over the holidays (she works in the jewelry industy) and wasn't going to be able to hang out.

Obviously, if she really wanted to make time to see me she would have. I texted her sparingly here and there over two months and she never responded. Finally about three weeks ago I texted her what was up? Why did she stop responding and to just give me an honest answer. She said she was busy and asked if i would like to get drinks the next night. The next night we hang out, have a good time. Some make out but she didn't want to hook up. She says she just wants to be 'friends' like but she says it like she is telling herself it, not really me. She just wants a casual thing. As in shes making out with me, but she is saying to herself "we are just friend" kiss kiss kiss..A week later we went out for my birthday and she met up and we went back to her place. I spent the night and we hooked up in the AM. Actually she ended up blowing me after I got my dick about half way down her V-hole and she made me take it out because she said "I feel like a slut, I don't do this sort of thing" ..

I leave her place and we text a bit and ask her if she wants to hang out this week. She says she is busy all week and wants to take a rain check for next week.

A few days later and I see her facebook and she is at game with some guy. I look at her wall and this guy has posted stuff on her wall many times alluding to times they hung out recently etc..

My guess is she is seeing this dude? Maybe casually? I don't know.

How should I proceed from here? Should I ask her about it? Pretend I know nothing?

Give me your words of advice oh wise one..

My fellow collegue in the arts of Diogenes,

You did some things wrong, and I will try to adress them for you in a black on white manner.

You asked her out way too many times. If you look in chapter 7 in the Holy TPD book of conquering women thou will find this rule: "Thou shall not ask her out more than twice if she declines."

Much more importantly however, I think you got a false impression of what she is looking for, and therefore gave off the wrong vibe. Maybe you thought she was looking for something serious and you tried to give a more serious impression upon her. This could be the reason that she backed off. Maybe she is into bad boys? Maybe she is looking for something who will choke her with a pillow while doing it doggy

This is hard to know. There are two solutions;

A: You try to analyze her initially and pick up signals, then adjust your behaviour to what she wants (without becoming needing or treating her like a princess).

B: You act confident, nonchalant, and give no signals whatsoever that you are looking for anything serious. You are confident as a single man, and you could die as a single man while being happy as shit, drinking Jamesons, shooting guns and kicking kangaroos in the nuts. This type of person is immensely attractive for women because he is in fact, hard to get. If you find it hard to "become" this type of person, fake it til you make it. What you think, you shall become.

I would advise you to take route B, as it is my personal preference, it's easier, less upkeep, and you will have a constant rotation of 2-6 women.


With all of this said and reading your last questions. If you take my advice to heart this is the proper mindset and answer for your questions:

Q: My guess is she is seeing this dude? Maybe casually? I don't know.

A: Who gives a flying donkey dick? There are literally millions of women around you. Do not think like that at all, what she does is of no concern for you because she isn't worth jack shit until she makes herselves worthy to you.

Q: How should I proceed from here? Should I ask her about it? Pretend I know nothing?

A: You will proceed by living your life as a happy man with every door in the world open to you, that includes women. You simply do not care if she is seeing someone, she is worth nothing to you.


I hope this gives you some insight my fren.
3/6/13 3:13 PM
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Obviously she was way, way out of line. You were completely justified in your behavior. By the way that she reacted when you said it was over between you two, and the fact that she refused to delete the video - I am 100% convinced that she is power tripping. She enjoys having power over you, and enjoys seeing you threaten her with breaking up since she does not give a shit about you emotionally.
You need to realize that this woman is not emotionally invested in you in the same way you are to her. She knows that having those videos gives her additional power over your behavior and knows that if shit hits the fan one day, she can use those against you (possibly forwarding them to the wrong people).

You need to understand that she is power tripping much like an unruly child, and you need to stop treating her like she has any worth. This is one of those few cases that I would advise you to take revenge. A good old fashioned vendetta to put her ass back in line.

This is what I would do to take the power out of her hands and into mine, step by step;

1. Realize that she doesn't have the feelings you have. Simply put, she is taking advantage of your emotions and your persona. The common reaction to this is anger, feel free to put on your favorite Sepultura song before moving to step two.

2. Calm down.

3. Buy this: http://www.spyville.com/button-camera.html and install in a short sleeve polo or similar hidden camera for the bedroom.

4. Take contact like you have done in the past to say you are sorry and want to take her out to dinner. Make sure she drinks like a mule.

5. Take one, cameras rolling, have sex.


The next morning, you will have changed. You now do not give a single fuck about her, it or them. Dump her and go on with your life. If that footage of you ever shows up anywhere, her ass will show up in a theater near you, on IMAX.

Hey bro, so it's coming up to 3 weeks now of no contact. you think I should just maintain no contact and wait for her to contact me first?

BTW- I saw a pic of her going clubbing having fun on her friend's facebook wall. not sure why but that kinda bothered me.

My friend,

I truly find it amazing that you are keeping count on how many weeks there has been. It bothered you because she is still worth something to you, this is an illusion.

Try to think out of the box, take her out of the equation and go live your life. Go out and have fun everyday, in some manner. When you achieve the mindset, the women will follow. It's like a damn aura.

Wake up tomorrow, go take a swim or hit the gym, take a walk, sit somewhere with plenty of beautiful women and read a book, be completely comfortable. Make eye contact with people, smile, all these things will start to develop you as a person. And when you surround yourself with beautiful women in everyday settings, it just blows any ex girlfriends out of your mind like a blunderbuss. Also this makes you comfortable for future dates.
3/6/13 3:16 PM
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MMApostle - Have known this girl for probably 9 months. We're always pretty flirty and have lots of fun when we go out in groups. I have always been interested, but always blew it off as just friends. Her friend comes up to me the other day and says I need to take the girl out on a date because she likes me, but is scared to ask me. I asked her on Thursday to go out this upcoming week for dinner, which she agrees to. Since then its been suuuuper awkward, like she is holding back completely. We went out last night with a group and it wasn't how it was before I asked her. We are going out this week for the dinner, is she just nervous? I am confused.

I think you were behaving a little too gentlemanly for her tastes. Simple solution; Call her, tell her the dinner is off but you'd love to take her out bowling, playing pool, riding a canoe, go to a bathhouse, whatever that isn't formal. Avoid candle light dinners or going to the movies, too cliché and easy places to get socially awkard. Bars are also great as the alcohol makes people relax and open up.

That will make her lighten up a bit and relax a lot more. This will ease things for you.
3/6/13 3:21 PM
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I don’t have a GF now but when I did, my ex didn’t like to go down on me. In the future, if I ever have a relationship with a girl and same thing happens, how can I persuade her to give me a blow job without sounding like a pig?

There are some girls out there who are prudes and some who don't want to do it because they are semi-feminist and see it as demeaning. If she is hesitant of doing it, the chances of her actually doing it WELL is zilch. Personally if the sex isn't great, I don't waste my time. Sex is important to me and blowsjobs are essential.

Also, never, ever, push down her head. Let her kiss you on the neck, tell her to go further down, she will get it and you won't sound like a pig. If she says the standard "I don't usually do this type of thing", you respond with "Neither do I, it's exciting!"

Let things unfold from there, most likely you will get what you want, if you don't, cut her off nicely.
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Will reply you guys tomorrow night i'm stuck in a forest in the middle of nowhere at the moment with limited battery. Phone Post



And still took the time to check up on us. Voted up, sir.

Thanks bro
3/11/13 7:02 PM
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Big fan here PD.

Went out to the bar Thursday night and ended up seeing this girl I go to school with as well as work with during our clinical hours and who I actually really like. We get a long great and everything. So Thursday night we end up getting pretty drunk, she invites me back to her place where we have sex that night and the next morning. No awkward silence or anything like that. It's a great morning where I give her a rub down for like an hour and I even go down on her for quite a bit.

Friday and Saturday at clinical we talk a little bit but nothing serious and I ask her what she was up to over the weekend where she just says "drinking". I leave it at that and see her late Saturday night where she is clearly intoxicated and again I just talk to her with a little and then she leaves the bar.

I see this girl every day and would really like another chance at her.

How should I approach this?
3/12/13 1:54 AM
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3/13/13 2:25 AM
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I don’t have a GF now but when I did, my ex didn’t like to go down on me. In the future, if I ever have a relationship with a girl and same thing happens, how can I persuade her to give me a blow job without sounding like a pig?

There are some girls out there who are prudes and some who don't want to do it because they are semi-feminist and see it as demeaning. If she is hesitant of doing it, the chances of her actually doing it WELL is zilch. Personally if the sex isn't great, I don't waste my time. Sex is important to me and blowsjobs are essential.

Also, never, ever, push down her head. Let her kiss you on the neck, tell her to go further down, she will get it and you won't sound like a pig. If she says the standard "I don't usually do this type of thing", you respond with "Neither do I, it's exciting!"

Let things unfold from there, most likely you will get what you want, if you don't, cut her off nicely.

thanks, I'll keep that in mind for the next girl I date.


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