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4/6/13 9:23 AM
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iqwrestler - Alright persian, bitches be crazy. I'm a sophomore in college and she's a freshy. We met and mingled a bit at a couple parties and when I hadn't seen her in a while I got her number from her online. I set up a first date and I was just getting her comfort up. We cuddled watched a movie and then I kissed her goodnight, all good. I tell her I want to see her again soon a couple days after and she says "I'd like that :)" Then I think I screwed up a little by giving her an option of either seeing me friday at my place or a party Saturday. She says its up to me so I tell her "well your definitely welcome to come chill friday. I'm going out thurs and sat so I'll probably just be hanging out that night" Then she stops responding. If I had to guess I think I should have told her what to do a little more and not give her any power right? How should I proceed with this shit? It's only been a day.

When you said "I'm going out thurs and sat so I'll probably just be hanging out that night" you made it sound like she is insignificant and the only reason you asked her to come over is because you have nothing better to do that evening.

She wants to feel a little bit more special than that. Right now, skip texting and give her a call and ask when she is free to watch a movie and hang out. If she doesn't answer, do not call her again. If she answers and blows you off, she has one more shot at you. If she accepts the offer, make it interesting with some drinks/snacks before and after the movie.
4/6/13 9:25 AM
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cryogenics -  Basically, I went and hung out with a female coworker 1 on 1. I've been tempted to hit it but I decided not to at the last mnute. I still went and hung out but did not make a move. She was surprised but is fine with just being friends. That is fine by me as she is a cool chick anyway. Maybe she will set me up with a friend later who knows. I have never really had a female "friend" before. Phone Post

Good call. It's actually a good thing to have a attractive female friend, especially when other women see you with her. And like you said she might even hook you up.
4/6/13 9:27 AM
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BTW i'm shipping out today so I probably won't be able to answer until next weekend, keep the questions coming until then and buona fortuna!
4/17/13 7:05 PM
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ttt so it stays achieved
6/2/13 6:16 PM
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Obviously she was way, way out of line. You were completely justified in your behavior. By the way that she reacted when you said it was over between you two, and the fact that she refused to delete the video - I am 100% convinced that she is power tripping. She enjoys having power over you, and enjoys seeing you threaten her with breaking up since she does not give a shit about you emotionally.
You need to realize that this woman is not emotionally invested in you in the same way you are to her. She knows that having those videos gives her additional power over your behavior and knows that if shit hits the fan one day, she can use those against you (possibly forwarding them to the wrong people).

You need to understand that she is power tripping much like an unruly child, and you need to stop treating her like she has any worth. This is one of those few cases that I would advise you to take revenge. A good old fashioned vendetta to put her ass back in line.

This is what I would do to take the power out of her hands and into mine, step by step;

1. Realize that she doesn't have the feelings you have. Simply put, she is taking advantage of your emotions and your persona. The common reaction to this is anger, feel free to put on your favorite Sepultura song before moving to step two.

2. Calm down.

3. Buy this: http://www.spyville.com/button-camera.html and install in a short sleeve polo or similar hidden camera for the bedroom.

4. Take contact like you have done in the past to say you are sorry and want to take her out to dinner. Make sure she drinks like a mule.

5. Take one, cameras rolling, have sex.


The next morning, you will have changed. You now do not give a single fuck about her, it or them. Dump her and go on with your life. If that footage of you ever shows up anywhere, her ass will show up in a theater near you, on IMAX.

Hey bro, so it's coming up to 3 weeks now of no contact. you think I should just maintain no contact and wait for her to contact me first?

BTW- I saw a pic of her going clubbing having fun on her friend's facebook wall. not sure why but that kinda bothered me.

My friend,

I truly find it amazing that you are keeping count on how many weeks there has been. It bothered you because she is still worth something to you, this is an illusion.

Try to think out of the box, take her out of the equation and go live your life. Go out and have fun everyday, in some manner. When you achieve the mindset, the women will follow. It's like a damn aura.

Wake up tomorrow, go take a swim or hit the gym, take a walk, sit somewhere with plenty of beautiful women and read a book, be completely comfortable. Make eye contact with people, smile, all these things will start to develop you as a person. And when you surround yourself with beautiful women in everyday settings, it just blows any ex girlfriends out of your mind like a blunderbuss. Also this makes you comfortable for future dates.

A few weeks ago, I saw a pic of my ex with her best guy friend in Hawaii in their swimsuits sharing a drink together on vacation (she flew over there to hang out with him and his friends there). I took this as she hooked up with him after our breakup. The next day I texted her "Honestly, breaking up was probably the best thing we did. It helped put things into perspective and I'm glad we did. I'm a lot happier now and I'm sure you are too. Since you are with someone else now I have the closure I was looking for."

She then calls me 5 minutes later from Hawaii but I don't pick up. She texts me "I'm not with anyone. and if you're happier that's great. Didn't realize yo were miserable with me. anyway give me a call when you can"

I call an hour later and when we talk she asks if I'm really happier now, and I say I am. This seems to shaken her voice a little bit. I ask if she is happier too and she couldn't give me an answer. She asked if we can meet up and talk when she's back from Hawaii. I suggest we can talk and meet up at my place. She asks for more neutral place in middle, I say no. Then we determine a place near my area. Day comes but she asks to reschedule, so we reschedule for another day.

Here's where it gets interesting, I suggested we meet up at BJ's bar and grill in my area. When we meet up she's acting totally nonchalant. We get more drinks. I ask what she wanted to talk about. She said she just wanted to hangout. I mentioned about the girl I was seeing and that she wanted to get into a relationship with me, but I told the girl it's too soon and I still have feelings for my ex." my ex said she wanted to talk about something before, but not anymore. After drinks we decide it's time to go, but asks if I want to smoke a little outside. While we were hanging outside, she was just standing there so I said her name and pulled her to me in to a hug. We hugged for a long time and I told her I missed her. I locked eye contact and kissed her on the lip, then she kissed me back and next thing you know she's giving me tongue action and we do this for 15 minutes. I pull away and say we should go. I walk her to her car and she opens the passenger door and sits in the seat. I sit beside her inside and we start making out again for 30 minutes. I try to crawl my hand up her shirt to pull off her bra but she pulls my hand away and we continue kissing. then I do it again but this time force it quickly and start sucking on her tits and she is moaning. I try to get to 3rd base but she resists, I suggest she can spend the night if she's tired/buzzed (it's 12:30am on workday, and it's hour drive home for her). she declines. I give her one last kiss and tell her I love her and text me when she gets back home. When she gets home she texts me back and next morning I text her "good to hear she got home back safe"

And that's it, this was 2 weeks ago and I haven't heard from her since and I haven't contacted her either. Do you think I should continue waiting for her to initiate contact or just call her? Why do you think she hasn't contacted me yet?
6/3/13 11:20 AM
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And that's it, this was 2 weeks ago and I haven't heard from her since and I haven't contacted her either. Do you think I should continue waiting for her to initiate contact or just call her? Why do you think she hasn't contacted me yet?

My take on it:

She just wanted to check if she still had any control over you.

Obviously she did, got her self-steem boost, realized you were still just a puppet and moved on.

6/3/13 12:32 PM
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And that's it, this was 2 weeks ago and I haven't heard from her since and I haven't contacted her either. Do you think I should continue waiting for her to initiate contact or just call her? Why do you think she hasn't contacted me yet?

My take on it:

She just wanted to check if she still had any control over you.

Obviously she did, got her self-steem boost, realized you were still just a puppet and moved on.

This man knows what he's talking about. Best thing you can do is forget about her. Phone Post
6/4/13 3:16 AM
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I posted a very long response to the above yesterday and it didnt post for some reason. I'll give my take on it as soon as possible Phone Post
6/4/13 3:59 AM
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I was gonna give her a call tonight to see her reaction...If she picks up I'm gonna ask if she's busy Friday night to hangout. Or do you think I should keep waiting and not call
6/4/13 6:07 AM
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I'm just hear to give the man a quick VTFU and I'll be around if I have any questions!
6/4/13 7:07 AM
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tycoon - I was gonna give her a call tonight to see her reaction...If she picks up I'm gonna ask if she's busy Friday night to hangout. Or do you think I should keep waiting and not call
Definately do not call. She is manipulating you for a self confidence boost.
If she calls, tell her you have a date and dont give any other info or discuss anything whatsoever. Never let a anyone treat you like that. Phone Post
6/4/13 10:43 AM
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Ok I won't call. What's your take on what happened? Phone Post
6/4/13 10:48 AM
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6/4/13 2:05 PM
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tycoon - Ok I won't call. What's your take on what happened? Phone Post
You showed all your cards and spilled out your heart to her. As soon as she put up that pic I would've been moving on. Also you showed her that she has more worth than you. Move on and focus on yourself for a good while from now on. It's time for you to toughen up emotionally. Phone Post
6/4/13 2:08 PM
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Stickit in my mccorkhill - How do I get my wife to stop checking my emails and Facebook messages without changing my password or getting rid of either Phone Post 3.0
I set boundaries for personal space at the beginning of the relationship. You could change your password and let her know you need personal space. She will think you're cheating but I wouldnt have it any other way, i'd go insane if my woman was reading personal messages between me and family/friends. Phone Post
6/5/13 1:22 AM
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tycoon -  Ok I won't call. What's your take on what happened? Phone Post

fren, you trolling?


you still treating her like the prize. it is OVER
6/19/13 8:39 PM
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awesome thread

mine:

usually i can read when things are going the way i want or not. This one chick, i cant read at all. Or maybe i'm clouded coz i want to fuck this bitch so bad



a few years ago she adds me on FB, she's a UFC fan and goes to all the shows in UK and Europe (we're all from the UK here)

she lives like 180 miles from me; Lots of text n FB chats n stuff. She is physically hot but a lot of her banter in these things was really fuckin dull/wird, one word answers n shit, i struggled to get the vibe going sometimes. Did get tit pics (dont still have them, i know the rules but sorry :D

then i get a mrs so i basically just stopped messaging this girl;then me n the mrs fall out so i message this girl and shes going on like shes genuinely upset i stopped messaging her or whatever "Every time things are going well with a guy they just drop me, like you did"


but what i find weird then is, that doesnt seem to follow through into our further conversations. i think my tone with her is probably far too beta, im really head over heels on how she looks and im always saying how attractive she is etc, but she really doesnt seem to give a rats ass, she will just kill the convo with shitty one word joke answers or whatever

so, my girl (now ex) goes through my phone one day while im in the bath, xmas 2011, goes nuts about this girl and texts her, "dont text me any more" etc. So me n this girl lose touch coz im like that, you dont text me i dont text you, i just thought she had gone weird n i thought, fck it

UFC Sweden show earlier this year i see her n she's like, "it really upset me that you cut me off again" so i was like eh? Explained the situation, its all cool, she gives me her new number says call me etc. Cool.

Then, next night, i'm in the bar and she's all over some guy n they go off together. She totally blanks me when she sees me... okayyy. Whatever, i'm on this italian bit anyway but still, odd behavior

i get back to uk, dnt follow up, until yesterday i messaged her. Straight away she's like, "only took you three months to contact me like you said u would"

then we get into this convo but, i dunno, she's hard work man, its hard to get any flirting or anything going with her. One thing stuck out, she said something about when i saw her in the bar and i replied with something about "your fine ass" etc and she says, "Youre too easy" - and i thought, ahhhh

i think this girl just likes the attention and likes guys chasing her; shes only young and shes defo got a lot of guys all over her. I dont give a shit about any of that and im not looking to wife it, i just want to fuck this girl so bad it drives me nuts. If this was viking days i'd have slaughtered her village and carried her off by now

tl, dr: she totally loses interest in any flirt/sex/complimentary convo, but seems genuinely upset when i hit her up after long periods of not messaging her at all. She's def got a lot of guys messaging her n shit, i can tell.

and like today, i deliberately went, "im switching facebook off now but here's my new number if you miss me too much.2 Within 20 mins she messages me but its daft shit, this playground banter thing. "you are" "no you are" "nahhhhh" *silence*

so, if i stop shes upset. If i cut off, she will follow. If i compliment she doesnt pay back, flirt she doesnt flirt back ( i think possibly can't.. lol) ... wtf

i think, she's sent tit pics in the past and dropped one or two comments about liking me - albeit ages ago - so, there has to be a way for me to get what i want here. But i am just absolutely flummoxed as to what the fuck route is supposed to used.

or, am i sad puppy on a string here and in need of a kick in the bollocks?

it drives me fucking nuts because i swear there is no girl i am ever like this with, usually i am a cunt and its me getting chased round town
6/20/13 3:33 AM
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Lol, ttt for John Joe. You must be lookin at her like a bull in the opposite field for the last year.

6/20/13 3:52 AM
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Why is it when I try and give a girl the hint I'm not keen on hooking up again (I.e. being a fuckhead to them) they become stalkeresque? And the girls I'm keen on going for something serious with lose interest?
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6/20/13 4:11 AM
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FatFrenchFry - Why is it when I try and give a girl the hint I'm not keen on hooking up again (I.e. being a fuckhead to them) they become stalkeresque? And the girls I'm keen on going for something serious with lose interest?
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You should read the thread, it's covered pretty extensively
6/20/13 4:15 AM
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Will get back to you after work john joe. Phone Post
6/20/13 5:27 AM
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Skeletor68 - 


Lol, ttt for John Joe. You must be lookin at her like a bull in the opposite field for the last year.


lol this is it, i cant figure how to get over the fence and bum the heiffer

its like a mad rubix cube with massive tits that i cant figure out; my A- and B-Games have flatlined (not that i am some top player or PUA but usually you can either flatter or ignore them into bed, you know what i mean?)


@PersianDevil - lol cheers, i await with interest.

sent you a bbm transcript to show you the level of daftness im dealing with here

actually im starting to think the nature of my responses is sort of irrelevant; by responding to this crap at all or getting involved in these abstract spinoffs, im just playing it her way and ticking the 'will respond' box

WOMEN, AAAAARGH
6/20/13 7:29 AM
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Skeletor68 - 


Lol, ttt for John Joe. You must be lookin at her like a bull in the opposite field for the last year.


lol this is it, i cant figure how to get over the fence and bum the heiffer

its like a mad rubix cube with massive tits that i cant figure out; my A- and B-Games have flatlined (not that i am some top player or PUA but usually you can either flatter or ignore them into bed, you know what i mean?)


@PersianDevil - lol cheers, i await with interest.

sent you a bbm transcript to show you the level of daftness im dealing with here

actually im starting to think the nature of my responses is sort of irrelevant; by responding to this crap at all or getting involved in these abstract spinoffs, im just playing it her way and ticking the 'will respond' box

WOMEN, AAAAARGH
She seems like a real needy nutjob! You know what that means.. great in the sack! Phone Post 3.0
6/20/13 10:04 AM
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^ exactly. I need literally 20 minutes of this girls time, after that its out of my system and i can move on. But the current pressing urge for penile-vagina interaction is doing my head in haha

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