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2/15/11 7:06 PM
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CAvemanChris - LOL at you claiming that you learned all this information through experience. There's so much rehashed "Community" techniques(Never answering questions indirectly) and lingo(example "shit test") in this thread it's ridiculous. A real natural wouldn't understand what he's doing to be successful with women and be able to explain it using the terms and vocabulary your using. Admit it, you've read The Game, if not other seduction community materials. There's no way you have not had some exposure to the community and be able to understand these principles.

Either way, good shit man.

I never claimed to be a self taught, illuminated moses of fucking. 
I am however a natural, I counted 50 quality women fucked at the age of 18 then stopped counting.

I did not know what I was doing right at that time, I have read a shitload of seduction material and pinpointed what it is I am doing that is right...and what is wrong.  

The Game on the other hand is pure crap and provides a blue print for nerds to get enough confidence to "peacock" women. 

Nothing you read in this thread is copied and pasted, I wrote everything myself. I can prove this in a live session with anyone from here.


Yeah, I never meant to say that you weren't a natural, only that a natural would not have the ability to explain the concepts the way you did. I knew you had to have some exposure to seduction theory. When that one dude asked you how you accumulated all this knowledge, you said that it was just from being a "manwhore." The Game IS crap. I was just using it as an example because it's most peoples gateway to the community and contains most of the community terminology i.e., Negs, Opener, DHV's, HB's, Jelousy plotline, etc.
2/15/11 7:07 PM
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Leigh - good thread by PD but some of you guys are letting us down - come on lads, grow a backbone!

This is the result of the emasculation of todays young men. But there are few of us who is making a rise against the female hordes. As the majority bowed down infront of their new female lords, we put on our armor, felt the sand between our fingertips and started an uproar.


Do you think there's an element of misogyny among the aforementioned insubordinates (didn't know any word to use..)??

Do you think some guys are effectively born to live such a lifestyle ("man-whoring"), or it's a path of choice?

 lol english is my 3rd out of 5 languages dude. No reason to write like Francis the second ;)

The other question; All men are programmed by nature to reproduce as much as possible. Monogamy is partially a product of religion and the story of Adam and Eve.
2/15/11 7:10 PM
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CAvemanChris - 
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CAvemanChris - LOL at you claiming that you learned all this information through experience. There's so much rehashed "Community" techniques(Never answering questions indirectly) and lingo(example "shit test") in this thread it's ridiculous. A real natural wouldn't understand what he's doing to be successful with women and be able to explain it using the terms and vocabulary your using. Admit it, you've read The Game, if not other seduction community materials. There's no way you have not had some exposure to the community and be able to understand these principles.

Either way, good shit man.

I never claimed to be a self taught, illuminated moses of fucking. 
I am however a natural, I counted 50 quality women fucked at the age of 18 then stopped counting.

I did not know what I was doing right at that time, I have read a shitload of seduction material and pinpointed what it is I am doing that is right...and what is wrong.  

The Game on the other hand is pure crap and provides a blue print for nerds to get enough confidence to "peacock" women. 

Nothing you read in this thread is copied and pasted, I wrote everything myself. I can prove this in a live session with anyone from here.


Yeah, I never meant to say that you weren't a natural, only that a natural would not have the ability to explain the concepts the way you did. I knew you had to have some exposure to seduction theory. When that one dude asked you how you accumulated all this knowledge, you said that it was just from being a "manwhore." The Game IS crap. I was just using it as an example because it's most peoples gateway to the community and contains most of the community terminology i.e., Negs, Opener, DHV's, HB's, Jelousy plotline, etc.
Alot of the stuff I write in this thread I had pinpointed before I had ever read anything about the subject. And as a matter of fact, I think all types of "openers", "negs" and the likes to be completely ridicolous.

My doctrine is the doctrine of being a man. PUA tactics are to trick a woman into thinking you are one.
 
2/15/11 7:10 PM
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The other question; All men are programmed by nature to reproduce as much as possible. Monogamy is partially a product of religion and the story of Adam and Eve.



Amen to that. It's a God Damned scam!!!
2/15/11 7:13 PM
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Do you see yourself ever getting married? If so why or why not?
2/16/11 4:58 AM
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CAvemanChris - Do you see yourself ever getting married? If so why or why not?

Yes I will definately settle down one day. That is, after I have traveled the world even more, found the perfect job and manwhored for a minimum of 15 years. 

I love kids and look forward to having my own, that is a major reason. However, im not getting married until I find one hell of a woman in every single way. 
2/16/11 1:12 PM
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Johnny -

It is definately in mans nature to want to spread his genetics as much as possible.

It is true that some guys are born with the confidence/looks/charm that can attract alot of females. But if you would listen and imitate the things I write in this thread for example, you will start to transform.

I had a friend who I used to go to school with back in 3rd grade. I met him while I was at a nightclub a couple years ago and we started talking and this guy hadnt changed a bit. Still a nerd, still didn't have self confidence, and the ladies still didnt find him approachable.

So I took him under my wing. Went to my personal barber and had his "pash" hairstyle cut into something appropriate, he started going to the gym with me, went running together etc.

Honest to god, the guy transformed from a bacne faced, emo haircut nerd to a fit, fashionable, leonardo dicaprio look alike.

The guy looks like dicaprios long lost brother these days. He was even invited to do some work as a underwear model at a "Ladies Night" event.

The guy still thanks me to this day for, and he has introduced me to a shitload of extremely attractive women as gratitude.

Concensus is that you dont need to be born with it. You can change.


What you think, you become.
2/16/11 1:34 PM
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How do I resign from my position as President of the Friend Zone? Seems like I quickly put myself in that shit...

Supposedly, I'm a good looking guy (been told I have model good looks by some) but that doesn't mean shit because I can't even let my balls drop enough to even approach a woman I'm interested in. I've always had self-confidence issues with the opposite sex. Conversely, I've never had confidence issues in other areas of my life (sports, work, etc.)

Any suggestions?
2/16/11 1:42 PM
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So my girl keeps bugging me about doing a threesome (with another girl you fags) but im not sure

I have had threesomes before but only with fuckbuddies.

Chi migi dadash!

Im thinking 90% chance the relationship is over if i do it.
2/16/11 2:23 PM
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Gokudamus stole my name - So my girl keeps bugging me about doing a threesome (with another guy you heteros) but im not sure

I have had threesomes before but only with fuckbuddies.

Chi migi dadash!

Im thinking 90% chance the relationship is over if i do it.



Go for it, dude. Double cock is double joy!
2/16/11 3:44 PM
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Sorry if you covered this but I didn't read the whole thread. I am newly divorced after about 13 years of marriage and I was with her a couple years before we got married. What kind of advice do you have for someone like me who might be interested in dating again? It is probably a stupid question, but I've been out of it for so long I really have no idea where to start. Also I really don't want to get tied down or anything (well maybe physically) - I started training at night and go 4 nights a week and wouldn't want to give that up. Thanks in advance!
2/16/11 4:52 PM
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sdnice - How do I resign from my position as President of the Friend Zone? Seems like I quickly put myself in that shit...

Supposedly, I'm a good looking guy (been told I have model good looks by some) but that doesn't mean shit because I can't even let my balls drop enough to even approach a woman I'm interested in. I've always had self-confidence issues with the opposite sex. Conversely, I've never had confidence issues in other areas of my life (sports, work, etc.)

Any suggestions?

You have realized the problem. That is step one. Step two is recognizing the fact that you are being used as a emotional tampoon by the women you try to fuck. 

The solution:

You need to try to fuck the women you are seeing. The number one problem with friend zone dwellers is that they have trouble to "take it to the next stage". They cant go from talking and having fun, to touching/sex comfortably. Try this little "trick" I developed, can be used as a VERY good tool for picking up a woman anywhere, or to take it to the next stage in general. If she shudders, move on and touch her body/do your thing.

The golden trick (certified by The Persian Devil) 

When you want to take it to the next stage with a complete stranger or a woman you are on a date with. Simply tell her she has something on her cheek/face, proceed by taking away a imaginary eye lash from her face. This is especially good if you are hitting on a stranger in a bar or somewhere, because as soon as you say "Excuse me" she will think you are hitting on her and put her cock block/wall of ego infront of you. Then you just take away a "eyelash" and she will be;

1. Surprised that you didnt hit on her.
2. Get a "feeling" for you since you touched her cheek.







2/16/11 4:59 PM
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Gokudamus stole my name - So my girl keeps bugging me about doing a threesome (with another girl you fags) but im not sure

I have had threesomes before but only with fuckbuddies.

Chi migi dadash!

Im thinking 90% chance the relationship is over if i do it.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread. If it's not a serious (future marriage) relationship, go for it dadash.


2/16/11 5:04 PM
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jefft73 - Sorry if you covered this but I didn't read the whole thread. I am newly divorced after about 13 years of marriage and I was with her a couple years before we got married. What kind of advice do you have for someone like me who might be interested in dating again? It is probably a stupid question, but I've been out of it for so long I really have no idea where to start. Also I really don't want to get tied down or anything (well maybe physically) - I started training at night and go 4 nights a week and wouldn't want to give that up. Thanks in advance!

The problem when you have a very long relationship is the fact that you get stuck in a route. You do the same things, see the same people and places. You need to change your social circle to a more....relevant one. Such as people in the same situation as yourself, single guys who party etc. You need to put yourself out there. Keep working out, get new clothes, hang out in new places with new people. If somebody introduces you to someone, make sure to get to know them....you never know where you will end up. 
2/16/11 5:33 PM
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 Want to get my wife worked up in a fuck frenzy tonight.  Sex has been kinda lame the last couple of weeks.  Tidbits of info that might help you: We've been married for 10 years and together for 12, we have 4 kids youngest being 2, although we've been together forever I am 30 and she is 29.  She's brunette, shaves her snatch completely, 5'4" 107lbs and really likes the show "How I met your Mother."  Also has implants.

Don't ask for pics cuz that ain't happening, unless she cheats on me then I will share with the world.
2/16/11 5:47 PM
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sczott52 -  Want to get my wife worked up in a fuck frenzy tonight.  Sex has been kinda lame the last couple of weeks.  Tidbits of info that might help you: We've been married for 10 years and together for 12, we have 4 kids youngest being 2, although we've been together forever I am 30 and she is 29.  She's brunette, shaves her snatch completely, 5'4" 107lbs and really likes the show "How I met your Mother."  Also has implants.

Don't ask for pics cuz that ain't happening, unless she cheats on me then I will share with the world.

Usually women just follow your rhytm, the more of a testosterone machine you are, the more she will play into it. Of course stuff like role playing, shady hotel rooms, roomy backseats and toys can help.
2/16/11 6:07 PM
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Appreciate the response...and "emotional tampon" is the perfect description for what it's like. I'm not really interested in any of my current friends I just don't need any more damn friends. Next time I'm out I'll try your imaginary eyelash idea if my balls drop.
2/17/11 3:34 AM
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The Persian Devil - 
jefft73 - Sorry if you covered this but I didn't read the whole thread. I am newly divorced after about 13 years of marriage and I was with her a couple years before we got married. What kind of advice do you have for someone like me who might be interested in dating again? It is probably a stupid question, but I've been out of it for so long I really have no idea where to start. Also I really don't want to get tied down or anything (well maybe physically) - I started training at night and go 4 nights a week and wouldn't want to give that up. Thanks in advance!

The problem when you have a very long relationship is the fact that you get stuck in a route. You do the same things, see the same people and places. You need to change your social circle to a more....relevant one. Such as people in the same situation as yourself, single guys who party etc. You need to put yourself out there. Keep working out, get new clothes, hang out in new places with new people. If somebody introduces you to someone, make sure to get to know them....you never know where you will end up. 


Sounds good - thanks!
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the guru is taking calls.

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2/17/11 7:11 PM
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The mrs said goodnight, let's have sex in the morning after the kids are off to school.

But, I'm horny right now.

Should I watch internet porn for a few hours or not?
2/18/11 4:19 AM
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CDarwin - The mrs said goodnight, let's have sex in the morning after the kids are off to school.

But, I'm horny right now.

Should I watch internet porn for a few hours or not?

Sorry for late response, time difference - how does it work?

I recommend Tori Black in her new scene with Rocco. 

I would however try to save up some testosterone and ravage the wife in the morning.  
2/18/11 9:44 AM
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JohnnyBGood - Do women really get seriously pissed if a bloke was to fuck them and not call them, or something.

Do they not just enjoy the good fuck, assuming it's a good fuck, and if they see the bloke again, it's happydays.
If not, so be it.

Do women naturally lean toward a relationship (aside from sluts maybe)?

And what if the slut is just plain attracted to the guy and fucks him, as oppose to just fucking some random'er to get her jollies?

She can't help who she's attracted to, right?

When you fuck a woman, you have "conquered" her. She is on the list. After you have fucked her, she will be totally under your power if you know what you are doing and you weren't dressed in a gimp suit during the sex. 

Many women just want to have a very short relationship with you post sex to confirm that they are not sluts/feel like a whore. They will proceed by dumping you after this fact if they were not genuinely attracted to you before the sex. 

After a while, it's pretty easy to distinguish which girls you fuck just want to jump into a relationship to confirm their purity - and the ones that genuily like you alot and wants something real.

And yes, women are naturally programmed to want a relationship. In pre-modern times the woman needed a man who could protect her.
  
2/18/11 10:44 AM
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^^^ money ^^^ Status ^^^ influence ^^^ a host of other reasons. women will fuck anything if they can identify a reason that suits their purposes
2/18/11 3:05 PM
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JohnnyBGood - See, there was this other poster, Radiant, that was claiming there's something called an "oxytoxin bond" (I don't know what it is either) and it forms between the male and the female.

It only forms though, if there is an actually chemical attraction on behalf of the woman.

An she was claiming that apparently it's "agony" for a woman to fuck a guy she's actually chemically attracted to, and to be dumped after.

**

Let me come at it from a different angle.

What if a guy was to fuck a broad, and then lead her on into believing that he really likes her etc, so she would get the sense that he might want a relationship with her - but doesn't follow through on that.

Is that where things like, "heartbreak", go down?

I have no idea what oxycontin bond is and I dont think it matters really. I try not to analyze insignificant stuff, it throws me off my game.

I have done the thing you mentioned, leading her on but not actually wanting to commit. I have actually done it so much I am quite an expert at it. Heartbreak could happen through there or many other various scenarios.

What I meant by attracted in the previous post was a girl being in love with you. She has to be attracted to you for her to be able to have sex. She can be attracted to you because of money, power, status etc but that is not what we are focusing on here. Attraction and love is to vastly different things.

This thread is about making a woman attracted to you, not the things you own, not your appearance or your money.
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JohnnyBGood - So, is leading them on; that's effectively a means to make them attracted to you, right?

It can be. But it's not the best way to go about. The best way is attracting a girl by being honest.

As oppose to status, money etc?

Or, leading them on; that's a MEANS to making them attracted, right?

Yes it is just a means to fuck her. Leading them on means acting like you want a relationship with her while you are only thinking about fucking her and nothing more.
This is not what you want to develop your game around. You want sincere seduction, not one based on lying and deceiving.

But there are other ways..

Say for example, really sexual men.
Girls are just naturally attracted to them anyway, without any real leading on?

See previous response. Leading them on has little to do with attraction.

Doesn't leading them on cause them some grief and shit, at a later stage?

Yes it does. That's why it's better to be honest and keep her as a friend even after your one night stand together. She probably has friends.

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Love; isn't that what you tell a girl when you want her to know she basically has free reign over you provided she keeps up the good fucking?

You never tell her you love her unless you are proposing/getting married. It's acceptable to say it if you have had a very long relationship together though.

How is a girl to fall in love with a bloke unless/until he makes her attracted to him anyway?

Thats not possible. For a girl to fall in love, she needs to be attracted.


Bare with me.

Im trying. You really should bundle your questions together though.
I'm gradually getting perspective on where you coming from, gradually.

Nice work on these replies BTW

The guru aint no bitch. Ooorah!

  

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