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2/23/11 4:48 PM
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andre
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2/23/11 7:16 PM
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You playing full-time now Andre?

2/24/11 2:48 AM
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Right now it is my only income aside from teaching BJJ. I left my job at Mattel because I wanted to finish up some other plans I had and because I was making much more money in poker.
2/24/11 3:48 AM
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 Seems like you are doing well....
2/24/11 3:25 PM
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andre - Right now it is my only income aside from teaching BJJ. I left my job at Mattel because I wanted to finish up some other plans I had and because I was making much more money in poker.


Been interesting to watch your poker development over the last few months.
You seem to be having a lot of success.

I’m just curious about why you stopped playing the $1/$2 online cash games that you were playing in.
You seemed to be doing well in those also.

2/24/11 4:51 PM
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 Andre save your money!

I have another friend who just started playing full time and is doing well playing 5-10 and  some 10-20.

He thinks he can;t  lose or chances of losing 5-6 days in a row or have a losing month in games that soft just wont happen....it will.

The thing is when you run bad live it can take awhile to overcome losing some biug pots or overcome running way below EV

Im not trying to sound negative, and I belive the results you are having are because you are betterthan average competition you are against.

JUst save enough so you can weather the doomswitch that will eventually come...so you wont have to drop down in stakes.

Those games are good enough  you can build a nice roll and play full time.MY friend is telling how crazy it is down there..he has been playing at hawain gardens alot.












2/24/11 7:40 PM
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SiftMyMind - I’m just curious about why you stopped playing the $1/$2 online cash games that you were playing in.
You seemed to be doing well in those also.


 [ ] big enough sample size to gauge his success at those stakes.

The fact is that he probably doesn't have enough experience to be successful at 1/2 online over the long haul.  We all know he has improved a lot since he was playing those stakes online, so he should probably just keep doing what he's doing.  Live games and tournaments are much softer anyways.
2/24/11 8:35 PM
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Wreckker, thanks for the great advice. I'm posting from my phone so I can't write a long reply, buy I wanted to say thanks!

Sift, Vector nailed it. I'm not a multitabling grinder, I just don't have it in me. I like the dynamics of live poker and it is much, much easier. I'll still play online for practice and to improve my fundamentals, but I'm playing at stakes that would be shark infested online. Instead, I'm playing with guys who are so transparent and bad that you can almost play face up and still have a huge edge.

Something has changes in my play and it has caused my live cash game to far surpass my tournament play (not that my tourney play was anything to write home about). I can elaborate on how I changed, but I'll have to do it when I get to my computer.
2/24/11 8:58 PM
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Andre be careful not to delude yourself - live cash is the easiest form of poker, and you are playing at the juiciest casino in the world.

keep working on your game!
2/24/11 10:10 PM
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PR - Andre be careful not to delude yourself - live cash is the easiest form of poker, and you are playing at the juiciest casino in the world.

keep working on your game!

 screw 1-2 onlinbe when you live next to those casinos...

Tear them up and keep getting better!
2/25/11 1:18 AM
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PR - Andre be careful not to delude yourself - live cash is the easiest form of poker, and you are playing at the juiciest casino in the world.

keep working on your game!


PR, it's actually a case of the opposite, for once, in my case. I have put aside any thoughts I might have once had about me being "good" at poker. What I mean is that I am totally preoccupied with improvement and not with proving anything to anyone.

I know that my game has made a significant leap, however, because I have been playing at the same casinos since I started playing and I, and several players who have known me since I started, can see the difference. The change came as a result of a few things: 1) I'm "training" twice a week with winning players and we review our hand histories (I keep a journal with me at the table and I take detailed notes on questionable hands). 2) I'm not just reading my poker books, I'm treating them like college textbooks. I'm taking notes and applying the concepts to the hands in my journal. 3) I'm living off of the money, so it is causing me to play much more focused and deliberate. This was super important because I stopped putting myself in awkward situations and have vastly improved my bet sizing so that I am building huge pots with my monster hands and either controlling the pot or letting the hand go when the pot is disproportionate to the hand I'm holding. I'm trying to avoid marginal situations because I know I'll get paid off with hands where I'm actually holding the goods.

But I really appreciate the advice and I know that it is good for me to hear it here, even while I'm playing it over and over in my head already. :)
2/25/11 1:18 AM
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wreckker - 
PR - Andre be careful not to delude yourself - live cash is the easiest form of poker, and you are playing at the juiciest casino in the world.

keep working on your game!

 screw 1-2 onlinbe when you live next to those casinos...

Tear them up and keep getting better!



Thanks! I'm really doing as much as I can to improve! :)
2/25/11 3:44 AM
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Andre, can you please post the books that you are finding useful and also the books that you have used in the past? It'd help me out a lot right now as I have started playing again...

Also would others post the books that they would recommend for someone that has played for a while and is able to play at a small loss that wants to improve and tighten up their play and become more of a technical player??
 
2/25/11 4:46 AM
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Tartan,

Are you looking for cash game recommendations or tournaments?

For poker in general, Skylansky's Theory of Poker is resource you'll probably revisit the most. I didnt appreciate it at first, but through PR's persistence, I've grown to love it.

Another general book that I love is Phil Gordon's Little Green Book. It's very basic but I think he does an excellent job of communicating the most important things to consider when playing a hand. Excellent book.

For cash and tournaments, buy Harrington's books on each. Some of the tournament material might be a bit dated but overall they are excellent.

Also the Winning Tournament Poker Vols 1 and 2 are awesome, as well as Kill Phil 2 (not a fan of 1).

Right now the book Im studying the closest is Odds and Probabilities for Texas Hold Em. Published by Dimat.

I'd also read "Things it took me a while to learn" by Tony "Bond18" Dunst, if you can find it. It is a series of posts he made on a poker messageboard. It used to be hosted on tworags.com, but I just checked and the page that had the article is down.

Most importantly, I'd recommend finding a coach or someone much better than you to help you work on your game. PR is a great choice, actually.
2/25/11 4:47 AM
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I also read the poker mags and 2+2 forums.
2/25/11 7:24 PM
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andre - Tartan,

Are you looking for cash game recommendations or tournaments?




I'm unsure right now as to whether I will pursue cash games or tournaments. I'm reading 'The theory of Poker' and noticing just how little I actually fully understand about playing. I now realise that becoming a winning player is a lot more complicated than I ever thought.

For the next month I will continue reading the book and playing a few days a week just to get used to playing again. Then I will probably take a more concentrated sample of both games and see where I am more likely to make the most money.

I'm not looking to make huge money but it would be nice to turn poker into a profitable hobby.

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