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2/13/11 9:51 PM
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Kamikaze Emu
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A few hands and thoughts on them from this evening.

All things considered a good session, I was happy with my play and finished with a profit.

Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1175634
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Hero (CO): $1.58
BTN: $1.81
SB: $1.60
BB: $0.97
UTG: $1.71
UTG+1: $4.24
UTG+2: $1.74
MP1: $2.81
MP2: $2.23

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with Q 7
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, 2 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($0.09) 5 5 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.09) Q (4 players)
BB bets $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

River: ($0.17) Q (4 players)
BB bets $0.02, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.06, BB folds, MP2 folds

Final Pot: $0.23
Hero wins $0.22
(Rake: $0.01)


I entered this pot with starting requirements that I typically wouldn't as I felt the limpers ahead and the likely limpers in the blinds gave me the odds to do so with a hand I would typically fold here.

I took the free card on the flop and was lucky to see the Q on the turn. I called the bet on the turn as I felt there was strong potential for me to be way behind here with the board paired, but in review I'm not sure this was the right call. The Q on the river was a huge gift and I took the opportunity to re-raise a very weak min bet, but looking at my re-raise I was still below what I'd typically bet here if I was leading out, which would be somewhere around $0.12. In review it might have been a good idea to bet as I typically would, basically ignoring the min bet ahead of me. Thoughts?



Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - View hand 1175642
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Hero (BB): $1.60
UTG: $1.92
UTG+1: $1.91
MP: $1.79
CO: $3.96
BTN: $1.93
SB: $2.08

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with T Q
3 folds, CO calls $0.02, BTN raises to $0.07, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.22) A 6 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.14, Hero folds, CO calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.50) 4 (2 players)
CO checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.50) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $0.30, BTN folds

Final Pot: $0.50
CO wins $0.48
(Rake: $0.02)


I think this was just a bad call on my part. Should have just dumped it and moved on. Thoughts?



Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 1175544
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Hero (UTG): $1.74
UTG+1: $1.79
MP1: $1.72
MP2: $1.71
CO: $4.98
BTN: $1.71
SB: $2.79
BB: $2.14

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with T T
Hero raises to $0.06, 3 folds, CO raises to $0.18, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.39) 6 J Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.25, Hero folds

Final Pot: $0.39
CO wins $0.38
(Rake: $0.01)



Villain was running with a VPIP ~40% so I felt he could be pushing back light. I'm not happy with my play on this hand as I think I should just folded to the re-raise. Any merit to limping in the this situation? Should I have come back over the top on him hoping he was weak? There isn't a lot of re-raising going on at this level so I think I should just have given him his credit for a good hand and moved on.
2/13/11 9:57 PM
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Kamikaze Emu
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Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - <a href=http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1175650>View hand 1175650</a><br />
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<strong>Hero (MP2): $1.50</strong><br />
CO: $1.78<br />
BTN: $2.17<br />
SB: $0.78<br />
BB: $2.06<br />
UTG: $2.00<br />
<strong>UTG+1: $2.90</strong><br />
MP1: $0.80<br />
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<strong>Pre Flop:</strong> ($0.03) Hero is MP2 with K<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/heart.png" alt=" of hearts" /> K<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/spade.png" alt=" of spades" /><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;">1 fold</span>, UTG+1 calls $0.02, <span style="font-style: italic;">1 fold</span>, <span style="color: red;">Hero raises to $0.08</span>, <span style="font-style: italic;">4 folds</span>, UTG+1 calls $0.06<br />
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<strong>Flop:</strong> ($0.19) J<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/heart.png" alt=" of hearts" /> 2<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/spade.png" alt=" of spades" /> J<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/diamond.png" alt=" of diamonds" /> <span style="color: blue;">(2 players)</span><br />
UTG+1 checks, <span style="color: red;">Hero bets $0.12</span>, UTG+1 calls $0.12<br />
<br />
<strong>Turn:</strong> ($0.43) 6<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/diamond.png" alt=" of diamonds" /> <span style="color: blue;">(2 players)</span><br />
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks<br />
<br />
<strong>River:</strong> ($0.43) T<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/spade.png" alt=" of spades" /> <span style="color: blue;">(2 players)</span><br />
<span style="color: red;">UTG+1 bets $0.20</span>, Hero calls $0.20<br />
<br />
<strong>Final Pot:</strong> $0.83<br />
Hero mucks K<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/heart.png" alt=" of hearts" /> K<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/spade.png" alt=" of spades" /><br />
UTG+1 shows T<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/heart.png" alt=" of hearts" /> T<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/diamond.png" alt=" of diamonds" /><br />
UTG+1 wins $0.79<br />
(Rake: $0.04)<br />
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Was considering checking here as the paired board was scary. After villain checks I'm feeling more comfortable with where I stand, but I think I should have given more credit to villain's bet on the river. I felt I was ahead, and was having trouble with the thought of folding this hand, but at the same time villain went from check calling everything to betting. Also, thoughts on my check on the turn?



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<strong>Hero (MP): $1.20</strong><br />
CO: $1.78<br />
BTN: $0.73<br />
SB: $1.23<br />
BB: $4.41<br />
UTG: $3.29<br />
UTG+1: $0.76<br />
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<strong>Pre Flop:</strong> ($0.03) Hero is MP with Q<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/club.png" alt=" of clubs" /> A<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/diamond.png" alt=" of diamonds" /><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;">1 fold</span>, UTG+1 calls $0.02, <span style="color: red;">Hero raises to $0.06</span>, <span style="font-style: italic;">2 folds</span>, SB calls $0.05, BB calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04<br />
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<strong>Flop:</strong> ($0.24) 2<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/heart.png" alt=" of hearts" /> Q<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/spade.png" alt=" of spades" /> A<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/heart.png" alt=" of hearts" /> <span style="color: blue;">(4 players)</span><br />
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <span style="color: red;">Hero bets $0.16</span>, SB calls $0.16, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.16<br />
<br />
<strong>Turn:</strong> ($0.72) 2<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/diamond.png" alt=" of diamonds" /> <span style="color: blue;">(3 players)</span><br />
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <span style="color: red;">Hero bets $0.45</span>, <span style="color: red;">SB raises to $1.01</span>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $0.53 all in<br />
<br />
<strong>River:</strong> ($2.68) 3<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/spade.png" alt=" of spades" /> <span style="color: blue;">(2 players - 1 is all in)</span><br />
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<strong>Final Pot:</strong> $2.68<br />
Hero shows Q<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/club.png" alt=" of clubs" /> A<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/diamond.png" alt=" of diamonds" /><br />
SB shows Q<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/diamond.png" alt=" of diamonds" /> 9<img src="http://images.deucescracked.com/suits/diamond.png" alt=" of diamonds" /><br />
Hero wins $2.55<br />
(Rake: $0.10)<br />
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Thanks you baby Jebus, that was a huge momentum swing. :)
2/13/11 10:33 PM
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wreckker
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 No offense but you saying "huge momentum swing"  made me LOL after i saw hero wins 2.55$...

Its all realtive though!


2/14/11 12:52 AM
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andre
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My opinion:

Hand 1: fold preflop. Why play Q7...ever? What kind of flop would you need to hit, and would the villains need to hit for you to get the "right pot odds." I think people use "pot odds" as a justification for bad play all the time. I know I have and probably still do quite a bit, but it's really boredom that made you play Q7, IMO.

Hand 2: dump it preflop. For sure.

Hand 3: if your read (also based on the Vpip stat) is that he's 3-betting light, then make a large 4-bet preflop...or fold. Otherwise, play it as is and hold for a favorable flop. I'd fold on that check-fold, as you did with flop.

My advice would be to play hands that you would play if the stakes were higher. I think the
Micros are full of hands you don't see much at the higher levels because there isn't much thought begins starting hand requirements.
2/14/11 12:52 AM
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Kamikaze Emu - A few hands and thoughts on them from this evening.

All things considered a good session, I was happy with my play and finished with a profit.

Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1175634
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Hero (CO): $1.58
BTN: $1.81
SB: $1.60
BB: $0.97
UTG: $1.71
UTG+1: $4.24
UTG+2: $1.74
MP1: $2.81
MP2: $2.23

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with Q 7
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, 2 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($0.09) 5 5 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.09) Q (4 players)
BB bets $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

River: ($0.17) Q (4 players)
BB bets $0.02, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.06, BB folds, MP2 folds

Final Pot: $0.23
Hero wins $0.22
(Rake: $0.01)


I entered this pot with starting requirements that I typically wouldn't as I felt the limpers ahead and the likely limpers in the blinds gave me the odds to do so with a hand I would typically fold here.

I took the free card on the flop and was lucky to see the Q on the turn. I called the bet on the turn as I felt there was strong potential for me to be way behind here with the board paired, but in review I'm not sure this was the right call. The Q on the river was a huge gift and I took the opportunity to re-raise a very weak min bet, but looking at my re-raise I was still below what I'd typically bet here if I was leading out, which would be somewhere around $0.12. In review it might have been a good idea to bet as I typically would, basically ignoring the min bet ahead of me. Thoughts? 
1) You shouldn't be playing Q7
2) You should have raised the turn for several reasons: a) to see where you are at in the hand  b) to make players pay to suck out on you and c) to increase the pot size in a pot that you are probably ahead in
3) Your river raise is horrible.  You raised 4 cents into a 21 cent pot.  Opponent is likely to call with a 5 even if you make a big bet.
2/14/11 12:56 AM
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Kamikaze Emu - Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with T Q
3 folds, CO calls $0.02, BTN raises to $0.07, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05

I think this was just a bad call on my part. Should have just dumped it and moved on. Thoughts? 
Yes.  Bad call.
2/14/11 5:20 AM
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Man was today a bad fucking day!! I open with JJ from EP and everyone folds to bb who calls with A5c..and flop is Ad 5d Jc... i bet and he calls...turn is 8c.. i check raise and he shoves and i instacall... river is a fucking A!!!
2/14/11 1:02 PM
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wreckker -  No offense but you saying "huge momentum swing"  made me LOL after i saw hero wins 2.55$...

Its all realtive though!

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lol, it is pretty funny if you think about it. Yes, I made mad pocket change!

I was pretty low after running my KK into TT (shouldn't that usually go the other way around) so that was a nice pot. I find getting smoked in big pots frustrating and it takes me forever to win back the amount lost as the average pot is like .05 to .10 so it was a breth of fresh air.

Give me 3 to 5 years and I'll be playing for drinking money instead of pocket change! ;)
2/14/11 1:42 PM
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Lol. I like your attitude, Emu. You seem like a great guy.
2/15/11 3:56 PM
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Attdude - Man was today a bad fucking day!! I open with JJ from EP and everyone folds to bb who calls with A5c..and flop is Ad 5d Jc... i bet and he calls...turn is 8c.. i check raise and he shoves and i instacall... river is a fucking A!!!



Gotta just shrug it off. You played it perfect. Hands like this are crucial IMO to your progress. If you can shurug it off, great. If you can't, and feel tilted, understandable, but END the session immediately. Chasing that loss will kill your session way more than 1 bad beat
2/18/11 2:24 AM
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The day will come where you will cringe at these plays. Q7 will double your stack one day if you play it enough, as will any hand. but will that make up for all the call folds and money lost when your queen gets out kicked?

With tens, you pretty much played it the way you have to if youre not four betting. The problem with penny tables is that youre getting three bet with ace shitty suited just as often as a real hand.

for best learning, start at 2 cent five cent,imo. Online is just an asswhipping for me, I play fulltilt and bounce around 2 cent five cent and five cent ten cent basically just practicing. I think these players more closely resemble the players at live 1-2 nl cash games at the casino I frequent.

Practice playing the same hand multiple ways against a variety of opponents is the biggest thing ive gotten out of online poker. Its helping, im crushing the casino and have been for a year now.

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