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3/8/11 11:28 PM
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The Marvelous One
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mine needs to rot in hell.....fucking piece of shit
3/11/11 5:24 PM
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PeterIrl
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Ditch it and buy a turbo diesel Nissan GQ patrol.
3/15/11 3:02 AM
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JackFunk
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3/16/11 3:45 AM
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Byrd
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most dependable vehicle i ever owned.
3/27/11 3:43 PM
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Not the most comfortable, reliable or best looking vehicles for sure, but *easily* the most capable off road vehicle you can buy. There isn't even a close second place.

3/27/11 6:28 PM
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PeterIrl
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White347LX - Not the most comfortable, reliable or best looking vehicles for sure, but *easily* the most capable off road vehicle you can buy. There isn't even a close second place.




If you're talking stock vs stock, a GQ is a much more capable machine "out of the box".

If you're talking modified, it tilts even more heavily in favour of the Nissan.
3/29/11 12:01 AM
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White347LX
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I'm sure we have different ideas of off roading in mind when we suggest these vehicles as "supreme" machines. That Nissan is probably great for safari or something.

My idea of off roading involves trailering a rig to a dedicated trail area, wheeling it until it breaks, and trailering it home. Do a google image search for Hannibal Rocks to get a idea what I'm talking about. In trails full of extreme obstacles like that, there is literally no other new vehicle which can come close to the off road performance of a new Jeep Rubicon. The short wheelbase, almost zero front or rear overhang and lockers front and rear put it head and shoulders above anything else. On the flip side, those same features make it a shitty road vehicle and that's why I wouldn't trade a new 4Runner for a whole parking lot of Rubicons!
3/29/11 1:09 AM
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PeterIrl
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we probably do have differing views on offroading, lol@safari.

My idea of off roading involves driving out to the bush, hitting up mud, sand, rocks, descents, climbs, water crossings, pulling fallen trees out of the way, snatching out bogged rigs, getting bogged and for the rig to be tough enough to soak it all up and then be able to get you back home too;-)

I am biased, but for my money theres nothing I'd rather drive anywhere than a GQ.
4/8/11 1:58 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmK6yhL3U1c
4/14/11 10:28 AM
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PeterIrl - 
White347LX - Not the most comfortable, reliable or best looking vehicles for sure, but *easily* the most capable off road vehicle you can buy. There isn't even a close second place.




If you're talking stock vs stock, a GQ is a much more capable machine "out of the box".

If you're talking modified, it tilts even more heavily in favour of the Nissan.


I'd take a defender, a 70 series landcruiser or a Hilux surf over a jeep.
4/14/11 5:52 PM
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White347LX
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I like the old Landcruisers, but they are kinda big to fit through some of the tighter trails. Toyota trucks have a great drivetrain and make superior off roaders once you cut most of the body away and bob the bed.

The Defender looks like a early Bronco but I don't think it has the drivetrain to match.
4/16/11 4:35 PM
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Ponyboy
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That 4.0 liter inline six litters the junkyards of america.

Apparently some guys are making huge hp with them so might be a cool project to put a turbo 6 into a small amc two door.
4/16/11 7:07 PM
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White347LX
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Turbo 4.0 AMC Spirit? There were a couple at the AMC nationals last year.
4/20/11 10:44 PM
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PeterIrl
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Anti JR - What about the Porsche Cayenne S Transsyberia?

http://youtu.be/0gRsQBqxlig

$71,775+

"The Transsyberia has stats that make it sound more like a Range Rover than a German sport vehicle: maximum ground clearance of nearly 11 inches, towing capacity of 7,716 lbs., the ability to ford a 21-in.-deep stream, etc. Yet it retains the speed and handling of a Porsche.

What sets the Transsyberia apart is its combination of a powerful engine and off-roading gear at (for Porsche) a reasonable price. The Transsyberia is powered by the same direct-injected engine found in the sporty Cayenne GTS, a 4.8-liter, 405 horsepower V8, coupled with a six-speed Tiptronic automatic. Off-roading enhancements include an air suspension system that raises and lowers the chassis, front and rear stainless-steel skid plates to protect the undercarriage, and a modified version of Porsche's Permanent all-wheel-drive system that directs 62% of the engine's power to the back wheels for better traction in difficult driving conditions. In addition, there's a $2,640 option package that includes reinforced rock rails, extra protection for the engine, gasoline tank, and rear axle, and a variable and lockable rear differential."


No.
4/21/11 2:47 AM
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Ponyboy
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That's it....forgot the name of the Spirit.


Love to have one.
4/22/11 10:46 AM
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Actually, I think they stroke a 4.2 out to a 5.0 and use the 4.0 head/intake/injection. It makes a strange exhaust sound!
4/22/11 10:49 AM
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White347LX
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That Porsche sounds cool, as do all Porsches, but it would turn my stomach to see something that nice taken out and beat on the trail. Like taking a G Wagen out!
4/22/11 7:28 PM
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If I'm going that far then I'll take a bowler nemesis or Mcrae enduro
4/22/11 8:53 PM
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Robby Gordon rocked that Touareg winning Dakar rally stages with it.

When I told my european rally snob friends that Robby Gordon had a chance to win the rally, they laughed at me until I pointed them to his wikipedia entry.

They were pretty grim after that and were no longer talking after he won a couple of stages.
4/23/11 2:43 AM
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White347LX
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No way that VW makes it to the US. Even though it would probably sell 10X more here than the rest of the world.
10/27/11 11:27 AM
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It is a sad day as a Toyota guy that I have to agree with White347LX on the Heep Rubicon.
11/9/12 11:42 AM
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Yep, out of the box it's hard to beat a Jeep for off road ability.

I ended up getting a Tacoma because it's good enough and a better dailey driver than a jeep. Great resale value as well.
1/23/13 2:23 PM
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Parts can be hard to get for older used ones, labor is high as fuck for JEEP mechanics. but man does it have a huge subcultural following

2/20/13 2:39 PM
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One of the most reliable vehicles Ive ever owned was a 92 Wrangler. That thing was a tank and I did everything I could to destroy it.
5/12/13 2:20 AM
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i have a 2000 wrangler the thing is bullet proof when it comes to off roading a jeep wrangler is unparalled 


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