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3/17/11 3:08 PM
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NotsoMightySkull
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Desktop support for last 4 years with some Network admin experience in a small company setting. Hit ceiling and need to push my career a little bit. No programming experience. Prefer Networking over MCSE type stuff. MCSE so boring.

CCNA?
Security +?
Looking to get a job with my current skills and move up.
3/17/11 4:49 PM
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CCNA is the default entry level cert. But its not truly entry level in that you really need to know a decent amount of networking to pass. (Assuming you don't cheat)

Study and lab, very much worth the journey.
3/30/11 11:34 PM
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StephenL
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try ccna security too.

holy fuck the security jobs in my area.


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4/6/11 3:25 AM
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unclewang
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For networking.. CCNA and branch out wherever you want to go man.

Cisco's certification kicks ass. Gets you interviews, higher salaries and you are learning stuff you need to know in a real job.
4/6/11 7:47 AM
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ccna security
cissp

but i just want everyone to be in infosec

4/7/11 10:48 AM
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We needs more n00bs in infosec! At least good ones, we need the "I heard dis is gonna pay lots of Obama money!" ones like we need a hole in the head. :D
5/25/11 7:25 PM
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JohnnyLawrence
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NotsoMightySkull - Desktop support for last 4 years with some Network admin experience in a small company setting. Hit ceiling and need to push my career a little bit. No programming experience. Prefer Networking over MCSE type stuff. MCSE so boring.

CCNA?
Security +?
Looking to get a job with my current skills and move up.
I know you're not interested in MCSE, but what kind of server experience do you have? I hire IT folks and personally, certs don't carry much weight with me. I'll be posting for a Data Center person (server admin type stuff) pretty soon. And I'm in MN... Yay!
 
6/9/11 9:36 AM
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NHBDaddy
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^What carries weight if not certs?
6/9/11 10:51 AM
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Experience/knowing WTF you're doing carries the most weight. Certs can back that up, but I've even talked to some CCIE's I wouldn't hire due to retardism.
6/11/11 11:47 AM
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JohnnyLawrence
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NHBDaddy - ^What carries weight if not certs?
On the job experience carries much more weight than certs. Any one can cram for a written test. I've seen guys who have no business being anywhere near a server come in a cert'd up. The cram schools that started popping up in the early 00's ruined it for me. Guys would take a few week course and come out with MS certs and absolutely no experience.
 
6/11/11 3:23 PM
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Road Warrior Fin
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NotsoMightySkull - Desktop support for last 4 years with some Network admin experience in a small company setting. Hit ceiling and need to push my career a little bit. No programming experience. Prefer Networking over MCSE type stuff. MCSE so boring.

CCNA?
Security +?
Looking to get a job with my current skills and move up.

 You mean you were a Jr Admin for 4 years - if you can prove you've worked with the tasks for that.  Flubbing titles is okay in my book.
6/23/11 3:27 PM
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NHBDaddy - ^What carries weight if not certs?
On the job experience carries much more weight than certs. Any one can cram for a written test. I've seen guys who have no business being anywhere near a server come in a cert'd up. The cram schools that started popping up in the early 00's ruined it for me. Guys would take a few week course and come out with MS certs and absolutely no experience.
 


Thats a relief. I thought you were looking for a 4 yr degree, which can be obtained with zero hands on experience the same as the certs.
7/4/11 11:41 PM
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Jason
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7/6/11 6:01 PM
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JOB
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Security+ isn't worth much tbh. Check out my OSCP thread for security certification.
7/7/11 9:27 PM
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NotsoMightySkull - Desktop support for last 4 years with some Network admin experience in a small company setting. Hit ceiling and need to push my career a little bit. No programming experience. Prefer Networking over MCSE type stuff. MCSE so boring.

CCNA?
Security +?
Looking to get a job with my current skills and move up.
I know you're not interested in MCSE, but what kind of server experience do you have? I hire IT folks and personally, certs don't carry much weight with me. I'll be posting for a Data Center person (server admin type stuff) pretty soon. And I'm in MN... Yay!
 
Where in MN do you hire IT folks? 
 
7/7/11 10:50 PM
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JohnnyLawrence
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Northern Minnesota. Duluth area to be exact.
7/8/11 6:02 AM
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JOB - Security+ isn't worth much tbh. Check out my OSCP thread for security certification.

 Unless you work for the Fed.

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