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3/23/11 1:24 AM
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I've tried everything under the sun; ambien, lunesta, rozerem, melatonin, antihistamines, etc. Cannabis Indica works like a charm and zero hangover in the morning unlike the prescription and OTC stuff.
3/23/11 1:28 AM
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I take a Mexican sleeping pill rivotril.... Because I hate my wife and therefore my life. It either that or kill myself.
3/23/11 1:30 AM
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Honestly man I've been taking lunesta (imovane in canada) every night for over 10 years (sometime up to 4 a night) if you have to take any sleeping pills just make sure you only take them once a week to get caught up on sleep .trust me it's not the best to be hooked on Phone Post
3/23/11 1:31 AM
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My sleep problems arose from a few different things.
First is I quit smoking weed, I was a HUUUGE weed smoker for many years...high grade stuff. When I moved in with g/f now wife she kinda didn't like me smoking every night so I tapered off and eventually quit. Had a hard time sleeping for a long time. Another reason was training. If I trained anything after 4 I have a hard time calming down. I got moves running through my head and my heart rate was always faster. I am also a fairly on edge individual with a rough upbringing that sometimes stresses me out to this day. The on and off insomnia lead to energy drink addiction which made it all worse.

This lead to the doctor prescribing ambien. I got on a small dosage. Worked well for quite sometime. Somtimes it wouldn't work at all though, it was fun to take though!. I would sometimes wake my wife up and have sex with her 3 times a night on occassion and only remember one of them. Eventually the doc took me off that and put me on trazadone..trazadone taken with turkey at nightime is MONEY. Put's me asleep and keeps me there. I do have slight hangovers from it during the day though I think. Alot fo times my probelm wasn't/isn't falling asleep it's staying there. Sometimes I would wake up at 4-5am wide awake. I am def addicted...the other night I forgot to take trazzy and woke up at 3:30 ithing and mind kinda racing.

Anyhow, tazzy worked way better than ambien for long term use IMO...though nowhere near as fun.
3/23/11 1:54 AM
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t tried trazadone but made me reflux super bad, and the hangover was bad for me.
3/23/11 1:59 AM
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I'm on this stuff called Nortriptylene which allows me to have a more normal sleep pattern. I got migraines for half a year because I wasn't sleeping properly. However, it is technically an antidepressant so if I forget to take it for a few days I feel like suiciding myself Phone Post
3/23/11 2:29 AM
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I hate transdone long hangover ( would stuff my nose to. I know wried ) Phone Post
3/23/11 2:37 AM
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Trazadone is even worse. You people have no problem admitting you take sleeping pills then justify it like, o i well i take it mostly on work nights blah blah blah blah. Dude your taking it for two years and just cause you have a prescription for it doesnt mean your not addicted, in fact it just makes your justify it more like as seen above.

Ya screw insomnia guys it would be much better to take prescription pills, All you guys on trazadone and ambien and lunesta may not notice immediate problems from it, but try to stop it cold turkey, and im not talking for one day im talking for a fucking week dude, see how that turns out for you.
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/trazodone-withdrawal.html

Ya brain zaps are nothing.

Fucking druggies on this forum i swear, no matter what you say your still an addict. At least the guy above me admits if he forgets to take it for a few days he feels depressed. Seems like hes the only one not in denial, and if you believe that shit has no negative effect on your body, try working out even tho u take ambien at night or lunesta or any script, watch how fucking sick you feel and how short of breath, there is nobody on this planet that can take ambien every night and be succesful in keeping your cardio healthy and your body.Its a chemical and poison and your body treats it as one, junkies shake and sweat because of the rebound sickness and withdrawal so save the im not a junkie speech cause im ethically better cause its written on a piece of paper talk. You will look worse than a junkie if you try and quit that ambien home boy, and if you can sleep fine without it, then why you been takin it for two years.

How do you guys have no problem recommending a sleep aid when its a temporary fix, and not solving your problem, Your not even gettin real sleep when i was on ambien i was just passing out, now if i get 4 hrs of sleep because of insomnia at least i can go run a half marathon, or be in a stable mood much better than taking a drug just so you can black out because your too pussy to function without your exact amount of hours of beauty sleep, You guys dont realize how tough your body is, if you need sleep your body will give it to you.

After i quit i thought something was wrong with me i thought no way meds could do that to me the doctor would have warned me, no dude they want your money. i was literally counting 5 or 6 sunsets and sunrises without even an hour nap, my heart felt like it was on fire and i thought my brain was rottin out. I would never be so ingorant to recommend something like that to someone lacking sleep, no dude i wouldnt wish the hell of quitting a serious narcotic on anyone. Man up if you cant sleep, even if it takes you a couple extra hours, and if your tired as fuck then you should have no problem sleeping, if your not tired well then thats why you didnt sleep much your fine without it. Fuckin script sleep heads are the worse, its not addiction because a doc gives it to me, haha in switzerland they prescribe heroine to the people shooting up to create a normal schedule, they are still fucking addicts when its written on paper your body doesnt go o ok i wont go into incredible sickness when you quit now that i have it on paper, NO YOUR FUCKING BODY WILL BE IN MORE PAIN THAN EVER its poison.
3/23/11 2:40 AM
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frozen mma fan - I hate transdone long hangover ( would stuff my nose to. I know wried ) <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


People call it the devil, no lie cause its like an anti depressant mixed with something your body treats like an opiate, NO TROLL the last person i saw that took trazadone blew out there fuckin brains cause they went into such bad detox and the doc treated it like he was exagerating, look up trazadone they call it the devils drug because of all the problems its caused. Out of the hundreds of people i know that have been on ambien to lunesta, to opiates, to benzos about 4 or 5 have gotten clean, about 10 have blown there brains out, and the rest felt a couple days of real detox and were so blown away they would rather deal with long term symptons like depression and health issues just to avoid a week of hell, its sad really. THe biggest prob in the US like rogan said how can we have a war on drugs, when we sell them and justify it all day long. How is it common opinion a narcotic is okay to reccomend to someone over something as stupid and small as insomnia, GO into the fucking military homeboy see how they treat you on ambien, see how you can really function with lack of sleep you will be so mind fucked i wouldnt be surprised if you saw through all your justification and felt embarassed.
3/23/11 2:42 AM
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I take sleeping pills every once in a while. I don't really like taking them so I usually don't do it unless it is an emergency situation. I tend to be a night owl and sometimes I "fall off the wagon" and screw up my sleeping pattern to where it has a negative effect on me making money. So when that happens I'll take sleeping pills until I can get myself back on track.
3/23/11 2:43 AM
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frozen mma fan - Honestly man I've been taking lunesta (imovane in canada) every night for over 10 years (sometime up to 4 a night) if you have to take any sleeping pills just make sure you only take them once a week to get caught up on sleep .trust me it's not the best to be hooked on <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


No not to catch up on sleep even cause then it just becomes more and more habit forming suck it up, cause well deal with it till we got old, if your body needs to catch up, it fucking will taking narcotic is not natural, your not even catching up on sleep dude your just fucking knocking yourself out. SHit its obvious people its not like im talking out my ass every drug i am criticizing you can do a quick google search and find hundreds of stories of detox suicide. Its not NO big deal, its worse then craving to get high in some cases, your fucking relying on something for sleep, to live. What if a fucking tsunami hits near a coast like in japan and you cant get to a pharmacy and you have to take care of your family, O NOES I HAVE INSOMNIA NEED NARCOTIC guess what, no phamarcy in a natural disaster, and do me a favor if an emergency happens to you and you are obliged to do something an un able to function cause of detox, pull out that piece of paper and say THE gov't gives me these drugs so its different, see how much it helps
3/23/11 2:45 AM
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3/23/11 2:47 AM
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theshooter - I take sleeping pills every once in a while. I don't really like taking them so I usually don't do it unless it is an emergency situation. I tend to be a night owl and sometimes I "fall off the wagon" and screw up my sleeping pattern to where it has a negative effect on me making money. So when that happens I'll take sleeping pills until I can get myself back on track.


Elaborate, over the counter, when you stop do you loose sleep without them. im sure people can benefit from your somewhat logical approach to it, hopefully your not talking ambien. Cause i literally did what you did for years, and its slowly planting that seed of addiction and sometimes it moves so slow we will deny that we are too special to ever have that problem, Addict the way im using it is not that stigma junkie term. If you need caffeine to function in the morning thats still an addiction is the way im saying i i dont mean it so derogatory, but if they dont get that caffeine they get a migraine and cant work, well with pills its 10000x worse, like many have said on this sleep your skipping rem, so your just blacking out, would be so much better for you to suck it up, cause its a double edged sword if your so lacking sleep and cant function, then fuck wait till after work even though it may be hard then catch up on sleep naturally. I seem invested in this convo but i have seen it first hand take many lives, cause they all treated it like its not a narcotic and just a simple sleep med so when it smacked them in the face with reality its really a narcotic there denial drove them to suicide. NO ones saying people deserve detox but its the god dam truth you take a script everynight, every other night whatever to function, your gonna be fucked up worse then when you was before it . Your just covering up your problem with poison to deal with it later in life. Justification of not being addicted on this thread is nuts, dont matter what you say taking it for two years is more than enough info to constitute being addicted to the meds.
3/23/11 2:55 AM
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Somebody needs to chime in that has been on sleep meds and quit, to many people in between or not yet affected or have not tried to stop and fucntion without it yet. Also i would bet my ass no one taking these scripts plays a sport. it took everything from me, i was playing triple a hockey before the pills, no matter what the doc made it sound like i needed sleep and taking anything was worth it. When i look back in hind sight i should have known just cause i could work, function, and support my people does not mean it wasnt a problem, it made me disaccoiate and it messes with your receptors and emotions on a serious level. If it was so non habit forming and healthy, i should have actually caught up on sleep and felt like working out the next morning like if i get natural sleep, know i thought that magical number of hours i slept was all that mattered. Now i have severe insomnia and it will probably take a year of fighting tooth and nail to get my old sleep habits to regain, god one of the biggest regrets of my life, all cause someone recommended it to me and overblew the pains of lack of sleep to me and i bought into it. Its funny though even days i feel tired like all i want to do is catch up on sleep for a year, if i really bite the bullet i can push my body way harder even though im tired then i ever could after taking ambien or lunesta and sleeping for tweleve hours. Please head my advice people i feel like the average person that is in the pain i have endured cause of it would be so surprised they would do anything to make it known to the world if they didnt already blow there heads off. Ive had over 15 broken bones from trip a hockey, 4 ribs pulled out my spine from grappling, and 3 concussions and im leaving out 75 percent of my serious injuries. I would rather be strapped to a gerny have all those bones broken over for an entire 24 hrs in excruciating pain then go through a detox all over again, by far the hardest thing i did in my life. I won mvp at nationals at 15 yrs old in the highest level of youth hockey, and its 1 percent of the work and difficulty that it took to get off script pills. If this saves one person from the pain i felt its worth me typing for days, please anyone believe me im not trying to scare you, but its hell on earth and theres no way around it, you take it for a month and you will soon be stuck with the decision poison for life or go through hell and back for two weeks, and even if you dont believe me you will be appauled looking in hindsight how easily you could have just settled taking poison for life. God sorry guys i lost my best friend to this shit, ill never forget the look on his face, his dad was a profession baseball player, he was so strong mentally, and not your typical addict, but the denial ate at him :(
3/23/11 3:11 AM
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I didn't say just because I have a script for Ambien Im not addicted. Yes I would rather take it to sleep to make sure Im well rested but if I don't no biggie just a little more tired than usual.

And Im sorry your friend choose suicide, but I don't think that had anything to do with this pill we are speaking of right? Sounds like had some other issues that led them to that decision, and not Ambien itself, right?

And as far as this homeboy going into the military, I don't see what that would prove?

Im in good shape and .and have a career already

For a real relaxed weed smoking type you sure see up tight. I know you are going all natural but maybe a benzo could help you with this anger you are showing
3/23/11 3:18 AM
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Sorry if my text are getting smaller and not as well put together as before, but I think my Poisson is kicking in.

I think your constructive input may have helped this thread but now, well you look like your just out there., and have some major anger issues.

Good Luck to you sir
3/23/11 3:22 AM
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Ron Popeil - I didn't say just because I have a script for Ambien Im not addicted. Yes I would rather take it to sleep to make sure Im well rested but if I don't no biggie just a little more tired than usual.

And Im sorry your friend choose suicide, but I don't think that had anything to do with this pill we are speaking of right? Sounds like had some other issues that led them to that decision, and not Ambien itself, right?

And as far as this homeboy going into the military, I don't see what that would prove?

Im in good shape and .and have a career already

For a real relaxed weed smoking type you sure see up tight. I know you are going all natural but maybe a benzo could help you with this anger you are showing


Ya recommend something as addictive as benzos you must be a fucking troll, ya xanax is great for athletes man. IM sure your in great shape! And the military does prove a point they wont take you on something like ambien no way you can stay in real shape, im not talking internet arm chair shape.

And also to your first statement if you followed what you preached you wouldnt be taking it in the first place.

Too your second statement, i gave you no information and because of your addict thinking you would say anything to take it off the blame of your drug of choice regardless of how ignorant that would be. He thought was going crazy, his mother explained the symptons and they were all detox symptons and without getting too personal in his letter he alluded to it degrading his quality of life, but everyone would do anything to blame it off the drug and justify it like you are now he would never voice how much it affected him or how he wanted to quit just couldnt handle the withdrawals,

And i im not smoking currently, once again i cant believe you recommended a benzo , one of the few things you die if you try to quit, another close friend of mine just had his 5th seizure in detox and is finally clean from benzos after 3 weeks of isolation. He was so desperate he begged the entire time for someone to kill him to put him out of the misery, obviously you have never felt withdrawals.

The drugs are affecting the brain your taking my desperation to help someone as being angry, your not seeing things clearly after taking ambien on failed attempts at quitting i would see how much it dumbs down your receptors when i would start taking it again, i would be in a dream like state for days. It also affects your frontal lobe, and after talking to these people quitting these drugs there reading comprehension is way better so im not surprised you lack understand of the issue and spew off such ignorant statements. This morning i was talking to the kid that quit benzos and he was making connections within our conversation that were so amazing it was touching, it was literally a smarter more genuine human being. All them did what you say now though at some point and justify it, well cause they are lacking the frontal lobe synapses they did not see how stupid they sounded and refused to believe they suffered at all! Once clean they would break down from that re born feeling and have a crying epiphany every fucking time now matter how tough the son of a bitch. Ive seen someone go through chemo tough as shit, and cry once gettin clean like a baby, i guess it was a good thing though
3/23/11 3:26 AM
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Ron Popeil - Sorry if my text are getting smaller and not as well put together as before, but I think my Poisson is kicking in.

I think your constructive input may have helped this thread but now, well you look like your just out there., and have some major anger issues.

Good Luck to you sir


What do you expect the same justification and stupid points you make, were the same thing that made my friend scared to come forward and ask for help cause of all the tough guys on the medication and doctors in denial they could be prescribing something that would do that. Im not surprised at your complete lack of understanding though, not like you would even admit its affected you at all, i bet your gonna tell me you can run a half marathon like i did after getting clean while your on the medication next. What you gonna do if you wanna quit it one day and you dont sleep for a week, ill tell you , your gonna break the fuck down and weep cause your gonna count two hundred hours go by till you get a good 6 hours, and freak cause you take your medication if you dont get those magical hours for two days in a row like you do now.

sarcasm /Once again im guessing i should be more like you and harbor zero emotion at the same words that took an incredible life i loved dearly, and degraded mine / sarcasm
3/23/11 3:28 AM
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will check on this one in the am, have a good night :0
3/23/11 3:33 AM
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im going on day 9 no sleep. went to the doc today for antibiotics for a killer sinus infection or whatever it is. i know i need sleep but for some reason these past 2 weeks are killing me. im starting to really freak out, which is not good and only makes it worse.

i popped 2 max unisom and 2 melatonin and here i am 4 hours later. got an ambien last night from my sister and i got 2 hours... :(
3/23/11 3:34 AM
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Ron Popeil - will check on this one in the am, have a good night :0


Whats a matter cant even stay up to reply to that, i bet your too out of it to even understand it, have fun online shopping and cruising the OG. Thats what i did when i took ambien
3/23/11 3:36 AM
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5pointer - im going on day 9 no sleep. went to the doc today for antibiotics for a killer sinus infection or whatever it is. i know i need sleep but for some reason these past 2 weeks are killing me. im starting to really freak out, which is not good and only makes it worse.

i popped 2 max unisom and 2 melatonin and here i am 4 hours later. got an ambien last night from my sister and i got 2 hours... :(


Shoot me a message dude, im quitting the last med they had me on a killer opiate called suboxone. IM on day 55 quit cold turkey and have seen like 40 something sun rises i counted, its been miserable ive been stayin up for like 9 days straight then sleepin 4 hours and repeating that over and over i cant even work out. I know how bad it sucks man sleep deprivation is like torture, i promise you that even if you want to die it will get better, your body must be in good shape like mine is from long distance running the fact you seem so coherant with suck lack of sleep is a good sign. Hope you feel better man if you need support hit me up!
3/23/11 3:38 AM
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3/23/11 3:43 AM
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thank you - i really appreciate that brother.
3/23/11 6:21 AM
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I used them at one point just to get rest, but was terrified that if a fire or another emergency broke out, I could DIE or not help a loved one.

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