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3/28/11 2:18 AM
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Ze Dano
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Hey all....as the title states, I'm running bad the last month. Can't seem to catch anything, and when I do have excellent cards, I'm making the right moves, but I am taking some dirty beatings.

Have any of you been on a downswing/running bad for a month? What did you do to get out of it?

Do I stay away from the live games (cash only...no tournies) for a while? Re-read some of my books? Play online at micros to figure things out?

Any advice is sincerely appreciated.
3/28/11 12:11 PM
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andre
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Maybe drop down a level until things start picking up. Though if you're playing live, I'd take a lot of notes to go over with a trusted poker friend to see how much is running bad and how much is tilt after some really bad beats. If its online just pull your hand histories and do the same thing. Probably the best thing to do is to take a few days off and get back to it (if it's tilt) and if its just variance then drop a level and keep plugging away until you get through however many hands of bad variance you'll need to get through.
3/28/11 1:19 PM
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Ze Dano
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Thanks for replying Andre. I play live (have only played online for play money), and the games are 1/2, so there's no dropping down a level.

I find myself playing my cards more than realizing what everyone else at the table is doing, almost to the point of making my absolute decision based on the board. Maybe taking some time away is what I need.
3/28/11 2:29 PM
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Ze Dano,

I think you just identified your problem, and if you were profitable in the past then that might have been good variance and now things are evening out. I say that because I think the fit or fold way of playing is so reliant on having better cards than the other 8 players that there is simply no way for it to be profitable in the long run.

I find myself playing that way somedays, and those are usually the days when I do
My worst. The days where my opponents' tendencies, patterns, "tells", and stack sizes are the focus are far more profitable. That isn't to say my cards aren't Important, but I'm more cOncernes with what he thinks I have, and what range I put him on and how the board matches up with both.
3/28/11 2:31 PM
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By the way, you might be a much better player than I am so take my input with a grain of salt. You can trust the advice of a few people here 100%. Mine is more iffy.
3/28/11 3:23 PM
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Ze Dano
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Thanks Andre. I read alot of your posts, if not all, and I trust in your thoughts on this.

I have been very profitable up until the past few weeks. I know that my patience is wearing a bit thin, simply because since I started playing at the casino, I've never had a run like this. I've found myself giving up on pots post-flop after someone makes a reasonable bet and I have middle pair for instance. Total lack of confidence, whereas until recently, I had no reservations in firing bets.

Maybe I nbeed to get back to reading some books and not playing for a month. Thats how I first got into it, and the more I played, the better I was at reading everything at the table.

Any recommendations on good cash game books???

3/28/11 5:29 PM
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Ze Dano,

Thanks for the kind words. In my opinion, Phil Gordon's two little books (the green and the blue ones) are really good for general reminders of important things we sometimes forget when our play becomes either automatic or too focused on what we're holding/hitting.

Harrington's cash game books are also excellent.
3/28/11 7:47 PM
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Ze Dano
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Andre...funny you mention those books...the "little books" are the first ones I bought when I began playing! I also have Harrington on Hold Em..is that the one you're referring to?

Maybe back to the drawing board is a good idea...thanks friend
3/29/11 12:29 AM
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 Not playing will only hurt your game.  Mix studying with playing.  Play low stakes online.  You will face a mix of good and bad players, perhaps better than what you face live, but the swings won't be as bad because you will be playing lower levels.  Once you start "running well" again, go back to the casino.
3/29/11 3:50 AM
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Ze Dano
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Thanks Vector and Andre..much appreciated...this downswing has really gotten to me...obviously time to re-tool
3/30/11 2:54 PM
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 its definetly good to take a break

study on your break 

Play when you really want to and game is good

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