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6/12/11 8:36 PM
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Renzo seems to be pretty pissed at him for something according to Renzo's twitter.
6/12/11 8:40 PM
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Dave Herman said in the pre-fight interview that BJJ Doesn't work.
6/12/11 8:40 PM
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Herman said Jiu Jitsu doesn't work in MMA
6/12/11 8:40 PM
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^what they said
6/12/11 8:42 PM
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he talk allota shit about zhu zhitsu
6/12/11 8:43 PM
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thanks guys, its understandable why Renzo is offended so much by that
6/12/11 8:52 PM
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if that comment reallly upset Renzo that much he really needs to grow the fuck up.   Herman was clearly joking.
6/12/11 9:01 PM
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Juwanaman, Renzo is a bjj and MMA pioneer. A little more respect please. Phone Post
6/12/11 9:03 PM
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Weird that Herman said BJJ doesn't work in MMA. He won a fight in bellator against Michal Kita by omoplata and that is puerly a BJJ technique.
6/12/11 9:09 PM
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juwanaman - Nah, Renzo gets as much respect from me that any fighter who was never good enough to be champion gets: enough, but not too much.


Didn't he beat 4 former UFC champions? I think you are just jealous cause the only thing you can beat is your dick.
6/12/11 9:12 PM
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Juwanaman, this sounds like fighter bashing bro. You know what comes with that... Phone Post
6/12/11 9:24 PM
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Brother you just sound way too angry... Dave Herman won. He deserved the victory and history is written by the winner. So right now he can say whatever he pleases. And life goes on... Phone Post
6/12/11 9:25 PM
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Brother you just sound way too angry... Dave Herman won. He deserved the victory and history is written by the winner. So right now he can say whatever he pleases. And life goes on... Phone Post
6/12/11 9:39 PM
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Jiu Jitsu and submissions will never go away...However they need only evolve away from this C-level, watered down, jack of all trades TRANE UFC jiu jitsu...There needs to be an emphasis on STRONG FUNDAMENTALS and SOLID BASE.







6/12/11 10:22 PM
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It might not actually be Renzo himself tweeting. He said on The MMA Hour that he has two other guys tweeting for him also. Phone Post
6/12/11 10:53 PM
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Im almost 100 percent sure its Renzo lol who else would get offended over something said about Bjj then a Gracie?
6/12/11 11:05 PM
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he was saying the same thing at the post fight press con as well :S
6/12/11 11:23 PM
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juwanaman - Even if he wasn't joking Renzo should win a belt or something and shut him up instead of taking to Tweetard and puffing his chest out.


So Renzo can't puff his chest out on twitter but you can on a message board?
6/12/11 11:24 PM
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juwanaman - omoplata is a judo move, it is not purely BJJ.


omoplata was created by nino schembri (bjj black belt) he also created the gogoplata, and he started the rubber guard as we know it today but good call champ.
6/12/11 11:24 PM
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 lol @ Pee Wee trolling fools...............
6/12/11 11:28 PM
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Darup - Herman has a point he destroyed a guy with some of the best BJJ credentials. BJJ is dead in MMA. Of course Renzo is mad he still wants to sell his outdated product.


that is funny because every single fighter in mma knows at least some bjj, other wise as soon as they were put on their back they would have no guard, and be immediately finished, hence the shane carwin brock lesnar fight.

don't be uneducated and post. thanks
6/12/11 11:28 PM
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bugbjj - 
juwanaman - omoplata is a judo move, it is not purely BJJ.


omoplata was created by nino schembri (bjj black belt) he also created the gogoplata, and he started the rubber guard as we know it today but good call champ.
LOL...Nino created the omoplata huh..
 
6/13/11 12:12 AM
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juwanaman - The omoplata is not purely a BJJ move friend.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/27/Masahiko_Kimura_vs_Helio_Gracie_ude-garami.jpg/200px-Masahiko_Kimura_vs_Helio_Gracie_ude-garami.jpg

(haha)


you do realize.......you posted a pic that IS NOT AN OMAPLATA, right? Or are you a bit slow?
6/13/11 12:16 AM
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Hughes beat Renzo, Serra, and Almeida.... sup den?
6/13/11 12:17 AM
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Renzo is in part responsible for were MMA is today.You ignorant children on here talking trash about him options don't matter.He has fought as hard as any man to ever step in a cage or ring.So if he wants to be upset about someone talking $h!t about something he has devoted his life to I believe he had that right.oh yeah he won the World Combat Championship 8 man tournament I believe that makes him a champion.Three wins in one night (that's more then brock lesnar had in his career when he fought for the UFC title).

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