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At UFC on Versus 4, Charles Oliveira was awarded a submission victory for tapping out Nik Lentz with a rear naked choke at 1:48 of Round 2. However, the win came after what appeared to be a textbook illegal knee, that was missed by referee Chip Snider. The Pennsylvania SAC will review tape and determine whether the ruling should be overturned in favor of a "No Contest." Below Oliveira comments on the potential change in decision.

“I didn’t realize he was still (with a knee) on the ground… At the heat of the moment, I wanted to knock him out or submit him,” Oliveira told TATAME. “The knee landed and the referee didn’t stop the fight, then I hit him again with another knee. The first one was illegal, but it didn’t hti him on the jaw, and he kept fighting, trying to take me down. The second one actually hurt him."

“We’re just waiting,” Oliveira added. “I left that in God’s hands, but I think it won’t happen (they won’t change the result). He didn’t go out, he kept on the fight and stood up, then he felt the second knee. There’s no reason to not give me the victory."

“I’m just waiting for the victory. If I could change the bonus for the victory, I would”.

Charles’ trainer Ericson Cardozo is confident that the result won’t change.

“It was the referee’s mistake, who didn’t stop the fight,” he said. “He should have stop the fight, give Lentz 5 minutes to rest and deduct a point from Charles, then the fight would go on”

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6/27/11 4:03 PM
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He's just lying if he thinks that knee didn't hurt him, it was brutal
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olivera im not a fan of parsay, or carney, but hell, that was a damn fight. Thats what i like to see, a fight everywhere the fight goes


good scrap, carney deseves to stay for shizzle in the ufc
6/27/11 4:04 PM
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The knee didn't end the fight
6/27/11 4:04 PM
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 LEGALIZE KNEES
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Masakyst -  LEGALIZE MARIJUANA

 
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FenceGrab - The knee didn't end the fight

 this, he would have lost a point and Nick time to recover I would imagine...
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 LEGALIZE MARIJUANA AND KNEES
6/27/11 4:07 PM
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Shouldn't knew downed opponents if you wanna win Phone Post
6/27/11 4:09 PM
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Masakyst -  LEGALIZE MARIJUANA

 

I'm down with that too
 
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puddlesmith - He's just lying if he thinks that knee didn't hurt him, it was brutal
For sure. Lentz folded after getting hit. He's just a warrior. Can't believe he survived as long as he did after that shot. Phone Post
6/27/11 4:19 PM
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Masakyst -  LEGALIZE MARIJUANA

 

ahaha nice edit
6/27/11 4:25 PM
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 loss? no

time to recover and possibly a point deduction from oliveira, maybe
6/27/11 4:27 PM
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Masakyst -  loss? no

time to recover and possibly a point deduction from oliveira, maybe

 yeah, no way it would have been a loss...
6/27/11 4:35 PM
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paneo astima - these guys are right, the results should stay as is, you can't go back after the fact and start handing out NC everytime you think the ref made a mistake


Yeah, actually you can when it involves a clear provable illegal strike.

If that ref would have seen it, it would have been a dq loss


Doubtful.

Probably point taken, it was ONE illegal strike,
and it was unintentional.

6/27/11 4:40 PM
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Masakyst -  loss? no

time to recover and possibly a point deduction from oliveira, maybe

 yeah, no way it would have been a loss...


If Lentz couldn't have continued it may have been.
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reddsharkk - Remind me again, what's Jon jones record and why?



that loss should be taken off jones record if u watch that fight when its all over the ref asks hamill can u continue hamill says no my shoulder so unless those elbows injured hamill's shoulder i dont see why jones lost due to illegal strikes

even post fight interview with rogan hamill says he couldnt defend with one arm thats why he could not continue
6/27/11 7:19 PM
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His statement is either mistranslated or a lie. The knee he hit him with most certainly did damage, there wasn't even another knee after it if I remember correctly.

And what's with him getting a bonus? Bad call on that one.
6/27/11 7:22 PM
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 There was definitely another knee after, which was legal. Watch it again.
 The bonus was for fight of the night which they both got.
I think Kongo Barry should have gotten that.
6/27/11 7:30 PM
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 I kneed marijuana
6/28/11 1:20 AM
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I missed this fight!

Was it shown on the main card?



6/28/11 1:27 AM
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reddsharkk - Remind me again, what's Jon jones record and why?



that loss should be taken off jones record if u watch that fight when its all over the ref asks hamill can u continue hamill says no my shoulder so unless those elbows injured hamill's shoulder i dont see why jones lost due to illegal strikes

even post fight interview with rogan hamill says he couldnt defend with one arm thats why he could not continue
If I remember correctly, the ref asked Hamill if he could continue and Hamill didn't answer because he's deaf and his eyes were filled with blood. Phone Post
6/28/11 10:03 AM
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Kind of refreshing to see a knee in american MMA and utilize perfect. Point up for why some tools should be utilize to finish. You got 4 limps why not use all of it. Restricted to max
6/28/11 11:57 AM
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 1st knee really hurt him 4 sure, the illegal 1

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