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Over the past several days, the Zuffa-owned Strikeforce and UFC released all team Golden Glory members - Marloes Coenen, Jon Olav Einemo, Valentijn Overeem, and of course Strikeforce Heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem. Speculation as to the reason immediately erupted.

Then Dana White, across several interviews, detailed his reasoning.

"The Golden Glory guys told us, 'You're going to pay us. We said, 'No, we're not. We're paying the fighters directly. We're not going to do that."

"It's not the way we do business. It's not how it works in the U.S. You don't pay the manager and the manager pays the fighter. You pay the fighter, and the fighter pays the manager."

"Before a fight, the money goes into an account for the purses, and the athletic commission writes the checks. The commission writes the checks to the fighters, and then the fighters pay the managers or their trainers or whoever else they have to pay."

Golden Glory team member Marloes Coenen immediately twittered to the defense of her management, posting an image of a check written directly to her by Forza, LLC, a subsidiary of UFC and Strikeforce parent company Zuffa, LLC.

Dana White however stands behind his initial statements.

"Even when we did the deal with Einemo, we told them, 'We're paying the fighters,'" White told MMAjunkie.com. "Even though they agreed to the deal, they later came out and were flipping out during the event wanting to change the deal.'

Essentially, White isn't denying that his company wrote a check to Coenen. Instead, he's insisting that Coenen's management wasn't exactly thrilled with the arrangement and that he couldn't continue to employ that team's fighters knowing that it would prove an ongoing battle.

Additional sources close to the situation suggested Strikeforce's contracts prior to the company's acquisition may have been a little looser in structure and that payment arrangements were at times a little more creative than the black-and-white structure of the current Zuffa deals.

Further sources familiar with the negotiations suggested Golden Glory fighters are often willing to simply sign over their checks to Golden Glory, regardless to whom they are issued.

Golden Glory management has yet to speak on-record. Golden Glory co-founder Bas Boon has promised a statement will be forthcoming shortly. His primary business partner, Golden Glory founder Ron Nyqvist, remains a silent investor while completing a prison sentence for double murder

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A Dutch language article provides information on Nyqvist's imprisonment, and his continuing role in Golden Glory. A google translation appears below.

AMSTERDAM - A criminal cell serving twenty years for a double murder, organized from prison fight's Sports Gala at the Passenger Terminal in Amsterdam. The free fight gala's Golden Glory attract thousands of visitors.

These Ron Nyqvist (41), a known drug dealer in the past, a good initial contact and later was a rival of murdered real estate baron William Endstra and Willem Holleeder.

Faced with the information that criminals involved in the fighting galas, Deputy Mayor Lodewijk Asscher reacts shocked. He, justice and police action sentences.

Nyqvist shot in 2001, the twin brothers Rob and Eric Driesen death. He suspected them of the bomb that they had placed him and his girlfriend almost had killed. Nyqvist was formerly part of the 'Juliëtbende' violent drug traffickers. The kickboxer has organized for the murders and free fight gala went there after his conviction from his cell by them, assisted by partner Bas Boon.

Golden Glory is registered to Nyqvist girlfriend, but he makes no secret of his real owner. The program leaves the gala on October 17, 2009 interview late Nyqvist is the proud organizer. That he speaks from the cell remains in my memory. On October 16 is yet another gala scheduled at the Passenger Terminal.

Boon companion sees no problem in Nyqvist role. ''That guy has nine years ago in his emotion did something banal imbued where you can put question marks, but who knows the details, can understand. Those guys made plans to leave him,''says Boon. Ron''stuck, but I respect him everywhere. On paper, arrange all our partners also. Permits, the money, the tax.''

That a notorious criminal of the two biggest fights of Sports Gala's leading organizational companies, illustrates the intertwining of the increasingly popular free fight kickboxing and the underworld.

The other major promoter, It's Showtime, Saturday's annual kick boxing gala that includes the Amsterdam Arena, also has ties to criminals. Promoter Simon Rutz, himself convicted of involvement in threats and abuse, working with S. Rini, a member of the Amsterdam Hells Angels and convicted of involvement in the torture to death from a drug dealer. S. and his partner are the managers of five fighters who took office in the Arena.

The management of the Arena and director of the Passenger Terminal Kouwenberg see no problem with the galas. Kouwenberg:''If the government issues the permits, we will assume that it is all right.''(PAUL Vugt)

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Image courtesy of Elias Cepeda

 


8/5/11 10:46 AM
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 why would any fighter want their check to go directly to management? managers a employed by fighters, not the other way around...
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Golden Glory founder and business partner of Bas Boon is in prison for double murder?

Sounds like a management team id like to work with.


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8/5/11 10:54 AM
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 LMAO.  UG News loves to schill. 

What is the relevance of a silent partner doing time for murder have to do with anything?

Which Zuffa employee wrote this?
8/5/11 10:55 AM
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"Before a fight, the money goes into an account for the purses, and the athletic commission writes the checks. The commission writes the checks to the fighters, and then the fighters pay the managers or their trainers or whoever else they have to pay."

Marloes check was directly from Forza LLC not an athletic commission.

Lies stacking onto lies.
8/5/11 10:56 AM
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People love to bring up Zuffa's fan manufactured "Mob Connections" as a point of why people shouldnt do business with them.

Yes a management/Promotion company whos founder is in prison for double murder is cool?


Reasonate.
8/5/11 10:58 AM
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Yeah they were totally against GG's "mob ties" when they hired Einemo months ago and were negotiating with Alistair years ago.

Clownish explination.
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Chimonos Revenge - People love to bring up Zuffa's fan manufactured "Mob Connections" as a point of why people shouldnt do business with them.

Yes a management/Promotion company whos founder is in prison for double murder is cool?


Reasonate.

 WTF does it have to do with this situation?  Obviously this is not new news, why in the hell throw in a bunch of nonsense about that at the end?

Answer: Because Zuffa runs the UG.
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Chimonos Revenge - People love to bring up Zuffa's fan manufactured "Mob Connections" as a point of why people shouldnt do business with them.

Yes a management/Promotion company whos founder is in prison for double murder is cool?


Reasonate.

 WTF does it have to do with this situation?  Obviously this is not new news, why in the hell throw in a bunch of nonsense about that at the end?

Answer: Because Zuffa runs the UG.


NO reason other than i find people's glaring hypocrisy amusing.
Carry on.
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Chimonos Revenge - People love to bring up Zuffa's fan manufactured "Mob Connections" as a point of why people shouldnt do business with them.

Yes a management/Promotion company whos founder is in prison for double murder is cool?


Reasonate.

 WTF does it have to do with this situation?  Obviously this is not new news, why in the hell throw in a bunch of nonsense about that at the end?

Answer: Because Zuffa runs the UG.

 
yes, it's only relevant when zuffa does bad stuff.  otherwise, shhh about it.
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 and none of you can dispute the fact that in the states managers are under the employ of athletes and money almost always goes to the athlete...i really don't care if the guy was busted for quintuple murder, that's just the way business is done here.
8/5/11 11:05 AM
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UG News didn't mention that Bas Boon has a great rack:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQorXXNhynnOOLiic5p01_KqlkG1QxjNG2Yz0CYfFu2FxRmNVOh

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fiercedragon -  and none of you can dispute the fact that in the states managers are under the employ of athletes and money almost always goes to the athlete...i really don't care if the guy was busted for quintuple murder, that's just the way business is done here.


That's been disputed a million times on here.

And why are you acting like an expert in mma again?
8/5/11 11:06 AM
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Chimonos Revenge - People love to bring up Zuffa's fan manufactured "Mob Connections" as a point of why people shouldnt do business with them.

Yes a management/Promotion company whos founder is in prison for double murder is cool?


Reasonate.

 WTF does it have to do with this situation?  Obviously this is not new news, why in the hell throw in a bunch of nonsense about that at the end?

Answer: Because Zuffa runs the UG.

 
yes, it's only relevant when zuffa does bad stuff.  otherwise, shhh about it.
Please explain how it ties into this story.  At all.

You can't.
 
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Zuffa had no problem with GG 5 months ago when they hired Einemo.

Now the fact that a guy who used to work with GG is in prison is suddenly relavent.

Who wants to guess how many articles mentioned Bas Boon when Einemo got signed?
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And what does Its Showtime, a kickboxing promotion and rival to GG, have to do with anything at all?
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If this is going to prevent a fighter from fighting such as overeem, it is ridiculous. If strikeforce had no problem dealing with GG then why does the UFC have to put its foot down? People want to see overeem fight.
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Chimonos Revenge - People love to bring up Zuffa's fan manufactured "Mob Connections" as a point of why people shouldnt do business with them.

Yes a management/Promotion company whos founder is in prison for double murder is cool?


Reasonate.

 WTF does it have to do with this situation?  Obviously this is not new news, why in the hell throw in a bunch of nonsense about that at the end?

Answer: Because Zuffa runs the UG.

 
yes, it's only relevant when zuffa does bad stuff.  otherwise, shhh about it.
Please explain how it ties into this story.  At all.

You can't.
 


Why does it have to tie into the story?  it never has to when someone wants to slam the UFC.  like i said before, it only matters if UFC is the bad guy.  otherwise, keep it hush cuz it's character assassination.  
8/5/11 11:14 AM
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jbapk - "Before a fight, the money goes into an account for the purses, and the athletic commission writes the checks. The commission writes the checks to the fighters, and then the fighters pay the managers or their trainers or whoever else they have to pay."

Marloes check was directly from Forza LLC not an athletic commission.

Lies stacking onto lies.


In case you missed this from the article,

"As it turns out, White's initial explanation of the process wasn't entirely accurate, even if the premise of the concept was sound. In many states, athletic commissions simply hold the agreed-upon purse checks as proof of the promotion's intent to pay before distributing said checks on fight night. For instance, Illinois – where Coenen fought in July and where the check in question was earned – does not require any sort of escrow deposit, and checks are simply passed on as arranged."

I wouldn't call it a lie. But you can see it how you want.

And why is everyone ignoring this bit,

"Golden Glory trainer Martin de Jong told MMAjunkie.com he was disappointed at the moves, but the team's management has yet to speak on-record. Golden Glory co-founder Bas Boon has promised a statement will be forthcoming shortly. His primary business partner, Ron Nyqvist, remains a silent investor while completing a prison sentence.

White said he welcomes an open-forum discussion, as he insists there is nothing to hide. Change your practices, adhere to clearly defined requirements, and the UFC and Strikeforce are both happy to consider your services."

They haven't said what Dana has said is wrong yet. The only thing to come from the camp at all is the picture of the check, which does indeed verify that Zuffa indeed does only pay the fighters. It does not PROVE GG insists they pay them and they will pay the fighters. It also does not prove they have never have created any problems during events because of this. Hell even Dana has said the check is proof to what he claimed. But again, people can see it how they want to. I for one am waiting to hear what GG has to say. It is very irritating to see people making the comments they have made without hearing what GG has to say.

Also why doesn't anyone from GG show checks from Pre Zuffa owned SF events? I would be curious if Marloes indeed did only get paid 2k (plus 1k bonus for her win) for each of two title bouts when her opponents made 10x that. Even her first title defense (which took place around the time Zuffa purchased SF) her opponent made 2 1/2 times what she made in her challenges for the title, she made 10k with no bonus and her opponent made 5k. Kind of odd don't you think?
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fiercedragon -  and none of you can dispute the fact that in the states managers are under the employ of athletes and money almost always goes to the athlete...i really don't care if the guy was busted for quintuple murder, that's just the way business is done here.


That's been disputed a million times on here.

And why are you acting like an expert in mma again?
probably b/c i actually know fighters,managers,ring announcers, and promoters...maybe if you left your mom's basement you would too...
 
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Chimonos Revenge - People love to bring up Zuffa's fan manufactured "Mob Connections" as a point of why people shouldnt do business with them.

Yes a management/Promotion company whos founder is in prison for double murder is cool?


Reasonate.

 WTF does it have to do with this situation?  Obviously this is not new news, why in the hell throw in a bunch of nonsense about that at the end?

Answer: Because Zuffa runs the UG.

 
yes, it's only relevant when zuffa does bad stuff.  otherwise, shhh about it.
Please explain how it ties into this story.  At all.

You can't.
 
Obviously whoever created the story has a thing against double murders. Unbiased reporting is a myth. Phone Post
Do some background on the rise of the Fertitta empire, should that be tossed into any Zuffa related article for the hell of it?

This was a hack job and done intentionally.
 
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 JJJ - how often do you hear Dana's name, of Zuffa for that matter, and not have someone bring up something bad they did or supposedly did?  almost never happens.  Keep fighting the good fight, though. 
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suess -  JJJ - how often do you hear Dana's name, of Zuffa for that matter, and not have someone bring up something bad they did or supposedly did?  almost never happens.  Keep fighting the good fight, though. 

 This was from the UG News which is run by the owners of this site.  There's your difference homie.
 
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suess -  JJJ - how often do you hear Dana's name, of Zuffa for that matter, and not have someone bring up something bad they did or supposedly did?  almost never happens.  Keep fighting the good fight, though. 

 This was from the UG News which is run by the owners of this site.  There's your difference homie.
 

 
Oh, you mean the UG news that you're constantly going after?  got it. 
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 ^^^

It's a hackjob, completely irrelevant to the story.  If you can't see that, so be it.  Doesn't make me wrong though.

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